Trevor Linden defends Benning, praises Salo, and describes the club’s ‘delicate dance’

On Thursday afternoon Vancouver Canucks president Trevor Linden got into the hot seat for TSN 1040’s President’s Week

Joining Matt Sekeres in studio for a two-hour segment on Vancouver sports talk radio, Linden was treated to several hours of questions – both from Sekeres and from ranting fans – about the club’s overall strategy. During Linden’s lengthy, exhausting appearance the Canucks president defended his general manager Jim Benning and his new assistant general manager John Weisbrod, articulated his belief in the NHL entry draft as crucial for the Canucks’ future, discussed what he’s learned in his first year on the job, said he missed cycling, and, of course, the Luca Sbisa extension was re-litigated for the billionth time this summer.

By the end of the conversation Linden seemed a bit testy, and fair enough. He mostly spent two hours dealing with the same furious questions and fan rants that have permeated around the Vancouver sports market all summer. Still, it was a revealing segment, and bears some unpacking.

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  • Let’s start with Sami Salo, one of Linden’s former teammates and a beloved ex-Canucks skater who announced his retirement from professional hockey on Thursday. “Probably the most underrated player that the Vancouver Canucks have ever seen,” Linden said of Salo.
    “He’s moving his family back to Vancouver, he’s going to make this his home, and he’s a great person,” Linden added, describing Salo’s plans for the short-term. 
    Linden suggested that he’d check in with Salo to see if there was any interesting in perhaps joining the organization in some capacity, and also hinted that there might be a Sami Salo ring of honour night at Rogers Arena as part of the 20th anniversary festivities.

  • Just because I can’t resist, Linden discussed how his life has changed in the 16 months or so since he took over the just as Vancouver’s president.

    “I loved being in the fitness business,” Linden said of his former life. “I enjoyed the work with it and all my corporate relations and the public speaking and connecting with fans across B.C. It was fun, I enjoyed it, lots of time to ride my bike and ski all over the world. Obviously you take a position like this you lose that freedom, but it also makes the time off that much better.”

    Classic.

  • Linden addressed the club’s decision to fire assistant general manager Laurence Gilman, and suggested that the Canucks’ front office would replace him – and particularly his mastery at the negotiating table – by committee. He suggested that John Weisbrod, Jim Benning and himself would all be part of the negotiating team going forward, while the club would lean on in-house counsel for legal advice and on Jonathan Wall for help navigating the collective bargaining agreement (CBA). 

    Even though Gilman’s contract work became a thornier issue in the later years of the Mike Gillis era, the fact is that Vancouver’s management team was dynamite at navigating the CBA and signing players to deals with team-friendly annual average values during Gilman’s Canucks tenure. I think it’s fair to say that with the recent deals for Luca Sbisa, Derek Dorsett and Brandon Sutter, that hasn’t necessarily been a strength of the new Canucks administration. 

  • Linen also addressed the club’s decision to fire Mike Burnstein, describing that as a particularly tough conversation. He went on to sing new trainer human performance consultant Dr. Rick Celebrini’s praises at length, calling his hire a ‘major coup’ for the organization and discussing the importance of having his medical team, his human performance team and his sports science team functioning in concert. I’ve been critically listening to executives speaks for years and it’s my opinion that on the subject of human performance, Linden sounded particularly passionate and knowledgable. 
  • I thought Linden had a few interesting comments in defending Benning, whose q-rating has obviously taken a bit of a hit in the Vancouver market since roughly mid-April. 

    “When I came in last year, obviously hiring Jim was a focus,” Linden said of Benning. “I wanted to hire a builder, someone who was a talent evaluator, someone who could take this group and restructure this team.”

    The most popular player in franchise history was also asked if the firings of Gilman and Lorne Henning reflected Benning’s preference for making decisions in a more unilateral fashion, and whether or not there’s some risks associated with that approach. I thought Linden’s answer was fascinating, frankly.

    “I think you hire good people that you trust and that you recognize have a skill set for team building and understanding what it takes to be a championship team,” Linden said. “I think you allow them the autonomy and set them up to make decisions. These aren’t all made in a vacuum. (Benning) likes input. I think we’ve got a good group when you think of John (Weisbrod), myself, Stan Smyl, Ryan Jphnson is going to become part of that group and play a bigger role in Utica.

