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Canucks Army Monday Mailbag: July 9th

Would Markus Granlund be a decent rental at the trade deadline? Certainly. He’s relatively young at 24-years-old, can provide secondary offence, play all three forward positions and impact his team’s shot metrics positively from each. He’s also not a traditional rental because there are a handful of years of team control left with Granlund. Even if the team that acquired him couldn’t afford his services for next season, they’d have ample opportunity to deal him themselves in the offseason.

These reasons also work as justification for the Canucks keeping Granlund — and Sven Baertschi for that matter. I don’t think the Canucks have to trade every player past the age of 23. Granlund’s earned a raise over his last contract, but I doubt he’ll price himself out of the Canucks’ future.

I feel the same way about Alex Kerfoot today as I did the last time we broached the topic of his pending unrestricted free agency in this space. If Kerfoot hits free agency, the Canucks should try and sign him. I doubt he fits into their NHL roster — they don’t have enough space for the players they already have without his addition.

There’s no telling whether this impacts Kerfoot’s willingness to join the Canucks or not. I think we’ve been spoiled a bit with the recent crops of college free agents. It isn’t a default expectation that they’ll play in the NHL the year after they sign. If Kerfoot needs a year in the AHL, and that’s certainly a possibility, then maybe this is a complete non-issue.

I wouldn’t rule out Brock Boeser scoring 20 goals as a possibility. Boeser was just so damn impressive in a short sample nursing a wrist injury — imagine what he can do in ideal circumstances.

I’m sure the comments section will love my answer…

Let’s see the Sedin twins and Loui Eriksson get another go. They controlled north of 55% of shot attempts at even strength last season if memory serves, and that’s just downright dominant. They weren’t terribly threatening to start the season but appeared to pick up chemistry near the end of that experiment. I’m betting on an Eriksson bounce-back season, and I think the best way to get that is playing him with the Sedin twins. They just might benefit, too.

In my mind, analytics is the collection, parsing and testing of as much data as humanly possible to arrive at the best conclusions. In that sense, analytics can help out in almost any field — to some extent. We’ve seen some pretty significant advances in goaltender analytics, and I think they’ve helped myself and others understand the position just a little bit better — I’m sure the same applies to the goaltenders themselves.

There is absolutely a backlash against analytics going on with the Florida Panthers. That much is obvious. I don’t think that’s the case in Arizona, though. What reason do we have to believe that Rick Tocchet is anti-analytics? I’d add that most of what the Coyotes have done this offseason passes the analytics sniff test.

I answered the Boeser question, in a way, just a couple paragraphs back. As for Olli Juolevi, his quality as a player suggests to me he should be in the NHL next season. I’m just not sure there’s a fit anymore with the amount of NHL defenders the Canucks have added in free agency.









I have a hard time seeing any surprise rookies cracking the Canucks’ roster next season. There just aren’t enough openings. I don’t know if Griffen Molino qualifies, but if he does, perhaps he’s the “random” rookie to crack the lineup? The Canucks want speed, and oh, he has plenty to burn.

Honestly, I don’t know if I’m qualified to make that judgement call. I’ve yet to see any conclusive data to suggest which option is better for the player in this situation or ones similar to it. I’m going to let Jonathan Dahlen and the Canucks decide what’s best for his development and leave it at that. I’ve no strong opinion one way or the other.

Brandon Sutter staying healthy probably isn’t the key to a successful Canucks season. He was healthy most of last season, and just didn’t play that well. Same goes for a lot of the Canucks’ roster. This team doesn’t fall short because of injuries — they fall short because they’re a poorly built team.

I’ve been fairly high on Jalen Chatfield since the Canucks signed him, but I think it’s time we were a little more realistic about what he is and isn’t as a prospect. When the Canucks signed Chatfield, pGPS gave him an Exp. Success percentage in single digits. I like what I see from Chatfield and see qualities in his game that could translate to the NHL. The reality is, he’s a long, long, long shot if there ever was one. I could see him cracking the Canucks in the next three years; I just don’t think it’s the most likely outcome.

Whether Chatfield develops into a full-time NHL defenceman or not shouldn’t impact whether the Canucks trade Chris Tanev or not. They should trade Tanev independent of who is or isn’t there to replace him immediately. I suppose from the Canucks point of view that sort of thing matters, but it really shouldn’t. Thinking that Tanev stops the floodgates is just sheer denial in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. Let’s call a spade a spade –

– the Canucks are going to get shelled most nights with or without Tanev for the next few years.

