Burrows Suspension Possible After Game 3 Skirmishes

Once again, a frustrated team at the tail-end of a one-sided loss increased physicality and triggered some fisticuffs.

In Game 2, it was the Flames, and Deryk Engelland narrowly avoided suspension. In Game 3, it was the Canucks, and we’ll see what happens with Alex Burrows. He was assessed a game misconduct for instigating a fight with Kris Russell late in the third period following a big hit to Johnny Gaudreau (which he was already being penalized for).

Here’s the relevant part of the rulebook (via the NHL’s official PDF of their rulebook):

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Based on the letter of the law, unless the league feels the officials really got it wrong with the instigator, we’ll see Burrows get dinged with a one-game suspension and Willie Desjardins get a $10,000 wallet-lightening.

Dan Hamhuis also took a late-game penalty for hitting Sam Bennett in the head, but Bennett finished the game and didn’t appear to have any injury, so I personally doubt there are any further supplemental discipline following Game 3.

  • And let’s not get into “classless” arguments here, folks. There are really cool people who cheer for Vancouver (and Calgary) and utter morons who cheer for Vancouver (and Calgary).

    Let’s just remember one thing: at least neither city has to support the Oilers.

    • DoubleDIon

      There are no cool people who cheer for the Canucks. There are no cool players who play for the Canucks. Everything about that team and it’s fanbase is completely devoid of cool.

      • Qualicum Wayne

        DoubleDion wrote:
        “There are no cool people who cheer for the Canucks. There are no cool players who play for the Canucks. Everything about that team and it’s fanbase is completely devoid of cool”

        I’m a bit confused as to why this juvenile crap is all over this blog. I started reading here at Canucks Army because I appreciated the more mature thoughtful approach to the content and feedback. However, today it feels like I’m back reading at canucks.kids. What’s up?

    • Kybb79

      Multiple uses of the term “classless” were used to describe the actions of the Canuck players, not their fans.

      This is a place to discuss the game and share opinions, is it not?

      Perhaps Ryan, you would be better served reading a little more closely and playing referee a little less.


      • The GREAT Walter White

        Classless: posting using someone else’s name on the FN comment board………

        The readers are able to tell the difference between red ink and black ink, loser!!!!!!


  • Kybb79

    Burrows is the biggest coward in the game next to Bieksa! He proved it tonight! He will get his ! Next game he plays! He must of been upset after Ferland made him cry in game two! LOL

    Hey Nuck fans your classless team got there butt kicked tonight! All of CANADA hates your Cheap shot team!

  • Let’s be honest here, on a certain level, I think Burrows realized that he would be engaged by SOMEBODY after the hit on Gaudreau, saw Russell and basically went “So, let’s get this over with, okay?”

    He’d probably rather fight Russell more than Bollig or Engelland or Ferland anyway.

  • beloch

    My prediction is that both suspendable Canucks will get off and Hartley will be fined another $50K, just because.

    Engelland’s crimes in game 2 were arguably all passion, but the hits on both Bennett and Gaudreau seemed like premeditated attempts at taking out star players. I’d be disgusted with those hits even if the Flames were on the giving end.

    The league would be wise to do something to cool down this series and stop the head-hunting, but I suspect their ratings are just too high. The HNIC panel was clearly loving the ultra-violence in this series, and I bet the league does too. I only hope no player, on either side, winds up injured because of this.

    I hope Hamhuis and Burrows accidentally collide and put each other out of commission through sheer stupidity, but I do not want to see them taken down the way they tried to take Bennett and Gaudreau down.

  • Kybb79

    Canucks fans had plenty to say after last game when Flames were looking to fight straight up. Called them “goons”.

    What do you have to say now?

    Canucks are totally classless. Cheap shots and sucker punches is the only kind of “toughness” they’re capable of. No wonder fans around the league hate them so much.

    As ugly as the end of tonight was, I just keep reminding myself how sweet it’s going to be in the end.

