What would a package for Sam Reinhart look like and do the pieces the Canucks have make sense to trade for him?
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CanucksArmy Monday Mailbag: December 4th – Part Deux
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By J.D. Burke
Dec 5, 2017, 13:00 ESTUpdated: Dec 4, 2017, 23:01 EST
I seem to recall Sportsnet’s Elliotte Friedman suggesting that everyone on the Buffalo Sabres is available in a trade, short of Jack Eichel, but he added that for a player like Sam Reinhart that the price would be steep. That makes sense given Reinhart’s pedigree as a top-three draft pick and his history of turning in about 40 points a season in each of the two seasons that preceded this one.
If you asked me a week or two ago, I might’ve thought that the discussion would start with Ben Hutton. Now, I’m not even sure if he’s enough as a centrepiece. That’s probably where I would try to start the discussion if I’m the Canucks, and then try to supplement Hutton with quality trade chips (a mid-round pick or a B-grade prospect).
If the Canucks can get Reinhart for a Hutton and Jonah Gadjovich, perhaps that’s something worth exploring? I’m not entirely certain if I’d hit send on that trade offer if I were in the Canucks shoes, but it seems reasonable.
Assuming Pettersson makes the Canucks next season, what would be a realistic level of production for him?
Honestly, if Elias Pettersson is in the NHL next season and adds about 30 points, that would be an awesome development for the Canucks. It seems like a low number, but I’m just trying to be realistic and fair to the kid.
You know, it’s kind of funny — I can’t find an article that shows any thorough research on this subject. I’ll add, though, that I do believe in the hierarchy of forward positions that places a premium on centres.
I would target Florida Panthers general manager Dale Tallon, and I would do it as soon as possible. Think about it, the closer the Panthers get to the trade deadline and the farther they fall from the playoff race, the less likely it is they see a need to trade for Gudbranson who’s going to hit unrestricted free agency in the summer.
Coaches don’t think that way. I’d bet it’s as simple as Canucks head coach Travis Green trying to spread the offence around evenly.
On a side note, thank you for all the mailbags you do. I’m sure it’s a lot, so thank you. To the question do you have any good stories about this management team that you could tell us about such as possible trades that could have happened or conspiracies ?
On a side note of my own, thank you for your kind words. I really do appreciate it.
I’ve heard a lot of stuff about trades the Canucks could or could not have made at trade deadlines and in the off-season. Some of them I believe; others, less so.
Whatever the case, I’m not a conspiracy theories person. And I respect the relationships that made the information on some of the stories about Canucks trades that did or didn’t happen available enough to not betray their trust by putting them on blast. I also wouldn’t want to put out rumours or speculation that I can or cannot confirm.
HNIC reported that cap could be $80 million next year. IF Sedins retire, how much $ will nucks have to spend & how will they spend it?
If the Sedins retire and the salary cap rises to $80-million for next season, that will give the Canucks about $35-million to work with based on their current figures. With that said, the Canucks have a lot of restricted and unrestricted free agents in their ranks. Erik Gudbranson, Troy Stecher, Derrick Pouliot, Alex Biega, Jake Virtanen, Sven Baertschi, Markus Granlund, Thomas Vanek, etc. all need a new contract for next season.
I would hope that the Canucks use that cap space to take on cad contracts for a bevy of futures and the like. Make a couple of rebuild esque moves, like the way the Carolina Hurricanes took Bryan Bickell’s contract off the Chicago Blackhawks hands for Teuvo Teravainen — that kind of thing.
The Canucks are still fairly early in their rebuild, and the prospect is nowhere near the level where they can stop amassing young talent at every turn. That’s a tough thing to do in free agency. In fact, it often has negative long-term ramifications on the rebuild. Loui Eriksson, I’m looking right at your contract.
I think it’s possible that the Canucks keep Thomas Vanek for next season. It’s probably not possible under those specific circumstances that you’ve cited.
The Canucks’ prospect pool is as good as it’s been in decades, but I’d caution against getting too carried away in your excitement. A lot can go wrong with prospects, which is why we preach a volume-based approach at CanucksArmy. If everything goes well, the Canucks can turn the corner with this group of prospects. But that’s asking a lot.
By all accounts, Olli Juolevi has been playing great hockey with TPS Turku in the Finnish Liiga. I’m optimistic about his trajectory.
We had Adam Gaudette on Nation Network Radio, and everything he said suggests he’s eager to join the Canucks. I’d say there’s a 75% chance he does just that.
I have no clue.
Coward.
If the Canucks want to go in a new direction at general manager, I wouldn’t be surprised if they went hyper-modern. It might not mean they go out and find a way to bring Toronto Maple Leafs assistant general manager Kyle Dubas into the fold, but perhaps they look to find someone of that ilk.
Which Canucks prospect, outside of Pettersson, has the upside in your mind?
Adam Gaudette.
Depending on where the Canucks and Sven Baertschi go with their contract negotiations, it’s entirely possible he leaves the team in unrestricted free agency, based on that timeline. Either way, I don’t think he’ll be forced out by virtue of other offensively gifted players getting into the lineup. You can never have too much skill.
If you were in charge, what kind of contract would you offer to Sven Baertschi at the end of the year? On the other hand, what do you think he'll get?
I’m writing an article on this very subject, so I won’t give that away! However, I could see a scenario where the Canucks give him about $4-million.
Do you see boeser shooting percentage ending up for this year and his career more in the 13%-14% range or more in the 15%-17% range like Laine.
I lean more towards Patrik Laine’s average range than I do the 13-14% range.
At this stage, I think Sam Bennett has about second-line upside. And if I were in the Canucks shoes, I would make a trade for Bennett with Jake Virtanen without a moment’s hesitation.
Where would you rank Pouliot in the #canucks D depth chart? If he develops to his potential, what should we expect to see in a few years?
I’d say Derrick Pouliot is fifth on the Canucks defensive depth chart right now. And he’ll likely stay in that range in a few years. He’s not that young.
Is BB better defensively than Bo
It’s hard to say, but I lean towards no.
I’m going to go with 45 points for Eriksson.
Seems likely the canucks will have to move at least one young winger over the next 1-2 yrs. Who makes sense? If its Baertschi, should we move him this year while he has a 1st line stat line? What should we target in return?
It’s possible that the Canucks have to make a move with one of their wingers, but not a foregone conclusion. I’m amenable to the option that the Canucks ship out Baertschi while he’s rocking an inflated stat line, though. Admittedly, I am not sure what they would get for him in return. There’s a lot at play there.
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