What: A somewhat useful fourth liner who punches faces on a regrettable contract.

Where: Vancouver

How: See: “What.”

Nico Hischier.

Nikita Tryamkin. And my reasoning is that he’s the only one I’m confident can hack it in the NHL.

None, whatsoever.

Sure. I’m not sure what that entails, but it sounds good to me.

It’s different on a case-to-case basis. It certainly can’t hurt to be there a while.

They’re probably somewhere just outside the top ten.

My mind changed on Adam Gaudette a long time ago. The Canucks proved me wrong with that pick, indeed. I could see Gaudette being a Craig Smith type. A player who plays in every situation, at every position, and scores in a middle six role.

I’m going to meet your question with a few of my own.

Are you planning on acknowledging that Canucks Army collectively spent hundreds if not thousands of hours watching tape, reviewing scouting reports, scouting players live and building proprietary draft analytics to get to a point where we could write about our top 100 prospects of the NHL Entry Draft? That doesn’t even cover the time we spent consulting with each other on our lists, much less the writing of the articles themselves. That wrapped up just a couple weeks ago.

To follow that up, two of us went to cover the NHL Draft in person, in Chicago. Canucks Army had an article for every single draft pick. We spoke with the team and provided content based on everything they shared with us. Will you acknowledge this?

As an aside, I should add that Ryan Biech and Jeremy Davis were, in fact, at the Canucks’ Development Camp in person for much of the week. We didn’t ignore the event. We had boots on the ground, in fact.

I’d ask, too, that you acknowledge that, for most of us, this is a second or third job. In some cases, Canucks Army writers have families to take care of, too. If we let up a bit for Development Camp, I’m not ready to apologize. You’re very welcome.

  • Killer Marmot

    I have a hard time seeing any surprise rookies cracking the Canucks’ roster next season. There just aren’t enough openings. I don’t know if Griffen Molino qualifies, but if he does, perhaps he’s the “random” rookie to crack the lineup? The Canucks want speed, and oh, he has plenty to burn.

    The case for Molino is that he enjoys the defensive game, and is said to be an excellent penalty killer. If his PK is of NHL caliber then he could mitigate the loss of Burrows and Hansen, and make the fourth line even more of a shut-down proposition alongside Gaunce.

  • Development camp and the the prospects game that followed, has more interest to me than the top 100 prospects articles wriiten by CA writers for all Nations, not just CA. Next year, let others write the top 100 and CA writers focus on the Vancouver Canucks. One writer from each network would be best.

    • Waffles

      The entire prospects game is available to watch on the Canucks’ Facebook page. The CA writers are uniquely positioned to do the top prospect articles due to their backgrounds that other Nation sites may not have available to them. I agree that outside of the top 15-20 prospect articles that the development camp is more interesting to me, but it wasn’t hard to find other sources when these guys needed a well deserved break.

    • With all due respect, because you’ve traditionally been a very respectful commenter, we didn’t do the Top 100 just for you, we did them for fans and analysts across the league. And we did them ourselves because we feel that no one would do them better. The draft is our bread and butter and we’re not outsourcing our best content. Frankly, the suggestion is insulting.

      • TD

        Jeremy and the rest of CA. I thought the top 100 was excellent and you all deserve credit for what you did. While I would have loved more content on the development camp, that’s more because of the lack of any other interesting sports at this time of year. Thanks for the articles, while I don’t always agree with some of the negativity (not usually from Jeremy or Ryan), most of us Canucks fans appreciate all the work you put into the site as a secondary job.

          • KCasey

            Jer buddy, dont be saying such tom foolery. You and Ryan are the life blood of this site and thats in no way any disrepect to JD or Jackson or any of the staff here who all put in the hours to provide us with content on a daily based even now in the dog days of summer. That top 100 list was off the charts in regards to quality of work and over all volume of content. The only reason I would accept you, Ryan or JD stepping away from this platform is to move into analytics/scouting capacity with a NHL franchise (preferably canucks), and without gasing you all up too much, I truly dont think thats to far off considering the work ethic and proprietary systems you guys are developing and utilizing. One could only imagine what you guys could do with the stats and information available to NHL clubs. Keep at amigo.

          • Charlie y

            Um, sorry to be a buzz kill, but from what I’ve read, there is a tradition of hating on the staff here. Are you sure the member has permission to be positive?

