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Why Taking A Forward At #5 Is The Right Move For The Canucks
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Jun 24, 2016, 17:00 EDTUpdated:
*Author’s Note: This article makes extensive use of the Prospect Graduation Probabilties System (pGPS). To learn more about pGPS, you can read our introductory post.
Now that the draft lottery has long passed, and the Canucks are guaranteed to pick fifth overall, all eyes have turned towards the draft, and which player the Canucks will select with their first round pick. 
Ever since the Canucks found themselves in lottery territory, it’s appeared as though Benning has intended to take a forward at that spot. In spite of somewhat contradicting statements in the past, however, Benning indicated yesterday that he believes there is a “clear cut defenseman” that has separated himself from the pack.
While addressing the team’s needs on defence is tempting, selecting a forward at 5 is likely a wise decision. That may seem counter-intuitive, given that based on what we know about prospect graduation, defensemen selected in the first round are more likely to play 200 games in the NHL than their forward counterparts. But one of the limitations of using the 200 game benchmark is that it only tells us what happened, and not why it happened. 
Because defence is a premium position, a defenseman selected in the first round is likely to be given every chance to succeed, and many of those that do manage to reach the 200-game plateau do so based on reputation, or because NHL general managers often overvalue things like size and physicality in defenders. For example, Cam Barker, Jared Cowen, and Luca Sbisa would all be considered successful by pGPS, but you’re unlikely to find someone who’d categorize any of those players as first-round talents. Depending on a team’s draft position, just selecting an NHL player could be considered a success, but since the opportunity to pick in the top 5 doesn’t come along very often, (unless you’re the Edmonton Oilers,) the player the Canucks select at #5 should be held to higher standard of success than just being a warm body at the NHL level.

THE RISK ASSOCIATED WITH SELECTING A DEFENCEMAN

The common refrain when it comes to prospect analysis has always been that defencemen are more difficult to project. Historically, this statement appears to hold some truth. Here’s a list of the top five defencemen selected over the last ten drafts:
Jack Johnson, Brian Lee, Luc Bourdon, Marc Staal, Erik Johnson, Ty Wishart, Mark Mitera, David Fischer, Bobby Sanguinetti, Thomas Hickey, Karl Alzner, Keaton Ellerby, Ryan McDonagh, Kevin Shattenkirk, Drew Doughty, Alex Pietrangelo, Zach Bogosian, Luke Schenn, Tyler Myers, Victor Hedman, Oliver Ekman-Larsson, Jared Cowen, Ryan Ellis, Calvin De Haan, Erik Gudbranson, Dylan McIllrath, Cam Fowler*, Brandon Gormley, Derek Forbort, Adam Larsson, Dougie Hamilton, Jonas Brodin, Duncan Siemens, Ryan Murphy, Ryan Murray (benefit of the doubt?), Griffin Reinhart, Morgan Rielly, Hampus Lindholm, Matthew Dumba, Seth Jones, Darnell Nurse, Rasmus Ristolainen, Samuel Morin, Josh Morrissey, Aaron Ekblad, Haydn Fleury, Julius Honka, Travis Sanheim, Anthony DeAngelo, Noah Hanifin, Ivan Provorov, Zach Werenski, Jakub Zboril, Thomas Chabot. 
For comparison, here are the top 5 forwards from those same ten drafts: 
Sidney Crosby, Bobby Ryan, Gilbert Brule, Jack Skille, Benoit Pouliot, Jordan Staal, Jonathan Toews, Phil Kessel, Nicklas Backstrom, Derick Brassard, Patrick Kane, James Van Riemsdyk, Kyle Turris, Sam Gagner, Jakub Voracek, Steven Stamkos, Nikita Filatov, Colin Wilson, Mikkel Boedker, Josh Bailey, John Tavares, Matt Duchene, Evander Kane, Brayden Schenn, Nazem Kadri, Taylor Hall, Tyler Seguin, Ryan Johansen, Nino Niederreiter, Brett Connolly, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Gabriel Landeskog, Jonathan Huberdeau, Ryan Strome, Mika Zibanejad, Mark Scheifele, Nail Yakupov, Alex Galchenyuk, Filip Forsberg, Mikhail Grigorenko, Radek Faksa, Zemgus Girgensons, Nathan MacKinnon, Aleksander Barkov, Jonathan Drouin, Elias Lindholm, Sean Monahan, Sam Reinhart, Sam Bennett, Leon Draisaitl, Michael Dal Colle, Jake Virtanen, Connor McDavid, Jack Eichel, Dylan Strome, Mitch Marner, Pavel Zacha. 
It only takes a glance to notice that the former is a much less impressive list. The reason for this likely lies in the difference between how top forwards and top defencemen are evaluated. If you’re drafting a forward with a high pick, you’re likely doing so based on how well they’re able to produce offence. The value of a defender, however, is still measured in large part by their ability to suppress offence. As a result, scouts are more likely to rely solely on their observations, which are subject to large amounts of bias and randomness over the course of a relatively small sample size. Because defensive acumen is considered a more important quality in a defenceman than a forward, a team is less likely to veer away from a defender that failed to produce at an elite clip over his draft-eligible season, in spite of the fact that history shows us that this is unwise. 
Quality of Forwards vs. Defencemen available with the fifth pick 
But enough about the past, let’s look at this year’s draft, and the top two forwards that may be available when Jim Benning approaches the podium. The first is Cape Breton Screaming Eagles C/LW Pierre-Luc Dubois. The commonly held belief is that if both Tkachuk and Dubois are available when the Canucks make their pick, they will choose Dubois, not only because he’s played centre, and could make suitable replacement for captain Henrik Sedin in the future, but also because he has the well-rounded two-way game Jim Benning covets. 
 
