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CanucksArmy: Chris, with Alberta rising and California still so strong, can the Canucks keep up in the Pacific Division over the medium-term without rebuilding?

Chris Johnston: I don’t see how they don’t rebuild, to be honest. I know they haven’t gone down that path yet, but it just seems with where their elite players are at, I don’t think they’re going to be able to tread water here.

CA: So do you think this is a reality that might be foisted upon them this season, or do you think they’ll end up on the fringes of the playoff picture this year?

CJ: They might be on the fringes, but then I think the question has to be ‘is that good enough?’ It has kind of been a slow decline (since 2011) and I suspect they have to see some different realities. I think like a lot of teams this decision will be foisted on them at some point. When they’re under-performing they’ll be forced to make some decisions on some of their players, and whether they want to move some of those players or start trending in a different direction. Maybe they’ll be a team that has to have a disappointing season to sort of embrace this reality.

To me they’re just sort of weighted in the wrong direction and I do think ultimately there’s going to have to be some sort of rebuild there, but as far as we can tell it hasn’t started yet.

CA: In discussing the question at some length this summer, Canucks president Trevor Linden has derided the notion of ‘tanking’ as something that’s ‘unrealistic’. Where do you fall on this?

CJ: I think any team that is now thinking about tanking has missed the boat. Certainly with the changes that are being made to the draft lottery, starting next year, it’s going to be a lot more difficult to guarantee yourself a top pick. In Buffalo’s case – and quite clearly that’s an organization that made the decision to tank – to at least get Jack Eichel the ends probably justified the means, especially for their fan base and ownership and I think they’ll yield immediately dividends from doing that. The league is clearly moving towards making this more difficult as an avenue, and I don’t see any teams going down that road now.

CA: Chris, what do you like about the Puck Talks format?

CJ: The best thing about it is that you never really know what’s going to happen. You don’t know what the questions will be, and obviously we involve the audience a lot and that’s made for some funny moments in the ones I’ve been part of so far.

To me what it does is that, pretty much everyone who is a serious hockey fan or who is involved in the industry in some way (whether it’s media or players or whatever) – we all have to deal with Twitter. Twitter has a lot of benefits but some of it is a little bit cynical, even hateful, whereas I find by actually getting together and having these events, you strip away some of that.

You have opportunities for actual discussion from people who come from different backgrounds – whether you get the pro-analytics crowd, or some more traditional reporters, or some former players as part of the panels. To me it allows for more free discussion about hockey. It’s a really authentic experience. It has kind of taken on a life of its own with the ones we’ve done in Toronto and now we’re taking it across the country.

CA: How did you get roped into accompanying Puck Talks on its first cross-Canada tour?

CJ: I guess I’m the first loser or something!

I’m not sure what happened there, actually. I did the second Puck Talks show that they did, and then I did the third and the fourth. It seemed to work well, and I got to meet the owner Kevin Kennedy. I guess he liked what I brought to the format, and he asked if I’d do it and I said yes. That was before I realized it was going on on four nights in four cities, kind of like a touring rock band.

Now that we’re getting close to it I’m getting pretty excited…

CA: What are you most looking forward to about the trip?

CJ: Being yelled at by different people in different cities!

What’s perfect about it to me is that it falls on the first week that training camp opens in each city. I think that for a lot of us we’re just getting beyond the summer cobwebs, but the excitement is going to be back in each of those markets. To be in Edmonton the day that the Oilers break camp with Connor McDavid, I think that there will be an energy in that show in particular. But everywhere we’re going, people will be naturally excited about what’s going on with their hockey team and it’s an opportunity to exchange ideas that evening, and drink some beers together, and celebrate our sport.

CA: What’s your favourite puck talks moment so far?

CJ: My favourite moment is probably Ken Campbell losing his mind in the last show. Ken might have had a few adult beverages before taking the stage, I’m not sure. He actually made some good points, but he made them quite passionately, including one point after which he dropped the mic as if he were some rapper who had made his point sufficiently or something.

That to me is what the whole thing is about. It’s about people who are excited about this thing and there’s room for some healthy debate about various topics, and you really don’t know, even when you put panels together, what side of people’s personality is going to come out when you put them on stage.

That was something that makes me chuckle months later, and at the time it was downright hilarious.