      • Bud Poile

        To be honest,I glossed over 95% of the picks.
        All that hard work must have been performed for analysts as most fans here didn’t even really start responding up until the mid-30’s.
        As a fan,the draft is a major yearly highlight but the prospects game is the cherry of that highlight.
        Record attendance both online and at the game speaks to it’s relevance for Canucks fans.

        • Waffles

          I thought the prospect profiles were very interesting. As regular fans we don’t know much of anything that isn’t spoon fed to us by the mainstream media, so most of us wouldn’t have even heard of most of those prospects that weren’t pegged to go in the first round. It’s not like we would have much more to add to all of the in-depth analysis CA already provided in the profiles, which would explain why there were less comments after the mid-30’s. The higher picks are discussed on several media outlets so fans have more to say since there is more information on the marketplace. That doesn’t mean the ones with less posts weren’t as well-read. I literally could not get that kind of consolidated, in-depth analysis anywhere else on the internet, especially at such a high level of quality. Several other media sites recognized the massive project CA was undertaking. They even spent an additional two hours or so in the CA Podcast discussing each prospect in the Top 100. You could tell these guys were getting exhausted, but absolutely loved doing it. When I was watching the draft, I had their consolidated rankings open on my second screen to see where these guys were going in relation to CA’s order. Having read 80-90% of the profiles myself, I thought they were fantastic. This was the first year I could watch the draft and not be entirely ignorant to the picks being made after the top 30.

          And to clarify my earlier post, where I rank my personal interest level in the Canucks’ development camp is irrelevant to the fact that your Top 100 project was appreciated and well received. I was surprised the development camp wasn’t covered, but I just found coverage elsewhere since it was basically just a pick up game anyways. There wasn’t really a point to complain about it, except to piss CA off and waste their time. I wouldn’t be surprised if other NHL content producers try to mimic what CA did with their Top 100 project, but I doubt they could pull it off as well as CA did. Excellent work CA!

    • Dirk22

      This is absurd. Complaining about getting the most in depth prospect coverage out there for free. What is wrong with you? I pay for Pronman’s draft list and it’s half as detailed.

      Lots of little tidbits out there about development camp but it’s all pretty straightforward. Here’s a recap..they did the grind, (player A) has gained weight, (player B) needs another year of conditioning and the Canucks are really excited about (player C’s) progress.

  • A province article has said that if Benning thinks Dahlen is ready for the NHL, he goes to Utica. If not, he’ll go back to Sweden, possibly with Pettersson. Personally, I think it would be fun to send him back to Sweden either way and see what Pettersson/Dahlen can do in the SHL.

      • TD

        I don’t think seniority is the deciding factor for ice time in the SEL. It is a high quality league that is not there to provide developmental opportunities. If the player is good enough they will play. If they are weak physically or have an incomplete game that costs the team, they won’t play.

      • Neil B

        Seniority does play a role in ice-time in the SHL (as it does, to be honest, in the NHL as well). That’s a big part of why Pettersson’s ice-time and production was so remarkable. Having at least partially broken through that barrier last season, I doubt it would be more in force during the upcoming one.

  • Ragnarok Ouroboros

    CanucksArmy is my favorite canucks new website by a country mile. I think it’s easy for readers to forget that the writers are not getting rich from this site, and as stated this is a second or third job for them. Keep up the good work, and I look forward to more fine articles from you.

  • Chris the Curmudgeon

    Hard to believe there are still people out there who think that the team’s success somehow hinges on Sutter’s health. Can you imagine the 2012 version of this team lamenting over how their season’s results would depend on Maxim Lapierre’s health?

    • TD

      Any success the Canucks could have right now depends on everyone’s health. Once you get past the starting line-up (maybe the third line), there are no legitimate NHL players for call up.

      On a side note, the loss of Malhotra was a huge loss for the Canucks in 2011. While he returned for a limited role in the finals, his loss and that of Hamhuis were injuries that the Canucks couldn’t overcome in the final. No guarantee they win if those players weren’t injured, but they would definitely have been a better team.

      • JMoney

        Agreed. I think Sutter’s health is relevant – not because he’s some kind of world-beater when healthy, but because he can be a useful player and his absence affects the minutes/deployment of other players, especially Bo Horvat.

  • I am Ted

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  • Sandpaper

    I am not into the analytics end and am more of a traditionalist, but I enjoy reading the articles you guys have pumped out. The pre-draft articles were great, as we’re the articles on the picks the Canucks made.
    If people are upset about no coverage of development camp, they are nit-picking.
    As far as I am concerned no apologies are necessary.
    Keep up the good work.

