Marchessault… what would the Canucks have to give up to get him, from LV or FLA?
— Canucks/Jays (@CanucksJays) June 18, 2017
Don’t get me wrong — I really like Jonathan Marchessault’s game. The Canucks really missed the boat letting him pass while they signed players like Borna Rendulic, Jack Skille, Michael Chaput, etc. to painfully similar contracts. And I think we’re at a point where that ship has sailed.
I have a hard time believing that the Florida Panthers want to part with Marchessault, so much as they want to leave their defence corps intact. If they keep him beyond the Expansion Draft (not terribly likely), I’m sure they’ll be all too happy to have him next season. If the Vegas Golden Knights get Marchessault, I’m sure they’ll keep him around. If not, the price for a player that productive on so cheap a contract as Marchessault’s would come at an exorbitant cost — he should, anyways.
Marchessault isn’t too old to help the Canucks by the time they’re competitive again; I just fear the cost of futures to make a deal of this ilk happen won’t merit the return they get on Marchessault when they’re at that point in their arch.
— Adam Laskaris (@adam_laskaris) June 18, 2017
- Anaheim Ducks
- Detroit Red Wings
- Florida Panthers
- Los Angeles Kings
- Minnesota Wild
- Nashville Predators
- New York Islanders
- Ottawa Senators
- San Jose Sharks
Might not be a question, but a thought. VGK will be stockpiling draft picks. You think they would be interested in Tanev/Edler?
— Ryan Little (@rLittle67) June 18, 2017
I can’t see Vegas having any interest in either given the bounty of top four defencemen available to them for free through the Expansion Draft. They’ll probably have one of the better defence groups in the league already. They don’t need to add through trades, etc.
Do you think the habs would want/need Hutton and what else would be needed to bring Galchenyuk to VAN?
— Eknoor Singh (@eknoor17kesler) June 18, 2017
I don’t mean to be rude, but I don’t think you’ve even set the framework for this kind of trade. The Montreal Canadiens just dealt Nathan Beaulieu to the Buffalo Sabres for a third round pick, and at best, I have to imagine they view Ben Hutton as a slightly lesser version of Beaulieu. Canadiens general manager Marc Bergevin is fascinating, insofar as he can make the best and worst trades just days apart. This is a stretch even for Bergevin on his worst days, though.
Can you explain game theory and the practical use of it for the Canucks.
— mike higashi (@hirokidude) June 18, 2017
My interpretation of game theory and how I might use a practical hockey related scenario to explain it is this:
Imagine a team on the draft floor. They know way ahead of time that Jamie Benn is going to be one of the best players in his draft class; they also understand he’s going to fall to somewhere in the fifth-round. The goal, then, isn’t to take Benn with a top ten pick. What you want to do in this scenario is use the latest pick possible to secure Benn. It’s not about getting the best player; it’s about getting as many of the best players possible.
What should I do in Chicago this week?
— Josh Weissbock (@joshweissbock) June 18, 2017
You should learn how to MUFB.
is it a guarantee that LV takes Fluery? does that increase the chances of a deal with Dal for 3oa/Niemi for Tanev?
— JASON BOTHE (@RENEERENEE1) June 18, 2017
Everyone I’d consider a hockey insider has said it’s all but official. That was before the Detroit Red Wings made the whackiest move of the day and exposed Petr Mrazek. I still think Marc-Andre Fleury is going to finish the Expansion Draft as a Golden Knight; I’m just less certain he stays there for long.
How many first Rd picks do you see Vegas ending up with in 2017? How many players do they select and flip to other teams?
— Raj Grewal (@Roach99) June 18, 2017
At this rate, I’m going to set the over/under on first round picks the Golden Knights acquire by the draft at four. They need to hit the cap floor, and there are many, many terrible contracts out there.
The Golden Knights have to select one player from each of the league’s other 30 teams, and a team can only field a roster of 23 players. That math doesn’t add up. They’re going to have to make some deals after the draft. I can see them stockpiling four starting calibre goaltenders and turning that market on its head.