It’s easy to imagine multiple scenarios where Dubois isn’t be available by the time the Canucks make their pick. The first is that Edmonton sees him as a winger, and Peter Chiarelli believes he can address his club’s needs on the back end via trade. Another is that Edmonton trades that pick to a team that’s looking to select Dubois, who is likely fourth on a number of team’s lists. 
If that’s the case, the Canucks will have a fantastic consolation prize in Matthew Tkachuk. While there are legitimate concerns about whether or not Tkachuk’s offence was inflated by playing with elite OHLers Mitch Marner and Christian Dvorak, he still posses high-end offensive upside and an excellent physical toolkit. 
   
Either player would immediately become the organization’s best prospect the moment they were selected. Both players possess offensive pedigree that hasn’t been seen in a Canucks prospect in some time (Brock Boeser notwithstanding), and each has the potential to be a bona-fide first-line player in the NHL, something every team should be looking to draft. 
When looking at Tkachuk and Dubois through the lens of the prospect Graduation Probabilities System (pGPS), both players appear to be as impressive as their traditional boxcar stats would indicate. Both players have only three statistical matches respectively in the entire system, all of whom went on to play over 200 games in the NHL, for a success rate of 100%. Both players also match statistically with players whose points-per-game output could be generously described as “elite” in today’s NHL (.742 for Tkachuk, and .639 for Dubois.) 
Tkachuk and Dubois are the forwards most likely to be taken in that fifth slot, but there are other players who have worked their way into the conversation, all of whom have very high pGPS rates, including Logan Brown (80%), and Alex Nylander (67.5%), as well as two forwards, Clayton Keller and Tyson Jost, whose seasons were so productive they have no comparables at all.
Availability of Defencemen Later in the Draft 
In contrast, the player many believe will be the first defenceman selected, Olli Juolevi, has a pGPS% of 83.3%, a lower mark than both of Dubois and Tkachuk, and only just slightly north of Logan Brown. 
Sergachyov, Chychrun, and Bean all have success rates north of 70%, but likely still present a greater risk with the fifth pick than either of Tkachuk or Dubois, and even if they do succeed, scouts are torn on their respective upsides. Unlike in previous drafts, the 2016 class is lacking a consensus top defenceman, and it’s arguable whether or not any of Sergachyov, Juolevi, Chychrun, or Bean possess legitimate top-pairing upside. 
If the Canucks want to address their lack of prospect depth at defence, there will likely still be very good players available with the 64th overall pick. JD Burke profiled three defensemen that could be good potential targets in the middle of the draft, and Ryan Biech also took a look at some of the better defensemen from North America and Europe that will be available in the later rounds. 
In all likelihood, there will be a first-round talent defenceman by pGPS available when the canucks pick at 64. If they’re incredibly lucky, perhaps one of Cam Dineen (50%), or Markus Niemelainen ($5.5%), will fall into their lap. If not, one of Chad Krys (33.3%), Adam Fox (50%), Frederic Allard (20%), Dawson Davidson (29.4%) , Dylan Coghlan (23.4%) or Luke Green (22.7%) will most likely be available, any of whom would be fantastic value with the 64th overall pick. If they really want to get fancy, they could also swing for the fences and select Samuel Girard or Sean Day in the hopes that they tap into their high-end upside. 