  • Fred-65

    The trade deadline talk about Baertschi/Granlund is I suppose a possibility but I don’t think season ticket holders would enjoy stripping the team down to zero entertainment value. The Canucks is going to be a hard enough sell already. I doubt apart from visits from the Leafs/Mtl there will be any sell outs this season. That’s aside I see good things from Granlund but IMO Baertschi has reached the top of his game. On a good team he’d be a third line player and not the sought a play-off team is looking for

  • livininvic

    “I’d ask, too, that you acknowledge that, for most of us, this is a second or third job. In some cases, Canucks Army writers have families to take care of, too. If we let up a bit for Development Camp, I’m not ready to apologize. You’re very welcome.”

    I want my money back!

      • Mike

        Ok first off you guys do get pay to produce this site, either through advertising or exposure to other media outlets, this site is produced to further your interests as well as your passion, otherwise you would be like us, blog commenters, so while you work your assessment off it is in your interest to bring stories that are relevant to this market to bear. I was surprised by the tone the writer took with the comments at the end of the article, it’s quite childish actually. A basic fu to everyone who is looking for coverage regarding the prospects available to the Canucks for evaluation. Having two beat writers at camp and covering the game should have provided an opportunity for in depth analysis. It’s disappointing that with your stable of writers you could not muster up any in depth look at our prospect stable. I come to this site because of the quality of the writing. But when someone asks a legitimate question and the writer berates them it’s not a good look, and makes me want to read opinions on the Canucks elsewhere. The author lost my respect with his critique at the end of this article. Everyone has jobs and everyone has passions they pour their time and effort into. We appreciate it as the numerous comments and responses from many of the stories should prove to you. Be more professional.

        • Dear Mike,

          You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about. You don’t know what we get paid, you can’t possibly comprehend how many hours and how much effort goes into what we do. I guarantee you no one here is doing is for the money – the very idea is laughable. There’s a difference between asking a legitimate question and being a smartass. Of course we knew the development camp was happening.

          I am currently putting together a series of posts on the Canucks prospects, pouring more hours into it between working full time and raising two young children, and feedback like this makes me not want to bother. Frankly, anyone who shares your opinions strikes me as entitled and spoiled by the content provided here. Show some respect, or go somewhere else. I highly recommend the work Daniel Wagner has done surrounding the Development Camp.

          • Mike

            Jeremy, I didn’t feed you any disrespect, there was a littany of veiled compliments about CA’s work in my above comments, I made the comment that you guys have a professional interest in posting to this site and keeping content updated the proof is from the following excerpt from a Thomas France article: We’re now up to eight former contributors who have gone on to full-time roles in the industry. Two of those contributors are now full-time media hacks, including myself and Vancouver Province digital editor Patrick Johnston. Five of those contributors have gone on to full-time jobs with NHL-level organizations, including Dimitri Filipovic, Cam Charron, Rob Pettapiece, and now Weissbock and Money Puck. Another former site editor, Rhys Jessop, is currently working in an analyst role with the Vancouver Giants of the WHL. This list should also include Jeff patterson, Sat and oh Thomas drance. People write for CA because you guys are thought of as respected, and this respect has afforded your members the ability to be noticed and to showcase there work. As much as it’s a passion it’s in your self interest to continue to provide content because it leads to better jobs for the contributors of this network / blog (what would you characterize it as), these are some of the reasons why the content is so good but it’s a two way street for you and your contributors, it’s beneficial for all. Don’t think that I don’t appreciate all the hard work, but be honest your providing content to promote yourself as much as your initial reasons here. Pheenster is correct the expectations have been increased due to your success. My only comment was that the professionalism of the author is lacking when you berate readers, and swear at them. Its unbecoming of a network that is trying to be respected. Also I agree with pheenster, to have no content was a little weird but I understand from the comments that you put in a ton of effort. Like I said though if you guys are aiming for respect you should try and embody that when speaking to your readers.

