On Thursday’s episode of <a href="https://canucksarmy.com/shows">Canucks Conversation</a>, David Quadrelli and Harman Dayal discussed where the <a href="https://canucksarmy.com/combinations">Vancouver Canucks</a> stand after a flurry of early offseason moves &#8211; and whether fans should expect anything else to come before training camp.
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“The preference as of now is to add that centre they’re still looking for,” Harm said. “Maybe it’s not a top-two guy, but it can be someone who gives you insurance at the 3C role. Their worry is, they’re one bad Filip Chytil hit away from Teddy Blueger or Aatu Räty being in that spot. You don’t want to be in that position for weeks at a time if you’ve got ambitions on a playoff spot.”
He pointed to how Pius Suter played a critical insurance role last season, stepping up when J.T. Miller was out, Pettersson was battling injury, and even Chytil missed time. “The Canucks never had their top two centres available the entire year and that’s where Suter was so valuable,” he said. “Obviously, they don’t have him anymore, so can somebody competently fill in those shoes? Unless Aatu Räty takes a huge step forward, the answer is probably not.”
The main issue, Harm noted, is cap space. “They need to first clear cap space before they can add anyone. Even if someone shakes loose on the trade market- whether it’s a second-line, third-line or depth guy- there’s no guarantee the Canucks win the sweepstakes for that player because so many teams are looking for help down the middle.”
Quads brought up how the front office’s original plan may have shifted. “I believe the plan has changed for the Canucks,” he said. “If they knew they were going to sign Brock Boeser, I don’t think they make the trade for Evander Kane. I also think they would’ve happily re-signed <a href="https://canucksarmy.com/news/which-nhl-teams-vancouver-canucks-free-agent-signing">Pius Suter at two years and $4.125 million</a>.”
Harm agreed. “Re-signing Boeser wasn’t plan A. If it was, you would’ve gotten it done way earlier than waiting until July 1. The Canucks, along with many other buyers around the NHL, have realized it’s way harder to acquire top-of-the-lineup difference-makers than anyone could’ve forecasted. They’ve had to pivot, including Vancouver, which threw the timing and sync of things off. So I can understand why they first acquired Kane knowing they’d possibly lose Boeser. As they continued to make calls and realized they probably couldn’t get the targets they wanted, they circled back to Boeser. Now they didn’t have the cap space to keep Suter.”
The conversation then turned to how difficult it might be for the Canucks to free up money via trade.
“If we’re talking about trading Teddy Blueger or Dakota Joshua,” Quads said, “the Canucks are going to have a tough time getting surplus value for those players. When you see deals where teams have to attach an asset to offload a contract, you don’t want to be on the wrong end of that.”
He added: “If a team is going to acquire Dakota Joshua, it’s probably going to cost the Canucks something to get a team to take on that contract. At that point, I’d rather roll the dice on Joshua having a bounce-back year. The value you’re going to get from Joshua in your lineup next season is going to trump what you’re able to get for him right now on the trade market.”
Quads made the case for patience. “Then you’d have to give up more assets to bring in that centre in a trade. So you’re giving up assets to get off of Joshua’s money, then giving up assets to improve at centre? I’d just wait to make a trade in-season if this team warrants it. If a key contributor for the Canucks sustains a long-term injury next year that results in the team losing a lot of games, well, you’ve already spent your assets and now you’ve got nothing left to do in-season or at the draft.”
You can catch the full conversation on the CanucksArmy YouTube channel.
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On Thursday’s episode of <a href="https://canucksarmy.com/shows">Canucks Conversation</a>, David Quadrelli and Harman Dayal discussed where the <a href="https://canucksarmy.com/combinations">Vancouver Canucks</a> stand after a flurry of early offseason moves - and whether fans should expect anything else to come before training camp.
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“The preference as of now is to add that centre they’re still looking for,” Harm said. “Maybe it’s not a top-two guy, but it can be someone who gives you insurance at the 3C role. Their worry is, they’re one bad Filip Chytil hit away from Teddy Blueger or Aatu Räty being in that spot. You don’t want to be in that position for weeks at a time if you’ve got ambitions on a playoff spot.”

He pointed to how Pius Suter played a critical insurance role last season, stepping up when J.T. Miller was out, Pettersson was battling injury, and even Chytil missed time. “The Canucks never had their top two centres available the entire year and that’s where Suter was so valuable,” he said. “Obviously, they don’t have him anymore, so can somebody competently fill in those shoes? Unless Aatu Räty takes a huge step forward, the answer is probably not.”

The main issue, Harm noted, is cap space. “They need to first clear cap space before they can add anyone. Even if someone shakes loose on the trade market- whether it’s a second-line, third-line or depth guy- there’s no guarantee the Canucks win the sweepstakes for that player because so many teams are looking for help down the middle.”

Quads brought up how the front office’s original plan may have shifted. “I believe the plan has changed for the Canucks,” he said. “If they knew they were going to sign Brock Boeser, I don’t think they make the trade for Evander Kane. I also think they would’ve happily re-signed <a href="https://canucksarmy.com/news/which-nhl-teams-vancouver-canucks-free-agent-signing">Pius Suter at two years and $4.125 million</a>.”

Harm agreed. “Re-signing Boeser wasn’t plan A. If it was, you would’ve gotten it done way earlier than waiting until July 1. The Canucks, along with many other buyers around the NHL, have realized it’s way harder to acquire top-of-the-lineup difference-makers than anyone could’ve forecasted. They’ve had to pivot, including Vancouver, which threw the timing and sync of things off. So I can understand why they first acquired Kane knowing they’d possibly lose Boeser. As they continued to make calls and realized they probably couldn’t get the targets they wanted, they circled back to Boeser. Now they didn’t have the cap space to keep Suter.”

The conversation then turned to how difficult it might be for the Canucks to free up money via trade.

“If we’re talking about trading Teddy Blueger or Dakota Joshua,” Quads said, “the Canucks are going to have a tough time getting surplus value for those players. When you see deals where teams have to attach an asset to offload a contract, you don’t want to be on the wrong end of that.”

He added: “If a team is going to acquire Dakota Joshua, it’s probably going to cost the Canucks something to get a team to take on that contract. At that point, I’d rather roll the dice on Joshua having a bounce-back year. The value you’re going to get from Joshua in your lineup next season is going to trump what you’re able to get for him right now on the trade market.”

Quads made the case for patience. “Then you’d have to give up more assets to bring in that centre in a trade. So you’re giving up assets to get off of Joshua’s money, then giving up assets to improve at centre? I’d just wait to make a trade in-season if this team warrants it. If a key contributor for the Canucks sustains a long-term injury next year that results in the team losing a lot of games, well, you’ve already spent your assets and now you’ve got nothing left to do in-season or at the draft.”

You can catch the full conversation on the CanucksArmy YouTube channel.

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