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Canucks Army Game Day 36 – Canucks Vs. Oilers (Loaded Up Edition)

THE INTRO

Two cities can puff their chests about their hockey team pummeling the Flyers in recent days but only one of them will pair that with a two-game win streak. Tonight, the Canucks welcome the Oilers to Vancouver in the NHL’s nightcap game. Oddly enough, this season started the same but ironically different for both teams.

Vancouver wasn’t expected to make waves this season but has surprisingly held their own while staying in an early playoff hunt. Edmonton tanked to begin their season and has turned it around to become a team that also could be in the mix come April.

Henrik and Daniel Sedin are gone so it will take a new duo of Oilers destroyers to put the Edmonton club in their place. Cue Elias Pettersson and Brock Boeser.

Let’s Do This!™

TV / RADIO / PUCK DROP

SNP / SN 650 / 7:00 PM

LINEUPS

Adam Gaudette is back in the lineup after the flu, Erik Gudbranson will once again be a game-time decision with recurring neck spasms. Both Sven Baertschi and Brandon Sutter are both still out as well.

Jacob Markstrom was tested but not stretched wire to wire so don’t be surprised if he get’s tonight’s start as well.

Canucks lines courtesy of Dailyfaceoff.com:

LW C RW Forwards
Nikolay Goldobin
NIKOLAY GOLDOBIN

Rating: 70.4#98 LW

Bo Horvat
BO HORVAT

Rating: 76.1#41 C

Jake Virtanen
JAKE VIRTANEN

Rating: 71.7#81 RW

FL1 Rating
Rating: 72.73#30 FL1
Josh Leivo
JOSH LEIVO

Rating: 73.7#47 LW

Elias Pettersson
ELIAS PETTERSSON

Rating: 78.4#31 C

Brock Boeser
BROCK BOESER

Rating: 82.1#2 RW

FL2 Rating
Rating: 78.06#3 FL2
Antoine Roussel
ANTOINE ROUSSEL

Rating: 71.4#84 LW

Adam Gaudette
ADAM GAUDETTE

Rating: 71.7#116 C

Loui Eriksson
LOUI ERIKSSON

Rating: 71.3#86 RW

FL3 Rating
Rating: 71.47#21 FL3
Markus Granlund
MARKUS GRANLUND

Rating: 70.1#115 LW

Jay Beagle
JAY BEAGLE

Rating: 67.4#188 C

Tyler Motte
TYLER MOTTE

Rating: 69.9#101 RW

FL4 Rating
Rating: 69.13#29 FL4
DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
Alexander Edler
ALEXANDER EDLER

Rating: 74.4#31 LD

Chris Tanev
CHRIS TANEV

Rating: 70.9#76 RD

DL1 Rating
Rating: 72.67#23 DL1
Ben Hutton
BEN HUTTON

Rating: 71.1#97 LD

Erik Gudbranson
ERIK GUDBRANSON

Rating: 69.3#92 RD

DL2 Rating
Rating: 70.19#29 DL2
Derrick Pouliot
DERRICK POULIOT

Rating: 70.3#114 LD

Troy Stecher
TROY STECHER

Rating: 71.7#57 RD

DL3 Rating
Rating: 71.02#20 DL3

 

Oscar Klefbom will be out for 6-8 weeks after successful hand surgery to repair his pinky, blocking shots not such a wise decision after all. Kris Russell is also on the IR but it’s a mystery of what he’s suffering from.

Mikko Koskinen is leading the Oilers as of late and should be the starter tonight.

