What made GMJB give a 1st Rd pick in the Miller deal? Reports say Leafs wanted to include a 2nd in the Marleau deal, Carolina held fast on a 1st and got it. So this poses the ? Wtf JB?
— Alan MacDonald (@alanmac_d) June 23, 2019
I’m as perplexed as you are. The Canucks should have been in on Marleau, but I’m still completely unconvinced that Jim Benning grasps the concept of weaponizing cap space and I think at this point he’s basically all-in to make the playoffs next year because he knows he’s out of a job if he doesn’t. It makes sense when you look at it from that perspective. If the goal is to save your own hide in the short-term rather than to build for long-term success, trading for JT Miller is an understandable move.
For the price they paid for Miller the Canucks could have made an offer sheet between $4,227,438 – $6,341,152 according to @CapFriendly. Who would be a worthy RFA at that price?
— Lou Slips (@louslips) June 24, 2019
To be honest, I don’t think the Canucks are in a position to be giving up first round picks except in very special circumstances; but had they chosen to go down that route, Jakub Vrana, Kevin Fiala, Travis Konecny, and Kasperi Kapanen would have probably been the best targets.
Assuming contracts are identical, which one is the better fit for the Canucks, Gardiner or Myers and why. I ask because it seems inevitable that we're getting one or the other.
— Reeves (@zReeves9) June 23, 2019
Gardiner is the better fit because he’s the better player, full stop. He’s also less likely to break down over the course of his contract. Judging by Myers’ size and play style, he’s probably 2-3 years away from completely cratering. I don’t trust any defenseman to make it through a contract that carries them until they’re 35, but Gardiner probably at least gives you an extra year or two of utility, and the decline won’t be as steep. Both players will be looking for long-term deals, so my preference would be neither player, but if I have to pick one it’s Gardiner every day of the week.
Two questions: Does drafting Podkolzin make a Tryamkin return more likely (another fellow Russian on the team) and; what was your overall impression of the draft haul from all rounds?
— HmansOwn (@greenschoolbus) June 24, 2019
I have to be honest, I’m pretty unconvinced that Russian teammates play a big factor in convincing players to come over. It’s more about where the player is going to get a better deal. That’s why the superstar Russian players almost always stay in America and the mid-tier players go back home.
If the number of Russian players was really the deciding factor for these guys, none of them would ever come over. You’re not going to beat Russia when it comes to having Russians. Besides, who’s to say Podkolzin and Tryamkin know anything about one another, or that they’d like each other even if they did? Maybe Vasili vapes on the team bus all the time. Then having him on the team would make him less likely to come over. I doubt it makes even the slightest bit of difference.
As for the second question, I thought the Canucks did about as well as they normally have under Jim Benning. Their first two picks were both great value, then things got more hit-or-miss in the mid-to-late rounds. They probably got an impact player in Podkolzin, and might get another middle-of-the-roster player in Hoglander. After that, it’s a crapshoot; but it always is, and the Canucks certainly didn’t to any worse than most teams do. Keppen, Malone, and Plasek look like decent selections even if there were arguably some more interesting options on the board.
Spooner, Goldobin, Eriksson, Schaller & Motte, Leivo will all fight for regular roster spot come training camp. What will happen to the others?? Assuming 1 will b healthy scratch, think JB will try to deal away others for picks?
— GDD (@GoodsDave) June 23, 2019
All signs point to the team moving on from Loui Eriksson one way or another, so I don’t think he factors in to the question. It sounds like there’s a real chance Spooner could get bought out and he’s already cleared waivers so I wouldn’t be surprised if he ends up being a non-factor, too. Schaller spent most of last season in the press box and seems poised to take on the role of designated 13th forward again next season. Assuming your premise is correct, (there are issues with it, but it’s plausible) that leaves Goldobin, Motte, and Leivo to fight over that last spot. In this scenario, I would imagine they’d swap out Levio and Motte depending on the makeup of their opponent, and try to find a landing spot for Goldobin. My gut tells me there’s going to be a lot of movement between now and the fall, so I wouldn’t put too much stock in any projected lineups this early in the game.
Please excuse me looking at this in an overly simplistic manner but JT Miller and Tanner Pesrson are same age, roughly same size, roughly same historical production. So what does Miller bring us that we didn't already have?
— Mark Harrop (@mharrop71) June 24, 2019
I don’t think it’s an unreasonable question. On paper, there are a lot of similarities between the two players; but Miller has historically been more productive offensively and more consistent. The Canucks desperately need more offense and even if each player brings a similar profile, they’ll appreciate the 45-50 points Miller has usually potted per season regardless of how he gets them. I’ll leave it up to you to decide whether or not that’s worth a first-round pick, but in a vacuum I don’t think there’s anything wrong with the Canucks adding Miller.
All the Noox need to do to render the Miller trade criticism irrelevant is make the playoffs once in the next two year. Need to be better than 4 teams in the pacific. So…. are the Noox better than the Kings, the Doox, the Yotes and the cOilers?
— Ten Zowie (@TenZowie) June 24, 2019
Before I get to the heart of question I should clarify that this season, being better than four teams in the Pacific would not have been enough to make the playoffs. The wild card system allows for 5 teams from one division to make the playoffs in a given year, and I’d expect the Central is good enough for it to happen again next year and possibly the year after, too.
As far as the Pacific goes, I think the Canucks are probably better than Anaheim and L.A., but all bets are off after that. The Yotes took a step forward this year and surprised a lot of people and the Oilers may be the Oilers, but they were still in the playoffs more recently than the Canucks and they have the best player in the game on their roster.
What do you think about the reactions, especially on Twitter, of Canucks fans to the trade for Miller? Fair, or lynch mob mentality?
— Barry Luka (@BarryLuka) June 23, 2019
There is a chance, albeit a small one, that the Canucks gave away a lottery pick in 2021 in this trade. That’s a bad bet to make, and there just isn’t another way to put it. It’s an unnecessary risk and they deserve to be criticized for it.
How disastrous will a Tyler Myers FA signing be on this team ?
— Kelly (@KtlieverseKelly) June 23, 2019
I’m gonna let our dear, departed friend answer this one for me.