    “One thing I like about Jim is he’s very decisive. He’s able to make a decision. The situation we came into last year and the challenges we face. Jim’s able to make a decision and I think that’s a strength. We’re not in a situation where we can afford to just re-sign veteran core players. We may, but at the end of the day we’re a team in transition….

    “The number one most important part of our business right now is amateur scouting…” Linden continued after reeling off a list of young players that should compete for roster spots next season. “That’s our lifeblood. There’s no other way we’re going to get better than through the amateur draft.”

    Later in the interview Linden praised Benning’s decisiveness as an executive, which frankly – and perhaps I’m reading a bit too much into this – I still hear as a repudiation of the Gillis regime.

    “I will say this about Jim,” Linden said. “As displayed the last couple of years he has the ability to make critical decisions and difficult decisions and do what’s right. When he came in here 16 months ago he was faced with no-trade contracts and how are you going to deal with that and he’s been able to make decisions and do what’s right for our fans and our team.”

    I certainly disagree with some of Benning’s decisions and priorities, but there’s no denying his effectiveness as an executive when it comes to shedding salary, making trades, and being willing to pay in order to land pieces he covets. Decisiveness isn’t as important a trait for an executive as, say, prudence, but it’s not nothing.

    Overall Linden’s portrayal of Benning – as a decisive, team builder – is compelling, in my opinion. At the very least it highlights a couple of areas that I think are bona fide strengths of Benning’s first 16 months as Canucks general manager. And, in attempting to cast his Canucks regime as the decisive regime that drafts well, I think Linden is drawing a smart line in the sand that delineates his management team from Gillis’. 

  • I thought Linden’s defense of Weisbrod and his potential involvement in the Ryan O’Reilly offer sheet snafu – where the Calgary Flames overlooked that CBA rule 13.23 would apply to O’Reilly and he’d have to pass through waivers were the Colorado Avalanche to decide against matching the Flames’ offer – was significantly less effective.

    “I don’t know if it was John or Jay Feaster, but I know John to be an outstanding person,” Linden said of the episode. “I think there’s a great deal of trust (between Weisbrod and Jim Benning). I think he’s a good talent evaluator and a very smart guy.”

    Linden then went on to say that the loophole that the Flames management team missed – which, at the time then Canucks GM Gillis hilariously claimed to be wise to on national television – was ‘obscure’ and suggested that it wasn’t fair to judge a guy over missing one obscure loophole that the NHL itself wasn’t even hip to at the time. 

    I personally don’t care which executive was primarily responsible for the oversight, this was a $10 million offer sheet that, had it been successful, would’ve cost your club a first- and a third-round draft pick. When a management team is doing a deal of that size and import, there’s no excuse for their failure to do  the due diligence. Period. 

    Linden’s view that Weisbrod shouldn’t be viewed exclusively through the lens of one bad moment is fair enough, but there’s just no getting around that the O’Reilly incident reflects poorly on everyone associated with that management team. Probably best to own it when this question comes up in the future (and I’d add that I’m hopeful that we won’t have to hear about it every time Linden faces questions from the public).

    ” Obviously the Luca Sbisa contract came up, and Linden admitted that the high value of Sbisa’s qualifying offer played a role in the price of that extension. He also admitted that Sbisa and his partner (Kevin Bieksa) struggled mightily in the postseason series against the Calgary Flames, but that he still thinks Sbisa has some untapped upside (which, maybe? Probably not though).

    Linden also intimated that he didn’t regret doing the deal:

  • With westward AHL expansion coming this fall, one would’ve reasonably expected the possibility of a Canucks AHL affiliate coming to the lower mainland to be a hot topic – particularly considering the climate in Abbotsford, B.C. a few years ago. That hasn’t come to pass though. The question of the Utica Comets moving to British Columbia was broached briefly by a fan, and Linden shut it down unequivocally.

    “Our situation in Utica is special. It’s a great spot,” Linden said. “The one thing that we love is that we have six, seven teams within a two hour drive. The practice time and ability to rest between games is significant. The support they get in Utica, the guys love playing there. The dressing room the weight facility is NHL caliber. At this point we’re really happy there.”

  • Finally Linden was asked several times during the interview about the possibility of a tear it all down, start from scratch rebuild and he repeatedly called such an approach to roster construction “unrealistic.”

    “It’s unrealistic to just flush everyone out,” LInden said. “I don’t understand that. I have trouble with the realism of that question. It’s not possible. You have to look at where we are and what we have…

    “I don’t know where things go in the future, but right now, it’s not possible and furthermore I believe strongly that we have to integrate young players with some sort of foundation for them to be successful.