Oilers lines courtesy of Dailyfaceoff.com:

LW C RW Forwards
Alex Chiasson
ALEX CHIASSON

Rating: 71.1#95 LW

Connor McDavid
CONNOR MCDAVID

Rating: 90.9#1 C

Leon Draisaitl
LEON DRAISAITL

Rating: 80.7#15 RW

FL1 Rating
Rating: 80.87#5 FL1
Jujhar Khaira
JUJHAR KHAIRA

Rating: 70.2#112 LW

Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
RYAN NUGENT-HOPKINS

Rating: 76.0#42 C

Jesse Puljujarvi
JESSE PULJUJARVI

Rating: 69.8#103 RW

FL2 Rating
Rating: 72.00#26 FL2
Milan Lucic
MILAN LUCIC

Rating: 69.1#128 LW

Kyle Brodziak
KYLE BRODZIAK

Rating: 70.8#141 C

Zack Kassian
ZACK KASSIAN

Rating: 69.0#117 RW

FL3 Rating
Rating: 69.65#31 FL3
Drake Caggiula
DRAKE CAGGIULA

Rating: 70.7#102 LW

Ryan Spooner
RYAN SPOONER

Rating: 71.5#123 C

Tobias Rieder
TOBIAS RIEDER

Rating: 69.8#104 RW

FL4 Rating
Rating: 70.68#10 FL4
DEFENSIVE PAIRINGS Defense
Darnell Nurse
DARNELL NURSE

Rating: 73.8#38 LD

Adam Larsson
ADAM LARSSON

Rating: 72.4#48 RD

DL1 Rating
Rating: 73.11#19 DL1
Kevin Gravel
KEVIN GRAVEL

Rating: 71.6#83 LD

Caleb Jones
CALEB JONES
DL2 Rating
Rating: 71.62#24 DL2
Jason Garrison
JASON GARRISON

Rating: 69.4#10 LD

Matt Benning
MATT BENNING

Rating: 72.4#49 RD

DL3 Rating
Rating: 70.90#22 DL3

 

YOUR INFORMATIONAL NEEDS FOR TONIGHT’S GAME

  • Goals used to be a serious problem for the Canucks but December is proving the future won’t be doom and gloom if this current stretch is a microcosm of things to come. Vancouver has scored five or more goals in three of their last seven games while allowing two or fewer goals in four of their seven games this month. Add to that, 54% of the Canucks current roster has scored a goal in December as well.
  • Broken record alert! December continues the trend of pathetic Canucks PP chances. They currently have a 10% success rate this month which is beyond terrible and needs to be changed. Get Boeser back to his original spot on the right side, entertain the idea of Troy Stecher… heck get Tyler Motte out there!
  • Staying on the December train, it has been quite kind in the goals-against category for the Canucks – they lead the league with 16 goals, the fewest in the league! It has been a team approach because the Canucks defense alone hasn’t been stellar.
  • We live in a very messed up world, a world where Loui Eriksson is moving upwards in advanced stats. Eriksson has a 5v5 P/60 of 1.91. Sure, Elias Pettersson and Brock Boeser are well ahead but when Loui is just shy of two points every 60 minutes at evens, that’s a headscratcher.
  • Both teams will want to keep the game clean this evening. Vancouver and Edmonton share mediocre special teams despite having top units that should be able to bump the stats. That being said, there is a fair amount of speed on both teams so if they can’t keep up, expect the power plays to mount.

MY 94 CENTS

It’s the first meeting between the Canucks and Oilers which this close to Christmas feels a bit weird. Edmonton canned their coach early on this season and picked up the formerly retired Ken Hitchcock to move them forward. The Oilers are riding high in the midst of an 8-1-1 run but the Canucks are skewing their formerly putrid record of their rolling 10 by now going 5-3-2.

The Oilers will be a big test tonight and when it comes to tests this season the Canucks have answered for the most part. It’s also the first official meeting between Elias Pettersson and Connor McDavid.

This could be one we all remember.

THE FINAL WORD

Just saying…

  • Nilsson should get the start. Markstrom back to back is a bad idea.

    Oilers defense is in rough shape. Yes, even worse than before. When Larsson is your best, and only defenseman, you know you’re gonna get schooled.

    How much fun was it, watching the Sedins feast on those hapless Oilers year after year. Yes, it was.

    What is it about Albertans hating trees? I can hear the chainsaws buzzing from miles away. Why do they hate trees so much, and have this need to cut them down? I just don’t get it.