          • Mike,

            I apologize for losing it a bit yesterday. It’s honestly a very frustrating situation for us. We are well aware of the history of our site, and the successful careers that it has launched. We’re also well aware of the expectations that our continued hard work and well received content creates. Unfortunately for us, neither of those things affects how we are compensated. As much as we try to produce content like a premium blog, the fact of the matter is that we will never be able to keep up. The network simply doesn’t have the resources. It becomes a little disheartening to see some posters suggest that we should have outsourced to draft content in order to cover the development camp, or that we weren’t smart enough to take advantage of an obvious opportunity. But you’re right about the two-way respect factor. Regrettably, I agree that you’ll have to adjust your expectations accordingly. If there were ever to be a premium, Athletic-style outlet in Vancouver, then rest assured, the sky would be the limit. Until then, we’ll do what we can within the constraints we are in.

      • pheenster

        Come on Jeremy. Prospects is what you guys do. Yes covering the draft was a big deal and you guys did excellent work. But in the Canucks world, the mini-camp and prospects game were significant prospect related events (in the top 3 events of the year along with the draft and YoungStars, not to mention the fact that it was, y’know, in Vancouver) and not to post a single article on the topic is, quite frankly, weird. Especially since according to Twitter a lot of you guys where there. And especially since our prospect pool is its best shape in 15 years.

        The other thing I don’t get is why all you guys are so crabby about this. If it was an editorial call, it was a bad one. You’re gonna get criticized for it. If you want to be a considered a significant voice in the Canucks media lineup (and you guys are closer than many people, including myself, ever thought you’d get) then criticism of this nature comes with the territory. Heat, kitchen, etc.

        The other other thing I don’t get is why you wouldn’t want to cover this. Given your knowledge of the subject area you could have eaten everyone else’s lunch and yet chose not to. Also weird.

        • It wasn’t an editorial call, it was simply a matter of time and resources. In order to provide you and the other readers with all of that draft content FREE OF CHARGE, I had to take a ton of time off work, and now I’m feeling a tremendous financial crunch, since, sorry to break it to you, the money we get paid is far from livable. We WANTED to cover it. Ryan and I had intended to write coverage on the invitees and simply ran out of time. And we’re expected to apologize for it.

          As for your heat, kitchen comment, this is about the equivalent of standings in a sweltering kitchen for 6 weeks while getting paid in potatoes, and then having the patrons come and complain that they didn’t get dessert after eating for free for a month and a half. I’m no stranger to complaints and insults in the comments section, which I’ve absolutely come to expect, but I’ve never felt this disrespected, and frankly it makes me not want to provide another word of free content.

          • pheenster

            Dude, it’s not meant as disrespect. The opposite, actually. Like I said, you’ve gone from being those nerds talking about stats to an important part of the media landscape. With that comes expectations. If you guys would rather be thought of as bloggers whose readers should just be happy with whatever you post, then I’ll adjust my expectations accordingly. But I don’t think you do.

            Sounds to me like CA and its editorial staff are reaching a bit of a crossroads. Doing good work takes funding. If the Nation Network isn’t going to fund content creation, then it’s going to remain just a blog. And believe me, for the NN point of view I get how hard it is to make money in the media. It’s why I chose a different path a long time ago. For CA, if this thing is going to remain primarily a labour of love, you need to set expectations accordingly.

            To a certain extent you’re victims of your own success. You guys did a great job on the draft and free agency, and for my part I thought that would continue. To get nothing but dead air on the prospects game was actually a little jarring. But there should be a lesson for you in your responses. If you had posted something up saying that you guys had basically blown your load on the draft and free agency, and that there wasn’t anything left in the tank for the prospects game, most people would have understood. Posting snotty responses in Monday Mailbag and swearing at people in the comments section probably wasn’t the best way to go about it. Just saying.

          • I am Ted

            Jeremy, let’s make one thing clear here. I spew a lot of venom out here but let’s be clear: it’s usually aimed at one blogger and his poor attitude. It seems now he is removing negative comments directed his way.

            I enjoy the content here and I know the bloggers aren’t perfect. That is fine with me. What gets me is the attitude of certain bloggers and how they feel they know better despite constantly proving the opposite.

            Anyway, I do think your stuff is solid. You’re humble, not snarky and provide good info. Your ‘colleague’ could learn from you.

            Anyway, I know I don’t say it enough but thanks for all you do. Same goes to the rest of the bloggers here.