    “Let’s be bad for seven, eight years whatever that looks like. I don’t know what that looks like. People say they want that… *exasperated sigh*

    Where we are with the group we have, we’re going to be the best team that we can be. I’m not going into the season to try and lose. We have our eyes on today we have our eyes on the future, we’re doing a delicate dance and we’re going to do the best we can… We love the fact that we have some young players and can integrate them with the quality veterans that we have.”

    Earlier in the interview, when the same subject was broached Linden referred to his preference for developing young players in a more veteran environment. He also added this telling nugget:

    “I don’t think it’s completely realistic when you look at the players we have viz their contract status and their importance to this organization.”

    That can only be referring to the Sedin twins. Too often in analyzing professional sports teams we judge them through the lens of an overly simplistic binary – that a team must always either be going all in for a championship, or tearing it all down to rebuild. If you’re an executive running a team that doesn’t fit neatly into one of those boxes – and that’s probably the majority of professional sports teams, by the way, though you wouldn’t know it from reading sports blogs – then you’re an idiot.

    Too little attention is paid to the fact that professional sports properties are just that: sports entertainment properties. They’re in the entertainment business. We can quibble with some of Linden and Benning’s moves – and trust me, we have at length in this space – but the notion that their approach to team building is indefensible strikes me as wrong headed.

    Vancouver isn’t the firmest hockey market. And the Canucks are a franchise largely without history. Having the Sedin twins retire as Canucks can provide real value to the club. There’s also real value to having them hit 1000 career points and tie a bow on their Hall of Fame caliber careers in Vancouver. 

    Too often we (the royal we, I mean) underestimate the costs and the risks associated with ‘tanking’ and in my view that harms our team building analysis.

    Benning’s and Linden’s is a nuanced approach, but from moving out veterans on expensive no-trade contracts, to loading up on successful AHL players in their early 20s to help bridge the chasm between the Sedins and the Horvats of the world, there’s definitely method underlying the club’s moves. What the Canucks are doing this summer has seemingly confused the hockey world, but it has long looked to me like a gradualist rebuild. Considering the particulars of the franchise’s marketplace and history, I think that’s a defensible approach.

You can listen to the full interview here

Correction: This article originally and incorrectly identified Dr. Rick Celebrini as the club’s trainer.



  • Double Dees

    I’m a proponent of the gradual rebuild.

    The Canucks have outlined the pieces they believe they need to win a championship which is the following:

    1. Elite Goalie
    2. Elite Centers/Playmakers
    3. Goal Scoring Wingers
    4. PMD
    5. Shutdown D
    6. Elite Shutdown C

    Canucks currently have lots 3 (Virtanen, Boeser) and lots of potential 6 (Horvat, Cassels, Mccann)

    They desperately need the PMD and Elite Center talent, but those only come around once in a blue moon and you need a top 5 pick typically to land one of those players.

    The Canucks will never be bad enough to get those picks while the Sedins are on the roster, but it doesn’t mean they can’t still build towards that goal. There are D-men and Goalies to be had in the Canucks drafting range over the next two years (6-15th overall imo.) And if they start trading their veterans for picks that’s just more ammo for their draft gun.

    IMO. The Canucks should focus on drafting D-men and other auxiliary pieces until the Sedins retire. Then they can tank and hopefully a franchise Centerman or Elite Puck Moving d-man falls on their lap.

    They don’t need to be TERRIBLE for 5 years to build a winner, they just need to be terrible at the right time (Look at the difference between the #1 overall pick from the 2015 draft and the 2012 draft, which one would you rather have?)

    In the meantime, the Canucks look to be building a team full of face punchers to keep the faithful entertained while the team goes through this transition. Expect the team to sign Lucic next year to really cement the culture of this team in that direction.

    Benning does have a plan, some of us may not agree with it but it is not as Drance states indefensible.

    • mk

      I think Gillis’s greatest contribution to the Canucks was in turning it into a professional organization, one where players in the prime of their career would want to go and play hockey because they would be treated well, control their own destinies, play for a passionate fan base and have a realistic chance of competing for the Cup each year. As a former player agent it’s a safe bet that he understood what motivated a pro player to choose team A over team B, and as fans we were treated to quite a lot of high quality hockey during his time here.

      The Benning “foundational player philosophy” is really quite different, in that he pursues the pieces that he wants at any cost. And given his authoritative decision making style, the price of a wrong decision will be quite high.