  • smith

    I want the NHL to protect the star players. I want To watch Bennet and Gaudreau play not have them knocked out by dirty plays. If Bollig did a headshot on Kane or Crosby I would want a 10 game suspension. Same thing with our young stars. Concussions are two damaging. Look at the number of star players drastically impacted by concussions. Crosby, Kariya, Lindros etc.. A suspension for this crap cannot be too long.

  • While Hamhuis and Burrow’s suspendable offences were bad tonight, Bieksa showed no class at all when he sucker punched Ferland and continued when Ferland was on his knees…all while the young 21 year old still had his gloves on!

    However can’t say I’m surprised anymore by the Nucks group. Bieksa, along with Burrows, Hansen, Dorsett and the Sedins are responsible for a team persona and culture which makes them Canada’s most hated team.

    Thankfully they’ll all be gone in 2-3 years. Hopefully Benning and Desjardins can lead the team culture to do an about-face and lead the team back to respectability with all the new young faces coming in to the dressing room.

  • Kybb79

    Nuck fans how can you idolize Bieksa for jumping Ferland when he had his gloves on then he continues to punch him when he was on his knees?Then Ferland gets up and starts to unload and the refs grab him! Aaron Ward called Bieksa a idiot/ Classless on TSN for doing that! Bieksa will get his soon!

  • KiLLKiND

    Now that I see it I think it is worthy especially after that dirty hit. I’m not sure I think it could be worthy of 1-2 games usually but after NHL didn’t suspend Engelland I bet Canucks would be pissed if Burrows got suspended even if the little rat deserves it.

    • Brent G.

      One thing to consider is that Burrows is a repeat offender (I think). Not sure if that would have any bearing on the final decision regarding the suspension though.

    • Brent

      Shoulder on shoulder hit. Shouldn’t have even been a penalty. No suspension as Russel went after him first but have to admit Burrows dropped the gloves fast, probably too fast. Much faster than Ferjerk did with Dorset. Oh ya, he didn’t….

      All credit to Calgary tonight. Totally outplayed the Canucks, made them look old and slow. Your forecheck is simply killing us, almost as much as Sbisa. Canucks need to regroup and come up with a solution to get the puck out better or Calgary is moving on.

    • The GREAT Walter White

      It wasn’t anywhere near as dirty as the Backlund hit in the second period on Dan Hamhuis. But that’s Backlunds style, running and hitting from behind.

  • BuffaloBillsOfHockey

    OK, Canucks fan posting here. First off, congratulations to the Flames on their game 3 win.

    However, the purpose of my post is to vent on some Vancouver “fans”. Namely, Lawrence Johnson, who posted comments following a Province article about how the Canucks were “completely intimidated and pushed around”, how “it looked like Boston all over again”, how he’s “ashamed to be a Canuck supporter” and how he’s “said since 2008, when I wrote for bleacherreport.com, [the Canucks are] still not built for the playoffs”.

    This is why I read Canucks Army and not Bleacher Report or The Score anymore: Intelligent, methodical thinking over dumbass, arbitrary beliefs and superstition based on short term memory of an incredibly fast paced, fluid game.

    He also complained about how the Canucks were outhit 18-33 (and shame on Ben Kuzma for thinking hits qualify as “Advanced Stats”, by the way; it shows just what a dinosaur he really is).

    Ugh. Hockey 101 people. You don’t get to call me a nerd because it’s not even advanced analytics: If you’re outhitting, it means the other team has the puck more often; in plain and simple terms, it means they’re doing a better job of controlling play than you. Being proud of your team laying more hits is like being proud of your tiny piece and the fact you drive a Hummer to compensate for it.

    And as for Lawrence, he’s an idiot of the highest caliber. I think most of us remember the Vancouver-Boston series of 2011. Yes, Johnson (has a last name ever been so appropriate?) the Canucks clearly weren’t “built for the playoffs”, that’s why they took the Bruins to game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final, literally the second furthest point you can get to without winning the cup, the very furthest being overtime of said game. They brought it to basically within a coin toss, you moron. The fact they did this is EVIDENCE TO THE CONTRARY: They were built PERFECTLY for the playoffs. Unfortunately, they haven’t been since (I’m a fan as well as a realist).

