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Canucks Army Game Day 74 – Canucks Vs. Senators (Workin’ Overtime Edition)

THE INTRO

The Canucks have made a habit of extending their games lately with two shootouts and a quick overtime shift. Tonight, they welcome the Ottawa Senators who haven’t played since Saturday when they shocked the world and crushed the Toronto Maple Leafs 6-2. Heads rolled, jobs were axed and… no, that didn’t happen, but the Sens did win.

Vancouver’s young stars are beginning to turn this team around with the future leadership group of Bo Horvat, Brock Boeser, and Elias Pettersson factoring in on the score sheet more and more. Ottawa has fully embraced its tank to the bottom and sit absolutely dead last in the standings. Sadly, that pick will go to the Colorado Avalanche unless it moves before the Draft.

The last time these two teams met the “Pettersson Game” happened and the way EP40 has approached the game lately, he might in store for yet another majestic performance.

Let’s Do This!™

WHAT ARE THE ODDS?

The odds for tonight’s game are: (VAN -170/OTT +150) courtesy of OddsShark

TV / RADIO / PUCK DROP

SNP / SN 650 / 7:00 PM

LINEUPS

Will Sven Baertschi make his way back into the lineup? Today is yet another opportunity to see if he’s ready. The lineup that won the other night might be ok to run with but if both Baertschi and Ryan Spooner are good to go, expect to see them inserted into the lineup with Nikolay Goldobin and potentially Markus Granlund sitting.

Thatcher Demko needs another start. Especially against a struggling Senators team. Jacob Markstrom has solidified his number one status and like my golf game, Demko needs games to keep himself in the zone or that rust can build.

Canucks lines courtesy of Dailyfaceoff.com:

LW C RW Forwards
Tanner Pearson
TANNER PEARSON

Rating: 71.9#88 LW

Bo Horvat
BO HORVAT

Rating: 75.4#50 C

Loui Eriksson
LOUI ERIKSSON

Rating: 71.2#95 RW

FL1 Rating
Rating: 72.82#31 FL1
Josh Leivo
JOSH LEIVO

Rating: 73.5#55 LW

Elias Pettersson
ELIAS PETTERSSON

Rating: 78.1#31 C

Brock Boeser
BROCK BOESER

Rating: 81.4#5 RW

FL2 Rating
Rating: 77.66#5 FL2
Markus Granlund
MARKUS GRANLUND

Rating: 70.8#146 LW

Adam Gaudette
ADAM GAUDETTE

Rating: 70.9#143 C

Jake Virtanen
JAKE VIRTANEN

Rating: 71.2#94 RW

FL3 Rating
Rating: 70.97#26 FL3
Tim Schaller
TIM SCHALLER

Rating: 70.9#109 LW

Jay Beagle
JAY BEAGLE

Rating: 68.0#187 C

Tyler Motte
TYLER MOTTE

Rating: 70.4#111 RW

FL4 Rating
Rating: 69.75#29 FL4
DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
Alexander Edler
ALEXANDER EDLER

Rating: 75.7#23 LD

Alex Biega
ALEX BIEGA

Rating: 71.5#79 RD

DL1 Rating
Rating: 73.62#24 DL1
Guillaume Brisebois
GUILLAUME BRISEBOIS
Troy Stecher
TROY STECHER

Rating: 73.1#53 RD

DL2 Rating
Rating: 73.05#21 DL2
Ashton Sautner
ASHTON SAUTNER

Rating: 73.0#63 LD

Luke Schenn
LUKE SCHENN

Rating: 68.3#102 RD

DL3 Rating
Rating: 70.66#21 DL3

Thomas Chabot has clearly seen a lot of Chris Tanev game tape and is out with a broken toe after blocking a shot. See kids, let your goalie do the work. His job is literally to stop the puck. Defensemen are there to deter it from getting to the goalie but not outright stop it.

Will it be former Canuck Anders Nilsson or Craig Anderson that gets the start for Ottawa? Canucks fans would love to see Nilsson but at the same time, there’s a good chance he’d slam the door shut on them.