Where Do Elite Players Come From? 

I thought it might be fun as an exercise to take a look at where today’s high-end players were selected in their respective draft years. I took the top 60 scoring defencemen for the 2015-16 season and placed them in Group A, which could generously be described as “top-pairing defencemen”. Then, I took the top 90 scoring forwards from last season and placed them in Group B, which could generously be described as “first-line forwards”: 
Group A: 
Player
G
A
Pts
Draft Position
Erik Karlsson
16
66
82
1st round, 15th overall
Brent Burns
27
48
75
1st round, 20th overall
Kris Letang
16
51
67
3rd round, 62nd overall
Roman Josi
14
47
61
2nd round, 38th overall
John Klingberg
10
48
58
5th round, 131st overall
Mark Giordano
21
35
56
Undrafted
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
21
34
55
1st round, 6th overall
Dustin Byfuglien
19
34
53
8th round, 245th overall
Drew Doughty
14
37
51
1st round, 2nd overall
Ryan Suter
8
43
51
1st round, 7th overall
Shea Weber
20
31
51
2nd round, 49th overall
P.K. Subban
6
45
51
2nd round, 43rd overall
Tyson Barrie
13
36
49
3rd round, 64th overall
Brent Seabrook
14
35
49
1st round, 14th overall
Keith Yandle
5
42
47
4th round, 105th overall
Victor Hedman
10
37
47
1st round, 2nd overall
Shayne Gostisbehere
17
29
46
3rd round, 78th overall
TJ Brodie
6
39
45
4th round, 114th overall
Torey Krug
4
40
44
Undrafted
Kevin Shattenkirk
14
30
44
1st round, 14th overall
Andrei Markov
5
39
44
6th round, 162nd overall
Dougie Hamilton
12
31
43
1st round, 9th overall
Duncan Keith
9
34
43
2nd round, 54th overall
Rasmus Ristolainen
9
32
41
1st round, 8th overall
Jake Muzzin
8
32
40
5th round, 141st overall
Nick Leddy
5
35
40
1st round, 16th overall
John Carlson
8
31
39
1st round, 27th overall
Marc-Edouard Vlasic
8
31
39
2nd round, 35th overall
Sami Vatanen
9
29
38
4th round, 106th overall
Alex Pietrangelo
7
30
37
1st round, 4th overall
Justin Faulk
16
21
37
2nd round, 37th overall
Zdeno Chara
9
28
37
2nd round, 56th overall
Alex Goligoski
5
32
37
3rd round, 61st overall
Michael Stone
6
30
36
3rd round, 69th overall
Aaron Ekblad
15
21
36
1st round, 1st overall
Morgan Rielly
9
27
36
1st round, 5th overall
Mattias Ekholm
8
27
35
4th round, 102nd overall
Mike Green
7
28
35
1st round, 29th overall
Ryan McDonagh
9
25
34
1st round, 12th overall
Francois Beauchemin
8
26
34
3rd round, 75th overall
Anton Stralman
9
25
34
7th round, 216th overall
Colton Parayko
9
24
33
3rd round, 86th overall
Matt Niskanen
5
27
32
1st round, 28th overall
Ryan Ellis
10
22
32
1st round, 11th overall
Dion Phaneuf
4
28
32
1st round, 9th overall
Jake Gardiner
7
24
31
1st round, 17th overall
Brian Campbell
6
25
31
6th round, 156th overall
Alec Martinez
10 
21
31
4th round, 95th overall
Seth Jones
3
28
31
1st round, 4th overall
Andrej Sekera
6
24
30
3rd round, 71st overall
Jared Spurgeon
11
18
29
6th round, 156th overall
Dmitry Orlov
8
21
29
2nd round, 55th overall
Trevor Daley
6
22
28
2nd round, 43rd overall
Hampus Lindholm
10
18
28
1st round, 6th overall
Cam Fowler
5
23
28
1st round, 12th overall
Erik Johnson
11
16
27
1st round, 1st overall
Tyler Myers
9
18
27
1st round, 12th overall
Kevin Klein
9
17
26
2nd round, 37th overall
Codi Ceci
10
16
26
1st round, 15th overall
Matt Dumba
10
16
26
1st round, 7th overall
Niklas Kronwall
3
23
26
1st round, 29th overall
28 first round picks 
Percentage of players that were first-round picks: 46%
14 top 10 picks
Percentage of players that were top 10 picks: 23%
Group B:  
Player
G
A
Pts
Draft Position
Patrick Kane
46
60
106
1st round, 1st overall
Jamie Benn
41
48
89
5th round, 129th overall
Sidney Crosby
36
49
85
1st round, 1st overall
Joe Thornton
19
63
82
1st round, 1st overall
Johnny Gaudreau
30
48
78
4th round, 104th overall
Joe Pavelski
38
40
78
7th round, 205th overall
Blake Wheeler
26
52
78
1st round, 5th overall
Artemi Panarin
30
47
77
Undrafted
Evgeny Kuznetsov
20
57
77
1st round, 26th overall
Vladimir Tarasenko
40
34
74
1st round, 16th overall
Anze Kopitar
25
49
74
1st round, 9th overall
Tyler Seguin
33
40
73
1st round, 2nd overall
Alex Ovechkin
50
21
71
1st round, 1st overall
John Tavares
33
37
70
1st round, 1st overall
Nicklas Backstrom
20
50
70
1st round, 4th overall
Patrice Bergeron
32
36
68
2nd round, 45th overall
Claude Giroux
22
45
67
1st round, 22nd overall
Nikita Kucherov
30
36
66
2nd round, 58th overall
Jaromir Jagr
27
39
66
1st round, 5th overall
Taylor Hall
26
39
65
1st round, 1st overall
Filip Forsberg
33
31
64
1st round, 11th overall
Steven Stamkos
36
28
64
1st round, 1st overall
Max Pacioretty
30
34
64
1st round, 22nd overall
Kyle Okposo
22
42
64
