Sedin Twins are no doubt hall of famers: are they first ballot worthy?

The notion of a current player making their way to the Hall of Fame often incites a knee-jerk reaction. That is especially true of those deemed ‘first ballot’ Hall of Famers. 

A first-ballot Hall of Fame player is a player with so prolific a career they’re inducted as soon as they’re eligible — often bypassing those less fortunate or gifted players yet to break through.

When the Sedin’s are eligible to enter the hall of fame, will they be inducted right away?

Players like Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, Mark Messier and Paul Coffey in recent years have been inducted into the Hall of Fame as soon as they were eligible. In today’s NHL names like Sidney Crosby, Alexander Ovechkin, Jonathan Toews among others are surefire first ballot Fall of Fame players. Do Canucks star forwards Henrik and Daniel Sedin qualify in that kind of class of elite? 

Henrik: 2010 Hart Trophy, 2010 Art Ross Trophy, King Clancy Memorial Trophy, 2010, 2011 First All-star team. 2006 Olympic gold medalist. Three-time NHL all-star. 972 career points 

Daniel: 2011 Art Ross Trophy, 2011 Ted Lindsey Award, 2011 NHL First All-Star Team. Three-time NHL all-star, 2006 Olympic gold medalist, 945 career points. 

The Sedins have another two seasons ( including this year) remaining on their contracts with the Canucks. The Sedins will likely be around beyond the 2017-2018 season as their production hasn’t derailed substantially despite ageing. In the next 3-4 years they play, they could add even more to their repertoire than they already have.

It’d be hard to foresee the Sedins not being inducted into the Hall of Fame when it’s all said and done. The two have been pillars in the Vancouver Canucks 46 year history and came only one game short of hoisting the franchise’s first Stanley Cup. 

The two likely may leave the game without a Stanley Cup ring, but that hasn’t stopped a plethora of talented players from getting into the Hall. If anything, what the Sedins accomplished on their lengthy 2011 Stanley Cup run only helps their chances. Another tidbit to take into account: Every Art Ross Trophy winner that has been Hall of Fame eligible is already enshrined.

Now, as if the Sedin’s were to retire right now, would they be first ballot hall of famers? 

For starters, would the twins be inducted into the Hall together, or separately? That’s a key issue in this debate. Despite the fact that the two have accomplished everything together in their hockey careers, could the hall of fame afford to put them in together? Taking up two spots for the Sedin twins could be challenging when the voting comes around, but it could be the only option. Honestly, how much better is one Sedin than the other? What’s Daniel without Henrik and vice versa? If I were forced to choose one or the other, I’d elect with Henrik by only a small hair. 

Look at their accolades above; they almost mirror each other. It’s like duplicating the same player. You can’t induct one and not induct the other. 

The complicated thing is, each member of the hall of fame selection committee can only nominate one player per year. So unless it’s a co-ordinated and understood idea that both Daniel and Henrik will be nominated, things could be tricky. Thus, of course, the committee makes an exception to the rule. 

It may be difficult for both to enter together if they are in the presence of a very strong hall of fame class, but it’s way too early to debate that sort of angle.  

They may not get into the hall of fame on their first crack, but the Sedins will get the induction that they deserve, and they’ll get it together. One of the best dynamic duo’s in the league’s history was never split up in their NHL careers, and that won’t start with separate hall of fame inductions. 

It just may take some time for it to get done.

  • TheRealPB

    Hard to see them as not first ballot by the time they are done. Points aren’t everything but they are both in the top 100 all-time in the NHL and have had long and productive careers even without a Cup. Many others in the hall don’t have a Cup or didn’t play in the NHL (but are deservedly in the hall). Not sure about whether they were first ballot entries or not but the HHOF seems to be a generally less political entry than baseball for example.

  • Killer Marmot

    When comparing the Sedins’ point production to those now in the Hall of Fame, one must remember that the NHL was a far higher scoring league between 1975 to 1995. In 1985, for example, 13 players had over 100 points. Today getting over 100 points is rare.

    Thus one should “era weight” points production to make comparisons. If you do this, the Sedins are well ahead of Hall of Famers like Mullen, LaFontaine, Federko, Anderson, and Goulet.