      • detox

        Goes to show the expectations regardless of the tone of the posters. You guys must be doing something right. You do have a ton of content.
        at least we aren’t biatching about having the wrong lineup posted for a game. 😉

        • Riley Miner

          Apologies, as I’ll probably go on a rant here. Pheenster, Mike… Respectfully, get over yourselves. CanucksArmy is a blog, their writers are not paid like professionals and don’t have the professional obligation to cover every event; they’ve covered most of the signees at that game extensively and the invitees didn’t impress enough in my personal opinion to warrant any ink spilled. So where does that leave us? Without an article. Should we go pester the writers asking where our coverage went? Of course not. There’s been weeks of hard work done into the draft on all parts and if you feel selfish enough that you want to demand personal coverage, maybe click onto another blog for a read instead of chastising this one for underperforming the expectations that come with the ‘mighty CA brand’.

          The responses reek of soiled diapers, to be frank. I will repeat myself, they’re not professional writers. They are paid well enough that they have both the responsibility and resources to create on a more consistent basis, I don’t know the precise payroll of CA staff but I sure as hell doubt they don’t get paid like a newspaper writer, and that’s not due to a gap in quality nor quantity. Was the development camp really that interesting that we’re outraged that we missed CanucksArmy coverage when the Province, Pass It To Bulis and TSN 1040 covered it already? It’s not like Justin Parizek or Nick Isaacson were imminent signees, nor blew the doors off at training camp. As someone so elegantly said earlier about the Top 100 prospects, they’re not going to be Canucks property, so what’s the point? Even Bob McKenzie gets to be Bobby Margarita when all is said and done, why don’t we give them a little slack for a season’s gruelingly hard work?

  • LouSlips

    JD, to be honest, my tweet initially started with saying how great your coverage up until the dev camp had been, but there’s only so much space in a tweet.

    You guys did a great job, and to be honest, the only reason it seemed like there was something missing was because we had been getting so much daily content for so long, including extra podcasts and all that. Just that the dev camp is a little more interesting than Joe Labate being resigned and Holm’s waiver eligibility.

    • Ragnarok Ouroboros

      I love the content produced on this site, especially into the dog days of summer when I’m really craving Canucks and hockey information. Their draft coverage was outstanding and I guess we all came to expect they would have more coverage of the development camp. I’m guessing the writers are just a little burned out right now from their hard work and perhaps JD was just having a bad day when he posted his comments. He is usually quite well spoken and is probably second guessing the tone he used in his response. Overall, no big deal. I look forward to more articles. Especially, regarding rumours of Tanev to Toronto.

  • TD

    I’m interested in seeing what Granlund can do this year. He probably would have gotten 20 or more if he hadn’t been injured. He showed he could succeed on either of the PP units. The wrist injury that led to the season ending surgery has apparently been a problem since he was in the Flames organization. Does he have another gear? Can he become a similar player to his brother? If his injury hampered is stick handling or shot, or caused him to have a lack of confidence in front of the net or in traffic, then he could have a break through this season. He certainly showed some flashes this past season that would indicate he has more to offer.

  • Peezy F

    The two or three days in March that Loui Bo and Bae played together looked really great too before Loui knee was taken out. I would love to see Boeser with Sedins to give them a highly skilled right shot winger for the first time in their careers and Loui with Bo and Bae, kind of like a more talented offensively and defensively responsible winger than Alex Burrows was, to anchor that line.

  • TheRealPB

    Well that escalated quickly…

    Man this is a tough room. For what it’s worth I thought you guys did an outstanding job with the prospect ratings and I totally disagree that it was only interesting to look at the top 30 or so. There’s only so much disagreement about 1st and 2nd round picks (*cringe*Virtanen*cringe*); it’s really those mid-round picks that you can strike unexpected gold on. And for that reason I found some of the profiles really interesting and I really appreciate the effort put into doing those.

    I really don’t get the whining about not getting our development camp fix instantly. There are other news sources and it’s fairly easy to go and see them. I will be the first to get irritated with post-game recaps and game-day previews that are mailed in, or the thousandth article about the team’s wrong direction, but this just seems like a weird and entitled thing to be outraged over.

    Also, I completely agree that Eriksson should get a decent look on the Twins’ wing. Of all of WD’s weird moves, the constant revolving doors of wingers for them was one of the worst. After a year of Tortorella’s madness (including playing Sestito with them from what I recall) I thought they’d settled on a good partner in Vrbata and then that ended abruptly. I’m glad that he finally fit Granlund with them but given what we’re paying Ericsson and his skills it seemed like a waste not to try him out there longer — especially if you were going to stick a Megna with them.

    • pheenster

      Disagree that it’s entitlement. They’ve set a high bar for themselves. With a high bar come greater expectations. Like I said in my comment above, if I need to recalibrate my expectations I’ll do so, but they’re victims of their own success here (and of their seeming lack of PR skills).