1st round, 7th overall
Ryan Getzlaf
13
50
63
1st round, 19th overall
Sean Monahan
27
36
63
1st round, 6th overall
Loui Eriksson
30
33
63
2nd round, 33rd overall
Jason Spezza
33
30
63
1st round, 22nd overall
David Krejci
17
46
63
3rd round, 63rd overall
Corey Perry
34
28
62
1st round, 28th overall
Jeff Carter
24
38
62
1st round, 11th overall
Mark Stone
23
38
61
6th round, 178th overall
Brad Marchand
37
24
61
3rd round, 71st overall
Mark Scheifele
29
32
61
1st round, 7th overall
Mats Zuccarello
26
35
61
Undrafted
Daniel Sedin
28
33
61
1st round, 2nd overall
Ryan Johansen
14
46
60
1st round, 4th overall
Wayne Simmonds
32
28
60
3rd round, 61st overall
Jussi Jokinen
18
42
60
6th round, 192nd overall
Ryan O’Reilly
21
39
60
2nd round, 33rd overall
Brayden Schenn
26
33
59
1st round, 5th overall
Jonathan Huberdeau
20
39
59
1st round, 3rd overall
Matt Duchene
30
29
59
1st round, 3rd overall
Aleksander Barkov
28
31
59
1st round, 2nd overall
Mike Hoffman
29
30
59
5th round, 130th overall
Phil Kessel
26
33
59
1st round, 5th overall
Tyler Toffoli
31
27
58
2nd round, 47th overall
Derick Brassard
27
31
58
1st round, 6th overall
Evgeni Malkin
27
31
58
1st round, 2nd overall
Jonathan Toews
28
30
58
1st round, 3rd overall
James Neal
31
27
58
2nd round, 33rd overall
Kyle Palmieri
30
27
57
1st round, 26th overall
Bobby Ryan
22
34
56
1st round, 2nd overall
Jack Eichel
24
32
56
1st round, 2nd overall
Alex Galchenyuk
30
26
56
1st round, 3rd overall
Mikko Koivu
17
39
56
1st round, 6th overall
Henrik Sedin
11
44
55
1st round, 3rd overall
Jakub Voracek
11
44
55
1st round, 7th overall
Milan Lucic
20
35
55
2nd round, 50th overall
Patrick Sharp
20
35
55
4th round, 95th overall
Tomas Plekanec
14
40
54
3rd round, 71st overall
Cam Atkinson
27
26
53
6th round, 157th overall
Gabriel Landeskog
20
33
53
1st round, 2nd overall
Ryan Kesler
21
32
53
1st round, 23rd overall
Brandon Saad
31
22
53
2nd round, 43rd overall
Zach Parise
25
28
53
1st round, 17th overall
Derek Stepan
22
31
53
2nd round, 51st overall
Vincent Trocheck
25
28
53
3rd round, 64th overall
Justin Williams
22
30
52
1st round, 28th overall
Nathan MacKinnon
21
31
52
1st round, 1st overall
Alexander Steen
17
35
52
1st round, 24th overall
Max Domi
18
34
52
1st round, 12th overall
Frans Nielsen
20
32
52
3rd round, 87th overall
Lee Stempniak
19
32
51
4th round, 148th overall
Leon Draisaitl
19
32
51
1st round, 3rd overall
Jeff Skinner
28
23
51
1st round, 7th overall
T.J. Oshie
26
25
51
1st round, 24th overall
Patric Hornqvist
22
29
51
7th round, 230th overall
Mika Zibanejad
21
30
51
1st round, 6th overall
Mikkel Boedker
17
34
51
1st round, 8th overall
Carl Soderberg
12
39
51
Undrafted
Reilly Smith
25
25
50
3rd round, 69th overall
Adam Henrique
30
20
50
3rd round, 82nd overall
Henrik Zetterberg
13
37
50
7th round, 210th overall
Mike Ribeiro
7
43
50
2nd round, 45th overall
Ryan Spooner
13
36
49
2nd round, 45th overall
Boone Jenner
30
19
49
2nd round, 37th overall
Scott Hartnell
23
26
49
1st round, 6th overall
Pavel Datsyuk
16
33
49
6th round, 171st overall
Paul Stastny
10
39
49
2nd round, 44th overall
54 first round picks 
Percentage or players that were first round picks: 60%  
36 top 10 picks 
Percentage of players that were top 10 picks: 40%
There are some obvious flaws to this methodology. These lists are biased towards offense, something that a defenseman doesn’t necessarily have to bring to the table to play on a top pairing. That being said, the lowest player in group A, Niklas Kronwall, only had to manage 26 points to make the cut, so it’s not like any of these players had to blow the roof off with their offensive production. Overall, most of the league’s good defenders are on this list, even if some are ranked lower than they to ought be. 
Sixty percent of the players in Group B (forwards) were drafted in the first round, and forty percent were top 10 picks. In contrast, the players in group A (defencemen) were comprised of only 46% first round picks, and 23% in the top ten.
This is admittedly fairly soft analysis, but I think we can tentatively draw the conclusion that defencemen are more difficult to project, and that their NHL success is more influenced by random chance. With this in mind, a slight positional bias towards forwards is entirely defensible at the top of the draft. If you have a forward and a defenceman that you believe are of a similar talent level, history suggests the forward may be a safer bet. Because defencemen are more difficult to project, I would advocate a quantity approach to drafting defencemen in the later rounds, in the hopes that you hit on a John Klingberg or a Dustin Byfuglien. 