    • TheRealPB

      Beyond this, there are a lot of members of the HHOF who never played in the NHL never mind what their point totals or playoff success was. Tretiak, Kharlamov, Granato, James, Heaney and Ruggiero, for example. All well deserved and based on more than raw point totals alone

  • apr

    The HOF committee and media will give them their due beyond the umbers and have them on the first ballot. They are unique, have represented their country in international competitions, great in the community, and have a ton of class. The latter is so important, its why it took Lindros forever to get in the HOF. 82-0 baby!!

  • Vanoxy

    Getting in at the same time will be tough, under the current system. And even 1 may not make it on the first ballot.

    My fear is that they will essentially split votes, because they are so similar, and it may take a few tries for the first Twin to make it in.

    Unless there is collusion by the voting committee to vote for 1 of them the first year, and the other the next.

    It would be a classy move for the HOF to make an exception and allow them to go in together. They have been classy players and great representatives of the game, so I would hope the HOF will pull some strings for them, good PR move all around. They are a unique phenomenon, and the NHL has cashed in on them…. we all remember the bachelor party with the Swedish Twins…

  • Dirty30

    They should be in together on the First ballot.

    1. Not many brothers played together on the same team, particularly not their entire careers, nor had such great success individually and together.

    2. They changed the game — to talk about the ‘cycle’ is now commonplace. But they have owned it for a decade and transformed it into an art form.

    3. Every year they are projected to decline and every year prove the pundits wrong.

    4. They are hacked, punched, cross-checked and insulted, and come out and compete with little retaliation beyond shoving a goal down their opponents’ throat.

    5. Gentlemen, class acts, generous, and give back to this community by the truckload.

    And unless there is some kind of accommodation made, it will be ages for them to get in. It will be for me the final condemnation of the Bettman era of hockey.

  • Jimjamg

    To me to achieve a first ballot, someone, or someones, must bring something to the game that has never been seen before, or brings something to the game at an extremely high level for a long duration.

    By these criteria the Sedins’ are both first ballot.

    They have raised the art of the “give and go” and the “no look” pass to levels never previously seen and done so at the highest level for extended periods of time in a League whose style of play has constantly changed and they have made it work in every environment.

    How many times have we seen “the shift” over their careers where they grind the other team to dust and finesse the puck to the net for a tap-in?

    And that’s before layering on their their incredible level of sportsmanship, community service and exemplary leadership.

    First ballot, or the Hall of Fame is not worthy of its name.

  • Chris the Curmudgeon

    How did Toews make it onto a “first ballot” list with arguably the two best players of this era? He’s tough to play against and a good bet for the Hall, but he’s never even been close to an Art Ross Trophy, which is really where First ballot forwards live. Lots of team accomplishments to be sure, but those don’t get you in on the first ballot.

  • Walker

    They should be in the Hall but I doubt they make it on their first go or (as others have pointed out) together.

    One of the biggest problems is that they play in the west. Since the season began, there have been two stories that have been picked up by the media:

    1) the own-goal in game one
    2) Virtanen slamming that guy’s head into the boards.

    Not a peep about the Shift 2.0 outside Vancouver.

    This isn’t an anti-Eastern rant about bias. It’s just the facts that it’s hard for those out East to keep track.

    Also, there’s going to be residual memories of Milbury and Cherry’s opinions. Of course, if they played for the Bruins or Leafs they be hard as nails…

  • defenceman factory

    If the HHOF does not make exception to properly accommodate the truly exception phenomenon that is Hank and Danny they should hang their heads in the shame of acknowledging an eastern bias.

    Credit where credit is due. They go in together, they go in on the first ballot and Linden should have already contracted the artist to build the statues.

  • Riley Miner

    I think the HoF will do the right thing. They should be inducted as one, and be inducted the first time they’re eligible. They are unique, awe-inspiring and, as great of players that they are on the ice (they are incredible) they are even better people. They are tremendous ambassadors of the game, and it’s a shame that they aren’t in a more mainstream hockey market, they don’t get the exposure they deserve. I won’t complain however; I’ve lived my entire hockey-watching life (1997-born) with the Sedins gracing my eyes, they were the duo that brought magic to the game for this little munchkin.

  • Steampuck

    I’m not sure I can name a single player not named Gretzky who can pass the puck like Henrik. And you’d be hard-pressed to find as smart and consistently effective receiver for those passes than Daniel. Above and beyond the success and the class mentioned above, they have contributed significantly to the aesthetics of the game. Outside the Gretzky-era Oilers, the only other combination that was anywhere near as beautiful to watch was the mid-90s Russian powerplay of the Red Wings.