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WWYDW: Pre-Draft Edition

It’s the day before the draft, which means there’s just one question on everyone’s mind: Who should the Canucks select at 10th overall?

Last week I asked: Is there anyone that should be available in rounds 2-7 that you would like the Canucks to select?

Me:

If Honka’s still there in round 2 and I were GM, I’d be tempted to pick him.

I know there’s a reasonable chance he’ll be a bust, but the upside is potentially he’s a star who can play a similar role to Hughes (though perhaps with more liability in his own end). Having two guys like that on a team is nothing to sneeze at.

Jabs:

After picking the a talented forward in the first round, I would be looking for players who may have dropped as a result of over zealous GM’s getting gitty about another player they liked better leaving some great talent for the Canucks to gleam. Hopefully that would include a guy like Vlaic or any of the 2 RHD’s from the defenseman factory in Kelowna.

Hard to say what to do after that, since the ‘Nucks have a plethora of 6th rounders, for sure take another goalie prospect because you can never have enough goalies.

Also, it the late rounds hopefully Linus Karlsson’s little bro reruncould be looked at, he had some decent showings later in the season and may have some talent because you can never have enough brothers.

Sandpaper:

Grewe or Legare in the 2nd.
a few other players they should be taking a look at, Cade Webber, Case McCarthy, Montana Onyebuchi, Layton Ahac and another goalie.

j2daff:

Lassi Thomson in round two if he is there and hoping there is a chance that Honka drops to round 3, would be a great gamble in the 3rd round and there have been ranking with him dropping that low.

There are also a number of other players that could be great picks at 40 if they fall out of the 1st round.

Ken Priestlay Fan:

After the top 12 or so, this draft looks like such a crap shoot that pretty much anyone could still be available at 40. Holstrom and Puistola look good value to me (if they’re there), but assuming the Canucks take a forward at 10 (Newhook or Boldy please) I can’t imagine them not picking a D in either r2 or r3. Who is the question; someone like Korczac looks a safe bet to be an NHL player, put probably has a low ceiling. Honka has a high ceiling but probably busts. There don’t seem to be easy answers.

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    • Depends who is on the board at 10. If someone who you have rated in the top 7 you take them. If theres 3 or 4 players you like left and they are fairly equal then trade back.

      Maybe something like 10 and Hutton to Montreal for 15, 2nd rounder and Josh brook.

      Then draft seider or soderstrom as one should be there. If not take a forward.

    • I agree with you here except I would add prioritization as follows: Cozens, Dach, Zegras, Boldy, Krebs, Caufield. I wouldn’t trade back if Cozens or Dach falls to #10 but if we did trade back, it’s only 1-3 spots for at least a high 2nd round pick this year and then I’m looking at: Soderstrom, Newhook, or Seider.

  • This is a tough one, because it’s hard to predict who will be available after 1 and 2. Here is my list of preferences, based on who MIGHT be available

    1. Podkolzin
    2. Cozens
    3. Dach
    4. Krebs
    5. Caufield
    6. Zegras
    7. Boldy
    8. Soderstrom

    I do think they should take a forward in the first round, as there does seem to be some separation between them and Soderstrom. The Canucks also need goals badly, and they can hopefully pick someone like Thomson, Korczak or Honka in the second round.

  • I’m gonna offer up my draft predictions.
    #1 Hughes;
    #2 Kakko;
    #3 and #4 (either order) Bryam/Turcotte;
    #5 and #6 (either order) Dach/Cozens;
    #7 and #8 (either order) Boldy/Newhook;
    #9, #10, and #11 (any order) Zegras/Caulfield/Krebs;
    #12, #13 and #14 (any order) Podkolzin/Seider/Soderstrom.
    Guess we’ll all see soon.

    • I agree with the exception of Caulfield and Podkolzin. They are talented and ‘have’ potential but I feel they lack the intangibles to use a #10 pick on them. Cant swing for the fence with your first pick, it needs to be a real solid player with a very high probability of being an NHLer.

      • Not to say these are the right picks but this comment about ‘intangibles’ just shows sheer ignorance ..or shall we just call it what is: Russian bias and size bias.

        For example, Podkolzin has been dubbed one of the hardest working players in the draft:

        “What makes him appealing as a top prospect is his great talent combined with elite on-ice work ethic and physicality. Podkolzin is a physical force, who will quickly become a fan favorite and become despised by rival fans.” – The Athletic

        I guarantee Mr. “Watch the game” Locust has never seen either of these guys play.

        • Is there a reason you need to insult as well. You actually make a point worth debating but state it in such a way that the debate can only go south. It’s too bad really.

        • Dirk22, he has been reported as selfish on ice too, though, this the reported reason for his low stats. “Cant’ use teammates effectively”.

          Guys like that are frustrating, because they only have to think differently, then they can be a star as they already have all the skills and size to succeed.

  • Swap the #10 pick, Goldobin, Lind and the Canuck’s third round pick for the Wild’s #12 pick and Zucker. Then swap the #12 pick and Madden for Las Vegas’ #17 pick, the Clarkson contract and Colin Miller. With the #17 pick select one of Soderstrom, Broberg, Seider or York.