Senators lines courtesy of Dailyfaceoff.com:

LW C RW Forwards
Brady Tkachuk
BRADY TKACHUK

Rating: 74.5#40 LW

Jean-Gabriel Pageau
JEAN-GABRIEL PAGEAU

Rating: 71.5#124 C

Max Veronneau
MAX VERONNEAU
FL1 Rating
Rating: 72.97#29 FL1
Rudolfs Balcers
RUDOLFS BALCERS

Rating: 72.4#78 LW

Chris Tierney
CHRIS TIERNEY

Rating: 71.5#122 C

Magnus Paajarvi
MAGNUS PAAJARVI

Rating: 70.1#123 RW

FL2 Rating
Rating: 71.33#31 FL2
Zack Smith
ZACK SMITH

Rating: 69.4#173 LW

Oscar Lindberg
OSCAR LINDBERG

Rating: 70.8#144 C

Bobby Ryan
BOBBY RYAN

Rating: 71.5#92 RW

FL3 Rating
Rating: 70.56#28 FL3
Anthony Duclair
ANTHONY DUCLAIR

Rating: 71.4#99 LW

Brian Gibbons
BRIAN GIBBONS

Rating: 70.7#153 C

Mikkel Boedker
MIKKEL BOEDKER

Rating: 70.9#104 RW

FL4 Rating
Rating: 70.96#15 FL4
DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
Ben Harpur
BEN HARPUR

Rating: 67.3#132 LD

Dylan DeMelo
DYLAN DEMELO

Rating: 71.0#87 RD

DL1 Rating
Rating: 69.13#31 DL1
Christian Wolanin
CHRISTIAN WOLANIN

Rating: 73.1#60 LD

Cody Ceci
CODY CECI

Rating: 70.3#91 RD

DL2 Rating
Rating: 71.67#28 DL2
Mark Borowiecki
MARK BOROWIECKI

Rating: 67.7#131 LD

Christian Jaros
CHRISTIAN JAROS

Rating: 69.0#100 RD

DL3 Rating
Rating: 68.34#31 DL3

 

YOUR INFORMATIONAL NEEDS FOR TONIGHT’S GAME

  • Pettersson is looking to continue his minor point streak to four games. He currently has five points in six games but he’s doing so many other things right now that lead us to believe he’s due for one final surge. Not the Hurricanes kind with the curling and the duck-duck-goose. He’s all but locked up the Calder now and has passed Pavel Bure as the best Canucks rookie ever. Things are looking up for EP40.
  • Since the beginning of February, both the Senators and Canucks have been pretty stingy on the PK. Ottawa (88.3%) and Vancouver (85.2%) are 4th and 10th respectively on the penalty kill. For the Canucks, this is a sign they can play a bit more free-spirited, sometimes undisciplined and can afford to be down a man whereas the Senators just can’t make any more mistakes and yet they don’t seem to be suffering. Vancouver’s PP won’t get very far tonight but it wouldn’t hurt to test it out.
  • Pettersson and Boeser had themselves a game the last time they took on the Senators. The advanced stats were most definitely in their favor. Their combined CF% of 75.86, SF% of 71.43 and GF% of 100 happened in 10:25 of 5v5 ice time. Those numbers aren’t necessarily sustainable but a few notches below that would still be welcome on any team.
  • Vancouver has been taking more shots but they’ve missed a bunch as well. Since Feb 1, the Canucks have the third-most missed shots in the NHL with 303. Believe it or not, that’s promising. They struggled to get shots on net to begin the season and last year they weren’t known for even trying to shoot. They still seem to be waiting for that perfect lane and at this point in the season, they just need to be shooting first figuring it out after.
  • Jake Virtanen can still hit 20 goals this season but it will take a lot of hard work. Tonight would be a game where two goals would go a long way, combined with a goal every other game or so. As stated earlier this season, it’s been many moons since the Canucks had four 20-goal scorers. Don’t be on it but don’t be surprised either. #growth

MY 94 CENTS

The Senators aren’t a very scary team but that’s what scares me the most. Vancouver has this thing where they play down to their opponent and Ottawa is the downdest of them all. Elias Pettersson and Brock Boeser are both on their respective games as of late so a repeat of their dominance could easily happen.

I like the Canucks chances tonight, but then again I liked the Avengers chances in Infinity War and look how that turned out.

THE TWITTER TAKE

  • pheenster01

    Nilsson has been excellent since moving to Ottawa.

    Dahlen has been lights out since joining the Sharks org.

    McCann has been lights out since heading to Pittsburgh via Fla.

    Even Gudbranson is a plus 4 and aone man wrecking ball since joining the Pens.

    Hmm… funny that… isn’t it. #firebenning #dysfunctionalcanucks

        • Goon

          And in a four-game stretch before that he was above a point a game. That’s why sample size is important.

          McCann’s had a totally respectable season overall – not amazing, but not bad either.