      I’m curious to see how Coach Willie will perform this season. I think he deserves a lot of the blame for the embarrassing first round exit, and to date has worn little of it. I’m also interested in seeing how the relationship between Coach and GM evolves, because to date to me at least he looks like a yes man, perpetually in the GM’s shadow.

    • Double Dees

      “They desperately need the PMD and Elite Center talent, but those only come around once in a blue moon and you need a top 5 pick typically to land one of those players.

      The Canucks will never be bad enough to get those picks while the Sedins are on the roster”

      Which 5 teams do you think will be worse than the Canucks this year?

      Carolina, Arizona, Toronto, and who?

      • Double Dees

        Calgary: Dougie Hamilton aside they are lacking in forward depth and heavily over achieved last year.

        Edmonton: Still have questions on their D, and they will be leaving heavily on rookies and young players (McDavid, Nurse, Klefbom.

        Dallas: Dallas is going to get beat up by the central division

        New Jersey: The devils are going to be terrible.

        Buffalo: it depends on Eichel, but right now they are in for a world of hurt. Lots of question markets on D and their goaltending will be bad.

        They wont be better than all those teams but they are definitely not bottom five.

  • Double Dees

    “They don’t need to be TERRIBLE for 5 years to build a winner, they just need to be terrible at the right time”

    Saying that and actually going through with it are two different things. I don’t recall in their entire history they ever tanking for a star. Because if they did, they would have drafted stars. Sure, they were bottom feeders before because they were truly terrible but now it seems that they are content with stuck in mediocrity, with no post season success or any good draft picks.

    Could have saved so much time and effort had they tanked and gutted the team on purpose a few years ago but no. Now there is no future and a whole lot of wasted time. Oh, the PR department is going to have a wonderful time come 50 years and they have to think of something to celebrate that with.

    • Double Dees

      I was all for the Canucks tanking last year but a lot of things weighed against that.

      1. The team signed alot of veterans to favorable contracts with the intention of being competitive. Tanking on them would have sent a bad message to future potential UFA’s about the team’s integrity.

      2. The team has a lot of contracts with no movement clauses, so even if the Canucks were to tank they would not have gotten full value for their veterans. The Canucks believe, rightly or wrongly that the value of having those veterans on the roster to mentor the rookies is worth more than the picks they would have returned and the marginally better draft picks that would have resulted from their absence from the roster.

      As Drance mentioned, the timing just wasn’t right for a rebuild. Once the Sedins are gone, the team will have no choice but to be terrible, that’s when the tanking window truly opens.

    • Braindead Benning

      I was all for the Canucks tanking last year but a lot of things weighed against that.

      1. The team signed alot of veterans to favorable contracts with the intention of being competitive. Tanking on them would have sent a bad message to future potential UFA’s about the team’s integrity.

      2. The team has a lot of contracts with no movement clauses, so even if the Canucks were to tank they would not have gotten full value for their veterans. The Canucks believe, rightly or wrongly that the value of having those veterans on the roster to mentor the rookies is worth more than the picks they would have returned and the marginally better draft picks that would have resulted from their absence from the roster.

      As Drance mentioned, the timing just wasn’t right for a rebuild. Once the Sedins are gone, the team will have no choice but to be terrible, that’s when the tanking window truly opens.

  • mk

    There was a time when I would actually listen to and enjoy when Canucks management did interview spots. But that time has come and gone. I can’t even listen to Benning or Linden anymore, in fact – i can’t even see their faces. They are huge triggers for me. Their impact on this organization the last year has left me feeling angry, alienated and hopeless about the direction of this team. It’s beyond pathetic.

    Listening to either of them babble about incoherent nonsense is enough to make me want to watch paint dry. Or listen to fingers scratch on a chalkboard. I would enjoy either of those more than listening to them. They have no idea what they are doing as heads of this org. They are not even on the same page. They both spout different nonsense at the same time. They can’t back up the moves/contracts/trades that they’ve made cause they are are a flaming pile of garbage and everyone in the league knows it. Every analyst, blogger and NHL fanbse has done nothing but make fun of this team all summer. Cause they know what’s coming. As do the smart fans in Canucks nation. It’s a tire fire, with no direction.