  • Assuming the first four picks are Hughes, Kakko, Byram, Turcotte, then I would take the top remaining player in this order:
    Zegras
    Krebs
    Podkolzin
    Dach
    Boldy
    Seider

  • 1- Krebs; High quality center. Can`t go wrong picking him.

    2- Seider; Large RHD. Starts in Utica, Canuck by Christmas, Regular shifts by March.

    3- Boldy; Goal scoring LW, just what Pettersson needs.

  • Keep the #10 pick for BPA but be willing to sell high from current roster for another pick from 8-19, someone in that range can be convinced to make a deal for established veterans to help with their playoff push.

    To embrace the grind of a rebuild means that you have to do it properly, and the best way is to acquire core pieces by packaging existing players of value that won’t be here when the team turns a corner. It would be very optimistic to turn what is essentially spare parts into high draft picks but there is enough opportunity there for some progress.

    See how serious Edmonton is about cap relief and see what they need to get 8th overall off their hands. Anything short of a key core prospect or a draft pick should be seriously considered. Also see how serious Vegas is about their cap room and see what #17 would cost with the same considerations. Both teams need to win now much more than they need prospects, there’s a deal there with enough of a salary dump or retention.

    Philadelphia has had the best prospect pool for years and the last thing they need is another draft pick, see what they’ll need for a playoff push next year and do everything you reasonably can to make that trade for another pick. If you can walk off the floor tomorrow with a skilled forward at 10 and one of the top RHDs at 11 then you’ve pretty much won the day.

  • Depends who is on the board at 10. If someone who you have rated in the top 7 you take them. If theres 3 or 4 players you like left and they are fairly equal then trade back.

    Maybe something like 10 and Hutton to Montreal for 15, 2nd rounder and Josh brook.

  • BPA

    of the players with a good chance to be there at 10 Boldy would be the best. I doubt Cozens or Dach drop that low but if the do I’d have to consider them as well. The top 2 are set, Turcotte and Byram shouldn’t drop any further than 6. Hopefully Zegras and any dman (other that Byram) that the canucks are considering are gone by ten as well. Podz is an intriguing option but I don’t think JB would go that route. I’d be willing to settle for Krebs/Caufield if Boldy, Cozens and Dach are all gone.

  • So tough to answer this considering we don’t know who’s available at 10. Also, I’m not going to pretend I have a great book on any of these prospects so I’m going off of what little I’ve seen and some articles

    I think Zegras is a great fit. Both Petterson and Boeser are great shooters. Horvat is more of shot first center than a playmaker. It makes sense to look at a highly skilled playmaking winger. Zergras seems to fit that description

    I really like Boldy. Seems to do everything at a high level but his skating is nothing special. From everything I’ve seen he has a really high floor.

    Cozens size and skating really stand out to me. I think Canucks fans are a bit shell shocked with JV going at 6 but his hockey IQ isn’t comparable to Cozens IMO. I think one of those 3 will be available and that’s who I would take

    Also I think Benning should go hard at a team like LVK at 17th who has cap issues. Try to package the Canucks 40th and whatever pieces it takes to make it happen. Maybe 40th + 2020 pick + a comet for 17th and Clarkson

    I think at 17th one of the following would be available. These players could really accelerate a rebuild. Seider, Harley, Soderstrom, Broberg, or York. Possibly take Kaliyev in that spot also. Having a deep pool is important but these are the kind of players that can crack a line up in a year or 2. The Canucks need to swing for another first rounder IMO

  • Oh and just curious of peoples opinions here (including CA staff)

    Would you trade Boeser to COL for the 4th and 16th? I’m talking from a value standpoint. I think it would be career suicide to alienate the fan base and take such a big risk.

        • Yes if Byram is still there which I think he will, I really think chicago’s gonna take Turcotte… But man imagine having Byram and seider in the pipes. Of course you’d have to chase a real high end winger though if you lose boeser…feels kind of like tacking a step backwards to take a step forward though all in all…

    • Let’s see…..you want to break my heart today with the promise of eternal love a little later…..I probably gulp and do that, there is a high probability that, while delayed, the number 4 alone is a player of equal caliber to Brock. That means 16 in a pretty solid draft could be house money. I’d damn well think long and hard about it, you wouldn’t hear an immediate click at the other end of the phone, that’s for sure.

    • Yes if Byram is still there which I think he will, I really think chicago’s gonna take Turcotte… But man imagine having Byram and seider in the pipes. Of course you’d have to chase a real high end winger though if you lose boeser…feels kind of like tacking a step backwards to take a step forward though all in all…

    • Are they keeping #10 OA as well?
      If yes and Byram was there then I think I would do that. Byram, Cozens/Boldy/Krebs, Sieder or… would be a heck of a haul.

  • All the potential top picks 1 to 15 look pretty good but don’t personally know enough to say X player is better than Y player ad infinitum. Caulfield’s size sort of scares me but not his skill. Let Benning hold fast to the BPA concept and most hopefully a big forward. Lots of decent Ds should be available in the 2nd round.