    If you made it this far, thanks for reading and regardless of whether you’re a Canucks or Flames fan, hell of a series, eh? I can’t wait for Tuesday, and I’ll be a bit sad when it’s all over. This series is the rekindling of a wonderful rivalry.

    • gnam

      Yeah … there’s crappy fans all over. Some wank job crypto-fascist over at nhl.com is saying some pretty weird stuff in support of the flames – thanks to all those Flames fans over there that shut him down. Every market has a few, some louder than others. Just ignore ’em.

  • Greg

    To me, there was 3 potentially suspendable plays at the end of the game. Burrow, hamhuis, and bieksa… I get that bieksa probably thought Ferland was out there to fight but the replay clearly shows Ferland had his gloves on, eyes on the puck, and thought he was engaged in a puck battle. He had no idea he was about to start eating knuckle sandwiches.

    If the league doesn’t hand out at least 1 suspension from any of those, they are clearly saying they’d like more of this in game 4. You’d think that wouldn’t be the message they’d want to send in the middle of a concussion lawsuit.

    • Brent G.

      Burrows definitely should be suspended and do agree that there is a case to be made for Bieksa and Hamhuis. That being said, if I were a betting man they will give Desjardin some nominal fine and a nicely worded letter kindly asking him to get control of his room.

      Kangaroo court is in session!

    • everton fc

      Bieksa hates Ferland. So Ferland has done his job. Bieksa’s tough. A good fighter. While I hate him because he’s a Canuck, I also respect him. He did what he’s been inching to do all series – get one up on Ferland.Get into Ferland’s head so the kid gets undisciplined. But this Ferland is not the same Michael Ferland who played for the Wheaties, meaning, he’ll pick his spot next time he and Bieksa “bump into each other”.

      These two will meet again. Of this I’m certain.

      Bieksa’s jumping Ferland doesn’t really bother me. Burrows should eb suspended. Hamhuis’ head shot on Bennett should warrant a game, as well, but won’t, as that would be too much for the league to dish out in one sitting. Ultimately, the Flames – our young boys, vets and also-rans – have got inside the Canucks heads. They can’t match the speed and stamina of the Flames. The Nucks are aging. The Sedin’s, Bieksa, Vrbata, Burrows… All 33. Hamahuis and Higgins both 31. This is the Nucks last chance with this core group. What will they do on their first line to “protect” the Sedins without Burrows, for this si where things may be headed for Game 4. I’d have Ferland on the ice every shift the Sedin’s play if Burrows is missing, for it seemed they were “shy” of Ferland, as he’s a wrecking ball out there.

      We have the advantage. Game 2 was an opportunity for Hartley to coach for Game 3. He did superbly, and the boys listened.

      Coach of the Year. Minus $50K!

        • everton fc

          I think Bieksa wanted to start with Ferland. So he did. Did he jump Ferland? Probably. But it’s all part of what’s happening in this series. And I think Ferland will look for Bieksa in the corners the rest and on open ice the rest of his career.

          Which means Ferland’s missions is accomplished. Bieksa has certainly been a warrior for the Canucks, at times the only one. He is trying to get under the kid’s skin. All part of the game.

          I do hear what you are saying, though.

          If the Nucks had a smallish skilled guy, our guys would “strategically” try to hit him a bit harder, get in his head, get him off his game. As long as it’s clean, as long as it’s not head shots or boarding while a guy is going down, it’s always been part of the game. As long as it’s clean, which in a fast-paced contact sport is hard to maintain… It’s what Johnny has to deal with in this league.

      • everton fc

        Only part I disagree with is the part about Bieksa getting one up on Ferland. Easy to pound on a gut that is still playing the puck. How exactly did Bieksa get in Ferland head? Ferland clear;y has matured to the point of forgetting about it at the ned of the game. Sounds like he actually thought it was appropriate response.

        Bieksa saying Ferland was irrelevant is the definition of getting in someone’s head. Ask his teammates and coach how irrelevant Ferland was.
        Ask Dorsett why he needed to try to engage Ferland in a fight.