    • Braindead Benning

      This assessment is absolutley correct and right to the point. How there as my trash it is beyond comprehention? must be a bunch of delusional brainwashed #16 lovers still clinging to that 94 run when he was a PLAYER and somehow wishfully thinking with his new president’s title and no NHL manageral experience he will somehow magicaly bring success.

      Its no wonder many hockey analysts are already questioning the direction (or lack of) in which Jimbo and # 16 are taking this team, all the horrid returns on the trades and keeping overpriced goaltenders around, firing Gillman (cause he has a brain) and not to mention the extentions to Sbisa & Dorset makes you think “what the hell is going on here” are these guys for real..lol

  • Double Dees

    I never listened to the radio interview so appreciate the solid recap.

    I’ve heard all this before and I do stand by what team management is doing – I feel it is premature to write off their approach to this transition. These are the beginnings of a foundation to grow from. Jim has a master plan which cannot be properly judged yet. I think that the Canucks are going to be just fine.

    What jumped out at me was the comment that “Vancouver isn’t the firmest hockey market”. What? Don’t understand the point, and that statement is completely false. Vancouver is one of the most successful franchises in the NHL and has an extremely strong fan base in this market. This is and always will be Hockey Town West Coast.

    • Double Dees

      Hahahaha. Seriously man???

      The arena is full of bandwagon fans. And I’m pretty sure the whole sell out streak ended this year. Everyone is on their phones not even watching the game!!! It’s all chatter while the game is on and when the horn does go off its all the drunkards waking up!!!

      Hockey town west coast? Ur delusional.

      LA Kings will have something to say to that!!

      Dude wake up. Vancouver has the worst fans. Why do u think no free agent wants to come to Van? Because everyone knows Canuck fans are the worst bandwagon junkies in the NHL.

      So take ur comment and…u know what to do.

      • Double Dees

        Dude,you have never lived in Saskatchewan,Alberta or Manitoba if you hate Vancouver and think any sane mind would not cream to live here.

        Sutter just signed to live here for five years,Miller signed here for three years and one of the top scorers in the NHL signed to play and live here in Radim Vrbata.

        Players make millions of dollars a year and they could care less if you think this beautiful city has bandwagon junkies.

        So take your comment and sit on it under your bridge in the snow.

        • Double Dees

          And where are the quality free agents?

          Sutter was a desperate signing from Benning and no body was gonna go after him anyways.

          Miller is old and no one wanted him but the Canucks

          Vrbata is old and plays the disappearing act in the playoffs.

          U act as if the Canucks are reeling in big fish cowboy! When in reality they’re minnows at best. Fish bait.

          Come on man! U call these guys the future of an NHL franchise????!

          Keep blazin.

          • Double Dees

            Remember when u weren’t born when the Canucks didn’t win the cup?

            And remember they won’t even come close to winning a cup till u die!

            Truth hurts. I’m sorry ull never experience a winner…only losers.

            So sad….

            Unfortunately the oilers have a history that I did experience. So ur comment sucks a$$.

    • Double Dees

      That’s because linden is a weasel, just ask Messier.
      How he ever came back to play for the country club loser brand he helped create has weasel written all over it.

      The way he talks it’s clear he went to the BestBuy business school…. nothing but hot air and smoke. Maybe he could ask fans to pay extra for warranty they don’t need next year during games.

      • andyg

        Anybody that defers to Mark Messier over Trevor Linden and calls themselves a Canucks fan in the same breath are either mentally deranged or the biggest troll in North America.

        • andyg

          where in my comment did I ever say I was a Canuck fan or a fan? where?

          Maybe you should learn how to read or get treatment for your Ass-Burgers Syndrome.

          The only trolls are the ones who try to defend that train wreck of a team. 50 years and nothing is around the corner. Drink it up, you deserve it.

          • Double Dees

            That would explain your lack of knowledge and piss poor attitude.
            Maybe you should go work in hockey for 35 years and get back to us if you ever get beyond back massager or water boy.

          • Double Dees

            You shouldn’t talk about yourself like that, it will give you lower self esteem.

            You can’t handle the truth, so you have to blame others. didn’t your parents teach you that it’s worse to blame others than the actual fault itself?

            Not likely and that’s why you talk BS the way you do. It’s in your upbringing. your parents have no ethics and neither do you, but of course, you want it all. you want to be able to Bs and expect the red carpet treatment too. Hahaha.