          • Dank22

            He’s played a majority of the time as a winger with Crosby and Guentzel. That’s going to make any average player look good. Guys are always going to look better playing on better teams.

          • North Van Halen

            McCann had 18 points in 46 games for Florida. Is that good?! That seems ummm. pedestrian at best.

            I’d also like to remind all those missing Dahlen so much, in Hunter Shinkaruk’s draft +3 season he had 39 points and 21 goal in 45 games. .87 ppg and .47 gpg. Well ahead of Dahlen’s point and goal totals. Shinkaruk is 1 inch taller, the same weight and wasn’t regarded as too slow but sure, we just lost the next coming of Filip Forsberg.

          • Goon

            18 points in 46 games for a young 3rd line centre is perfectly respectable. It’s a 30-point pace over a full season, which is what you want to see from your middle-six players in their early-20s.

          • Goon

            Also, in regards to Dahlen, I think you’re missing the point somewhat. Disregarding obvious troll’s obvious trolling, the concern with the Dahlen trade isn’t that Benning traded away a sure-fire top-six player (though many around these parts seemed to think that’s what he was right up until the day he was traded, and then he miraculously became terrible). It’s that he traded a player with a reasonable chance of making the NHL for one with almost no chance of making the NHL. Prospects are bets, and it looks like Benning made a bad one.

            As for Dahlen’s attitude, Benning has a history of using that reasoning for giving up on talented young players. In contrast, Doug Wilson in San Jose seeks out those sorts of problem players with tonnes of talent, puts them in a good environment where are expected to mature, and reaps the rewards.

          • North Van Halen

            Certainly not a difference maker. He’s a replacement level, average 3rd line centre who’s presence on the roster won’t tip the scales anymore than Tanner Pearson’s will.
            This is literally almost 3 year old spilled milk. Is there a point where we can let this go and move on or does the horse’s rotted carcass need a few more whacks so you can make sure it’s dead.
            I guess if there had been another bad trade in the 3 years since you’d have a new target, but since there hasn’t actually been one, we just gotta hold on to those same old complaints.

          • North Van Halen

            No, you are missing the point. You don’t know who will be better in 3 years, you are guessing but as always, to the negative. Benning, Cull, Johansson, Brackett, just watched 3/4 of a season from Dahlen up close and deemed him expendable, Pronman thinks the exact same They have been right more often on guys that age than wrong, so I will wait and see.
            To say Karlsson has no chance is ridiculous, it’s literally projecting a negative outlook on the trade because you don’t like Benning. Curious, what the Prospect grading Davis had here was for Gaudette, Madden & MacEwen…about the same as Karlsson I suspect.

          • North Van Halen

            And I’m actually really curious, other than Evander Kane who had already scored 30 in the show, please list those players Wilson:
            ‘seeks out those sorts of problem players with tonnes of talent, puts them in a good environment where are expected to mature, and reaps the rewards.’
            Which players from their present roster fall into that category?

          • Goon

            Neither of us know exactly what either Dahlen or Karlsson will be in three years time – I don’t understand why you think you can definitively say Dahlen is bad and Karlsson will be good, and then criticize others for simply talking about odds and gambles. That makes absolutely no sense.

            Also, I don’t think you know what “projecting” or “replacement level” mean.

          • North Van Halen

            I have never once said Karlsson is better than Dahlen or that Vancouver has won the trade. What I have said at least a dozen times in the last 2 weeks is you, me, JD, Ryan, Pronman, and everyone else have NO IDEA who won this trade and anyone saying definitively otherwise is full of arrogant BS.
            It just gets me aggravated that all the haters write as if it’s fait accompli and the trade is a bust when thats just not true on any level.

      • Goon

        In Utica he scored 29 points in 50 games for a .58ppg pace.
        In San Jose he’s scored 4 in 7 for a… wait for it…

        .57ppg pace.

        Its almost like he’s a rounding error away from being the exact same player in San Jose as he was in Utica.

      • pheenster01

        “Dahlen has played pretty well in his first season in North America (14 goals, 33 points in 56 games) and it’s baffling that the Canucks, an organization that lacks offensive depth, would move on from this young player so quickly. Regardless of their reasoning, the Sharks have added another nice piece to their ever-growing prospect pool and Dahlen already has 4 points in 6 games for the Barracuda.” – San Jose Press

        Keep living in denial and drinking the koolaid though…

        • Killer Marmot

          So I take it you concede that Dahlen has not been “lights out” for the Barracuda, but instead he’s been rather typical given his season so far.