        • everton fc

          You misinterpreted my comment. Bieksa didn’t get one up on Ferland. Ferland’s getting inside Bieksa’s head is causing Bieksa to become a bit undisciplined. Perhaps. And to your point, Bieksa saying Ferland was irrelevant proves Ferland indeed is relevant. Possibly the most relevant player in this series thus far.

          So you and I are on the exact same page!

  • everton fc

    The hit on Johnny was initiated from shoulder, only bad thing was distance to the boards, but that could be from speed of game. I can drop that as being legitimately dirty.

    Burrows dropping the gloves on Russel was kinda cheap, but at least they jostled a bit before that and Russel was looking straight at him and had an ability to defend himself somewhat capably.

    Bieksa on Ferland though? That was just dirty. A pure squid move. Ferland was trying to get through when Bieksa pinned him to the boards, with his hands still on his stick and trapped against the boards. Ferland kept trying to fight through towards the puck when Bieksa unloaded 3 uppercuts. Bad action to the maximum.

    Bieksa is lucky the refs got in when they did, cause Ferland was finally getting into a position to retaliate and the look on his face was pure fury. I’d be worried if I was Bieksa after that, 3 unimpeded cheap shots and Ferly was still capable and willing to go.

    In short- Bieksa is a pillow punching goof. Straight up malicious, dirty, and I don’t see how you could defend his actions at all.

  • slapshot444

    Some ones gonna get a game. Either Hamhuis or Burrows. As England got off his BS instigator then Burrows might get the same consideration even thought his was real. The head shot to the rookie won’t go un noticed though and will likely draw a game for Hamhuis.
    Wille should get 100k fine all things being even, if they really want to put a stop to the end of game shenanigans. They will have to pass the hat on the coast.
    Flames 2, Fishbirds1

  • First Name Unidentified

    Vancouver is going to get out-coached in this series. Bobby H is a very smart hockey coach.

    On a side note, when you have Monahan, JohnnyG, Bennett, Brodie, Ferland and next year Poirier and TSpoon lined up……who needs McDavid??

    • Brent G.

      I don’t remember where I read the comments (Oilernation or Sportsnet likely) by Oiler fans claiming McDavid might become the greatest player of all time. All that screams to me is they will put crippling pressure on this poor 17 year old kid and turn him into Daigle 2.0.

      You’d think they would learn to not just hand over the keys and ‘C’ to a kid who has only played a few junior games. After all, that strategy worked so well for Hall, Nuge and Yakupov.

      • everton fc

        I believe Nelson will handle these kids in the appropriate manner. He’ll also handle the vets the same way. Nelson is the best coach for the Oilers at the moment. He’ll do fine there. I’m a die-hard Flames fan, but never hated the Oilers as much as I’ve always hated teams like the Canucks, Ducks…

        A healthy provincial rivalry would be good for the league, and for the fans in Alberta. I lived up there for three years. Most of their fans are good fans, like most of us. I can’t imagine any Flames fan hating the Oilers as much as the Canucks, these days, going forward.

      • Rockmorton65

        I know, right. I can see it now. Throw him out against the Getzlaf’s & Toews’ of he conference and he gets his head kicked in. Midway through the season, KLowe starts yelling at him, saying “we’ve sucked hard for a decade to get you, now get us the cup!”

  • Burnward

    What we’ve learned so far: Gaudreau is big time, Bennett will be the best forward from that draft, Monahan is just fine health-wise, Ferland is our Lucic and Russell is truly cowboy tough.

    On the other side: once again the Canucks show what Boston proved, punch them in the mouth and they fold.

    Beautiful game last night.

    Go Flames Go!!!

    • everton fc

      Spot-on. Outside Bieksa and Dorsett, they lack the ability to intimidate anyone.

      Strategically speaking. And I agree with the comments on Burrows – we hate him. We’ve had players here we’ve cheered for that were close to that type of player. You defend guys like Burrows when he’s wearing your jersey, you hate him when he’s the opponent. The only guy everyone hated was Sean Avery! Justifiably so.