            #delusionalashell

  • Double Dees

    Always enjoy listening to Trevor because he is Canucks royalty and bleeds blue and green.
    -Managing the loss of Gilman by committee.
    -Trevor personally made the decision to jettison Bernstein.
    -Not in a situation to re-sign core players as they are now ageing veterans-AKA the Gillis playbook for seven years.
    -Drafting and development is the #1 goal of the franchise at this time and their scouting hirings reflect this.
    -Rebuild is not realistic with contracts of signed players.
    -Do not have enough quality young players to jettison the veterans.
    -Veterans provide leadership by example.
    -We are transitioning but BLOWING IT UP is not even remotely realistic.
    -Drafting and development is the only option.
    -Culture is quality people,workmanship,positive habits and leadership that breeds a winning environment.
    -The foundation is hard work and being humble.

    So,the tankers can stick it.

    • andyg

      The foundation is 47 years of wasting time doing nothing.

      rebuild is not realistic? – Should have thought about that years ago.

      Do not have enough quality young players to jettison the veterans. – Should have thought of that years ago.

      We are transitioning but BLOWING IT UP is not even remotely realistic. – Of course not, cause blowing it up would mean a real transition.

      So,the tankers can stick it. – the tankers have McDavid. you don;t have a future. What you do have, is more wasted time… again.

      the Canucks…WINNING? HATE IT!

      • Double Dees

        You had Kevin Lowe, pimply faced kids and last place teams for a decade.
        Now you have another pimple faced kid and a last place team.
        No wonder you hate everything.

        Edmonton ,losing year after year and the resultant manic depression brings this blog confused space cadets like you.

        • Double Dees

          If that is true, than how many cups do you have?

          You’re proud of having nothing. You’re a nothing lover. Zero, squat, nil, nadda, goose egg.

          And you think you can talk about who has what?

          Go back to the drawing board , they’re paying you way too little to be so willfully retarded.

          Spam is spam, not sirloin. Don’t hype spam and expect to get any respect.

  • andyg

    Excellent even-handed recap and analysis. Thanks for this — it’s this kind of piece that would be far better to see on CA rather than some of the gossipy ones that have been the norm.

    • Braindead Benning

      Sutton – who in the heck is that…
      Its set up in the first 3 years and is waived in the last years of his contract.. Benning knows what he is doing..that gives Sutter security which is what all players want same with normal workers. Yes we all want security in our jobs so we can provide for our familier!
      what a novel idea…

  • Double Dees

    Glad to hear Sami Salo will be coming back to Van and Linden will try to get him involved with the team. Sami deserves to be honoured before the fans. He was an absolutely reliable player (when healthy) and a very good man, a valued teammate, one of the top-10 Canucks D.

  • mk

    What happened to this site? It used to be great, both in terms of article content and discussion in the comments section.

    I think I’ll look elsewhere going forward. My suggestion is to focus more on the people in involved in hockey – their character, history, and stories. I don’t mind advanced statistics, but there’s been too much. Even if you could perfectly quantify a player’s value, it’s actually not that interesting. People are interesting. Hockey is interesting. So this article from Drance was actually refreshing.

    Here’s an analogy for advanced stats. A few decades back, business managers became highly invested in measuring performance. That was the priority, and decisions were made like calculations. In our present times, leaders have seen that was too reductionistic of an approach. Current leaders do indeed consider metrics and analytics, but most place higher value on their gut and instinct. “Culture” has been mocked on this site, as if it’s fantasy. Are people aware that the leading influencer on strategy (Peter Drucker) has stated that “culture trumps strategy every time?” The advanced stats community has overestimated the value of their trade, and has become too extreme in thinking that approaches that are non based on advanced stats are necessarily inferior.

    I really suggest that the comments section be regulated. I think it will help a lot with attracting people here.

    Good luck with the site.

  • Double Dees

    “”Let’s be bad for seven, eight years whatever that looks like. I don’t know what that looks like. People say they want that… *exasperated sigh*”

    game, set and match for trevor linden…..

  • Double Dees

    What’s with Canuck losers and grammar?

    Does it rearry brother u tht oders tipe a differennt waiy?

    Are wee stilll n skool?

    Losers. The only comeback is GRAMmAr.

    Yawn…

  • mk

    Ring of honor for Sami Salo? They’ll put anyone up there. What’s going to happen if this organization actually wins something and people actually earn spots up there? It’s going to be so clogged up with garbage players and players that didn’t want to be Canucks in the first place that they wont be able to properly honor… yeah, you’re right. It wont’ ever come up. Congratulations Sami! You have achieved mediocrity.