      And count me in for Eriksson with the twins. Although given how Granlund was developing some nice chemistry there last year I don’t think it should be a season-long experiment if it isn’t working.

      • TheRealPB

        I think it’s a medium bar. There’s certain things I do expect in terms of basic writing and factual accuracy even from a non-professional source, and things have become blurred between traditional for-profit media and blogs, but even then I have a hard time getting too worked up if they’re not covering every issue every minute. At its best CA offers a really different perspective on a game I love, from prospects, prospect development, game management, strategy, and evaluation of performance, one that i don’t necessarily get from more entertainment-based blogs (like PassittoBulis) or traditional media. It’s free content and generally pretty worthwhile, otherwise why come here? For that I’m willing to live with the stuff I disagree with, the sometimes substandard writing, and the fact that the material won’t always be available exactly when I want it.

      • Saundero

        Oh my god. This is a blog. A free blog. Saying they set the bar too high and then disappointed you should only have relevance if you expended something of value based on past expectations. Since the only expenditure you’re forced to make is the time you take to read this site you really shouldn’t get worked up, especially since it seems like you value your time so low that you write paragraph responses about how your free blog is disappointing you.

        And now I’ve wasted my time. Shoot.

        • pheenster

          If it’s a free blog, I’ll treat it like a free blog. And here I was thinking that they had done well enough that they were graduating to junior media outlet. How much did you pay for the last Botchford piece your read on the Province website? I thought so.

          Free blog it is. Expectations recalibrated.

          • TheRealPB

            Maybe it’s just a matter for me of which thing you hold the standard to. I think it is important to be accurate with information — and at times having recaps done by people who don’t watch the games and seem to be just going by the stats line or just being full of snark doesn’t meet the minimum standard I’d expect. But I guess I feel that this seems to be a lot of outrage — and it certainly isn’t just you, there seem to be a lot of people upset by the lack of coverage of the development camp — over something I just don’t think is as significant. I actually find the development camps to be kind of a weird new innovation, I don’t remember when they first started, but half of it seems like all about team bonding and teaching them how to be a pro. It’s kind of like the unending orientations universities now give prospective students because they can’t possibly figure out how to study or not balloon up fifty pounds their first year or something.

            To be clear, I don’t disagree with you at all about having standards and if the writers conceive of themselves as being something more than just commentators like the rest of us unwashed, they should be held to a certain bar. I just think this isn’t the particular aspect of their work I’d be most critical about.

          • Bud Poile

            There was development camp work offered here.
            Some fans were wondering why a piece wasn’t done on the prospects game,itself.
            Being the highlight of the draft and subsequent development camp it’s a natural question to ask.

  • Kevin Zed

    I would have liked to have seen a thing or two on the development camp since I love your content, but I understand your lack of time and resources. And after the fantastic prospect profiles and Draft coverage, you guys deserve a break.

    Also a question: Are you guys going to continue the podcast throughout the summer? I listen to it while at work and would definitely love more episodes, even if it were slowed down a bit.

  • Terry Dactil

    Wow, thought there would be a thread full of decent hockey talk here in response to JDs mailbag but it’s full of commenter whinging and CA snark. Unbelievable.

    Here are imho just some of the topics that could/should be covered by CA in the past week or so –

    1. Rollie Melanson leaving the Canucks for New Jersey (Linden granted the move even though Rollie had a year left on his contract). Impact?

    2. The Jagr sweepstakes – Calgary are now the frontrunners, why haven’t the Canucks reached out despite a huge downturn in season tickets/attendance etc?

    3. Sami Salo showing up to help the prospects out and Olli Juolevi in particular.

    4.The Bo Horvat extension – what is the state of play?

    That’s just some of the topics aside from the blown coverage of the prospects camp. C’mon CA, the rest of the Nation is posting stuff every day! Let’s talk hockey, or at least tell us you are signing off for the rest of summer.


    • TheRealPB

      I loved the bits with Salo and him giving the advice to so many of the d prospects, not just Juolevi. It’s a really nice touch to see so many (smart) ex-players in the fold — Malhotra, Baumgartner, Cloutier all in more defined roles and now maybe Salo too. Getting these pros (whatever their actual career performances look like) involved shows real attention to the work not just of scouting but of developing young prospects. Now who can we get working with Cassels and Virtanen to reach their potential?