      Let’s talk hockey. It’s a great series. It’s a war. Guys are playing on the edge. It’s always been good playoff hockey as long as the refs police things…

      • Brent G.

        im really disappointed Buoma isn’t playing in this series. How fun would it be to see a line of Jooris, Ferland, Buoma out there with relentless forechecking and bowling through the Canucks.

        As another commenter mentioned, if Buoma and Gio were available for this series, it very likely could be 3-0 Flames right now.

  • gnam

    “the Sedins are responsible for a team persona and culture which makes them Canada’s most hated team.”

    The Sedins??? Yes, modesty, integrity, pacifism, philanthropy, skill and sublime passing are just so eminently hate worthy. You can’t possibly be serious.

    Also, the “Canada’s most hated team” narrative is so boring. It’s 2015, did you just wake up from a 4-year coma?

    Kind of an odd list of players to cite. Pacifists who love skill, like the Sedins and Hansen. Reactionary “old time hockey” lovers, like Bieksa and Dorsett.

    If the Canucks were still a dominant team, they would be hated. They aren’t either anymore.

    • beloch

      I hate the twins, but I respect them because they’re good. They’re really slowing down in third periods this season though, so I probably won’t have to hate them much longer.

      Burrows on the other hand… I hate Burrows because he’s a dirty, diving, no-good, head-hunting pest. Burrows is who has given the Canucks a bad reputation, not the Sedins.

      • mk

        This x 1000. I dislike the Sedins on the ice because they’re damn good players & usually make their opponents pay on the score-sheet. They seem like great guys and are extremely clean players.

        Burrows, Bieksa and Kassian are the real problem with this Canucks team, as Kesler & Lapierre were when they were in town (+ Bertuzzi & Cooke back in the day). Dirty players who are effective at hockey, but their antics give the team a bad rep. I’d argue the Canucks have (in the past) been on the receiving end of bad calls because of the reputation that Burrows et al give the team.

        • everton fc

          Bieksa’s been a warrior for the Canucks for years. I don’t have issues w/him, even though I hate the Canucks. As a fan, of course!

          I also think Dorsett’s effective, and hoped the Flames would take a punt on him the last trade deadline before he went to the Rangers. He can score. He’s like Tootoo, who was a leader with the Devils this season, whilst playing his game, potting 10 goals. Guys like these have value. But they’ll cross the line, at times.

          Cooke, on the other hand, was way out of line.

  • everton fc


    Oh for sure, Burrows is smart. When he sees he’s getting a penalty he tries to goad another opponent to engage him to attempt to draw an offsetting penalty.

    Also, he should expect someone to challenge him for hitting the Flames star rookie. I hate fighting, but as long as it’s allowed Russell did the right thing stepping in to stand up for Gaudreau.

  • slapshot444

    I can’t imagine Burrows being suspended for that (although he is despised by league officials) as Russell went after him and was a willing participant. If anything, Bieksa should have gotten an instigator penalty for going after Ferland (but didn’t as he is adored by league officials).

    Not sure why Burrows got a penalty for body checking Gaudreau. He had the puck and it was shoulder to shoulder.

    All in all, extremely weak game by Canucks. Continually turned the puck over in their zone and had numerous bloopers and flubs.

    • Kybb79

      No way did Russel “go after him”…like…at all..Burrows went straight to Russel and dropped his mitts and started chucking…total instigator.

      Burrows hit JHockey from behind,close to the boards,classic penalty called all year.

      Without being overly emotional or one sided,your team should be without 2 guys for game 3 (Hamhuis and Burrows)

      I was kinda embarrassed about our antics at the end of game 2,but your team was gutless and took it to a lower level

    • Burnward

      You clearly weren’t watching the same game everyone else was. It was very clear that Burrows rushed Russell right after he hit Johnny so nice try there buddy. Blows my mind how delusional all these nuck fans are.. blows my mind….

  • Kybb79

    The number of exclamation marks in this forum is stroke-inducing. Calm the balls down, the game’s over already and we’re nowhere near a conclusion.

    Although if the Canucks keep playing like this we will be soon enough. Might be a good idea to play the Sedins more than the frigging Bonino line. Again.

    See? If I can refrain from exclamations, heck, we all can!