        • North Van Halen

          Yes the next time I need prospect evaluations I’m going straight to the bible, the ‘San Jose Free Press’. I hope Benning & Co. has a subscription to their in-depth analysis.
          Meantime when Corey Pronman (you know a prospect expert) was asked if the Canucks gave up on Dahlen too soon, his word for word quote, “No, he’s nothing special.” NEEXXXXTTTT!!

          • Killer Marmot

            Given Dahlen’s recent complaints about Utica and another episode about 18 months ago, there are hints that Dahlen is high maintenance. Given the emphasis that the organization places on player maturity and professionalism, it may have been a bad fit.

          • Wiseguy

            I said it in a another article, my gut feeling is he is high maintenance and one day maybe JB will pull a MG(Hodgson) and we will find out. I remember quotes form the last few years kind of showing how involved Dahlens dads was in everything and was instrumental in his return to Sweden last year, perhaps Young Dahlen has a father and agent listening to his complaints or realizing he may not be that good and constantly pushing the management team of the present for well you get my drift. Just my thoughts is all…

          • PotKettleBlack

            Yeah keep lickin those ‘Pronman’ windows dim wit hypocrite…

            “I like Pronman though I almost always disagree with his rankings” – North Van Halen

            and keep throwin’ Dahlen under the bus after raving…

            “so you’re saying because Burrows & Dahlen were available in the expansion draft we shoudn’t acknowledge that it was a great trade for the franchise.” – NVH

            Hahhaha – Remember when NVH couldn’t *wait* for Dahlin to play wing with Petey again… I do. NEEEXTTTTTTTTTTT!

          • North Van Halen

            Finally I feel like I’ve made it. You’re not truly part of the Canuck’s Army message board until PQW/Petey40/Mattyt/PotkettleBlack/WestVanBetty/EastVanCanuck has gone back a year or more to find a way to discredit you. I’m literally grinning ear to ear right now. That was even better than I thought and everything I’ve waited for.
            Thanks man. You’re still epically wrong about almost everything and totally crazy but I truly admire your determination (just try to keep the homphobic slurs and personal insults to a minimum).

          • Locust

            North Van. Good for you man. Its like when some Alt-Right Nazi Wackjob lashes out at you, actually makes you feel good and on the right side of things.
            Notice that so many of us are now ignoring him, he isn’t doing his run-on loser tirades. Its even funnier when he comments now ….. and tries to be a normal person. A 3 dressed up as a 9 hahaha!

    • Wiseguy

      Nilsson – wasn’t even average for us with a couple years of service and to say he is lights out in Ottawa with such a small number of games is premature at best.
      Dahlen – Lights out in SJ, where did you read this? I read most recently he was demoted to the 4th line, dude we have a different definition of lights out
      McCann – hmmm nothing says lights out about his entire career and most recently he has been playing with Crosby, not sure what your definition is again but its weak.
      Guddy – Now he has been playing better on a top shelf team which would be expected for almost anyone new but damn am I happy for him and hope he keeps it up.

      • pheenster01

        Umm McCann wouldn’t be playing on the same line as Crosby if he wasn’t lights out ffs… you know, that 3 time Stanley Cup winner and the best player in the world over the last decade. Not so WISE are ya.

        • Wiseguy

          Is this a serious comment or troll? do you forget how many wingers the Sedins had over their careers? where they all playing lights out to get that spot or was it the coach looking for answers sometimes?

  • Kootenaydude

    Somewhere out the fans are getting excited that the Canucks might win three in a row. Of course these same fans will be wondering why our first overall draft selection sucks this year. If we keep this up. We could just miss the playoffs. Lucky us.

  • El Kabong

    Its really starting to piss me off to see Goldie scratched when guys like Eriksson and Schaller get minutes they certainly don’t deserve. At the very very least we should be pumping up Goldies stats, like they did with Hodgeson, so they can extract trade value if he has no future here.

    • Kootenaydude

      Goldy has a contract coming up. Easier to sign him for cheap if you don’t play him. Hopefully Schaller getting played to make him easier to move in the summer.

    • Killer Marmot

      Schaller has only played 10 out of the last 38 games (that is, since the middle of December). You have to play your extra forwards from time to time, or they’re not much good when you really need them.

    • DogBreath

      What has Goldie done since the start of the new year to warrant being in the lineup (other than show a few flashes of the player he could be). By being put with Pettersson, he’s been put in a position to succeed but has delivered next to nothing. At some point this matters, especially when you’re largely a one dimensional offensive player with very few points to show in the last half season.