PROSPECT DEPTH 

In Vancouver’s case, prospect depth at forward is often cited as a reason to look at defencemen at the fifth slot. In reality, I’d argue that depth is a bit of a mirage. After Brock Boeser, the team is lacking clear future top-six forwards. Baertschi, Horvat, and Virtanen all have that potential, but are far from locks. There’s also the fact that with McCann and Shinkaruk having recently been shipped off, that offensive prospect depth has been somewhat eroded over the past few months. 
Even if prospect depth at forward is an area of relative strength for the Canucks, it’s not anywhere near the level where it’s acceptable to begin drafting for position, especially if their scouts believe that one of the forwards is truly the best player available at fifth overall.

CONCLUSION: 

In essence, this has just been a very long-winded way of saying “take the best player available”, but with two caveats: One, that forwards are generally a safer bet, especially near the top of the draft, and two, that the spread in quality among draft-eligible defencemen is more difficult to measure than it is for forwards. 
This is a market inefficiency that the Canucks would be wise to exploit, and with more and more teams beginning to employ statistical draft models, it’s not one that’s going to exist forever. If the team gets a little clever and creative, they can have their cake and eat it too by drafting a forward in the first round, and addressing their lack of prospect depth at defense in the later rounds. 
At the end of the day, this should be a tap-in. Take one of Pierre-Luc Dubois or Matthew Tkachuk and move on.