What is going on in Florida? Also with the amount of culture carriers protected around NHL might there still be a market for Sutter/Guddy?
— Stephen Quinn (@GoFour3) June 18, 2017
The hockey men are back, and like any decent hockey man, they value third pair defencemen like Alex Petrovic ahead of bona fide top six wingers like Reilly Smith and Marchessault. It makes total sense. Stop staring at a spreadsheet, nerd.
I think there’s more of a market for Erik Gudbranson than there is for Brandon Sutter. In fact, I’d be willing to be the Canucks could secure a package close to what they gave up for Gudbranson initially if they went in that direction. As for Sutter, that’s going to be a tough sell — even to the hockey men of the league.
Which team made the biggest mistake with their protection list and why?
— Bas Rotteveel (@baslund19) June 18, 2017
The biggest single mistake? That has to be protecting Jimmy Howard (who I think fairly high of) at the expense of Mrazek. That’s just such a bizarre move.
The Canucks not exposing Sutter is a close second.
Why do I always feel like I have apologize for being a #canucks fan?
— Martin Kwaczynski (@martinski319) June 18, 2017
Is this a thing? What’s the apology for? The Canucks are free points for the other 30 teams of the league. Their fans should be thanking you, not demanding an apology.
Do you think Tryamkin have any good value in trade market? Could he be a dead cause for Canucks, but some other team lure him back to NHL?
— Henry Crutching (@HCrutching) June 18, 2017
I highly doubt Nikita Tryamkin has significant trade value. It’s nothing worth dealing him for I’d imagine. I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of Tryamkin coming back to the Canucks, though. It was more about the North American adjustment than playing for the Canucks when it comes to reasons why he left the team. At least, that’s my understanding of the situation.
Did any team get their protection list right?
— ZᴇʀᴏTᴇɴᴀᴄɪᴛʏ (@ZeroTenacity) June 18, 2017
The Washington Capitals.
Can you give a best case scenario NHL player comparison (closest) for Middlestadt, Heiskanen, Petterson, Villardi, Hirshier & llilregen.. 🙂
— Travelers Initiative (@HumanTravels) June 18, 2017
Best case scenario? Let me throw out some random, bordering on useless best case scenario comparisons. These are more about style than talent.
- Casey Mittelstadt – Matt Duchene
- Miro Heiskanen – Hampus Lindholm
- Elias Pettersson – Nicklas Backstrom
- Gabriel Vilardi – Leon Draisaitl
- Nico Hischier – Pavel Datsyuk
- Timothy Liljegren – Erik Karlsson
What do you think of trying to trade for Jake Bean with the Hurricanes loaded on defense to fill future QB of PP? Virtanen plus…?
— Educational Travels (@Twisty_Traveler) June 18, 2017
I’m not a huge fan of Jake Bean’s game. He’s certainly not someone I’d identify as a priority trade target for the Canucks. I can’t imagine the Hurricanes have much of an appetite for dealing Bean, either. And if they do, Jake Virtanen isn’t even a worthy starting point.
— Jeff Putnam (@Putsky88) June 18, 2017
If Sbisa gets claimed, will Juolevi be able to slide in as a LHD replacement, or should the Canucks trade for/sign a stop-gap player?
— Trevor Crawley (@tcrawls) June 18, 2017
I don’t think the Golden Knights will claim Luca Sbisa. There are far too many defencemen who are legitimately good to justify taking on Sbisa. Some of them are cheaper, even. Whether Sbisa is with the Canucks or not, I like Olli Juolevi’s chances of making the team next year. He’s already better than Sbisa.
What is the biggest surprise from the Protected LIsts?
— Scott Rosenhek (@Scottr_31) June 18, 2017
I keep going back to the fact that Detroit’s exposing Mrazek. Just can’t make sense of it for the life of me.
Would Canucks be interested in 1 of VGK 3-4 goalies taken if it were somebody like Calvin Pickard or Malcolm Subban? at the right price
— Seth Byron (@SethByron87) June 18, 2017
I can’t see that as a possibility, no.