    Hard fought game, but Canucks take this one.

    • Missing Burr

      Sigh – Another pre-game and the pathetic ‘backed up bob’ troll (aka crofton/bud poile/bob daley44 same loser) is rolled out to spew his usual cliched horsesh*t and bizarre old-man ramblngs.

      You ARE an Albertan ffs – i have your post bookmarked on the Oilers forum where you admit watching Mark Messier play for the St Albert Saints, dimwit. Now stop ragging on your Albertan brothers, STFU and have another cancer stick you sad little gambling addicted troll.

  • Killer Marmot

    The hockey gods have decreed that the Canucks play 8 games in 14 days. The Oilers are in the midst of 9 games in 16 days. It wouldn’t surprize me if things look a little ragged.

    • North Van Halen

      There is no defenceman on this roster capable of playing of playing the point on pp 1. Just what’s the lesser of the evils. The reality is we’re just killing time til Hughes gets here but sure why not Hutton, at least he occasionally hits EP’s sweet spot.

    • That question has been asked many times and always goes unanswered, so I’ll try to answer:
      He keeps creating new accounts with a new e-mail address and rolling IP address therefor bypassing the rules.
      CA staff is too lazy to moderate comments citing too busy, no time, or family excuses. Staff would have to look at each comment and decide what to do with it. What they should do is look at each new account being created and moderate from there. How many new accounts are really opened?
      He could also be part of the staff.

      • crofton

        Part of the staff makes more and more sense. You would hope it isn’t the case, but repeated requests have fallen on deaf ears, so if he is not part of the staff, they are at a minimum complicit in his continued presence, and care nothing for people that simply want to come here for honest discourse, without being bullied or called names. In this era of making on-line bullying an important issue, and not to be tolerated, CA are failing miserably.

        • Bud Poile

          I don’t even get replies when I write to the Nation now.
          The editors themselves have to be held accountable and called out.
          Jackson has allowed this game to go on for years on his watch.
          Press for a moderator as that will solve this once and for all.

          • kermit

            I don’t understand it either. If the theory that it’s because it creates more hits, and hits equal advertising revenue, then maybe a way to apply pressure is to contact the companies that advertise here. Find out who buys their media and suggest they take a closer look at what their paying for, that the hit count is partly bogus.
            Personally, I think the best way is to handle it ourselves by not reading his posts. His goal is to bait people into responding. What he doesn’t want is to be ignored.

    • Holly Wood

      Some of you may be aware that I requested the editors to clean this up 5 times over a 2 week period. No response and no action. The only recourse is to not respond to the trolls. There appears to be a few currently haunting this house. If we are naming names I believe one of the worst is Missing Burr. Let’s call out these clowns then completely ignore their comments and posts. Even if they engage in personal attacks

      • bobbert

        interesting how not one of those posting and whinging about trolls above actually posted on the philly post game, yet they all magically appear on this thread to engage in their childish antics crying for mods. funny that, pot-kettle comes to mind.

        • Missing Burr

          Great call man, spot on. kermit posted on the philly thread but he’s a whinging nobody. The rest are all multi trolls from the main ID ‘Bud Poile’ (crofton, backup bob, bud poile) and only appear to stir sh*t up here. They always jump in to lie, abuse and make foul-mouthed personal attacks but never talk hockey without trolling, so by site rules THEY should be banned.

          Can you believe this Bud loser sends cowardly emails whining to the Nation wtf!!! They have wised up and ignore him though, Jackson hates him lol. Case closed.

          • Bud Poile

            PQW (‘Missing Burr’ and ‘bobbert’ in this thread ),many posters here has been writing the Nation site for a long,long time to get rid of your cyber bullying on display in this one thread.
            If you have read through this one thread,Ryan,you begin to understand what has transpired.
            Simply ask crofton,backup bob and bud poile to email you separately.
            PQW (Missing Burr,bobbert) has actually stated he and ‘Jackson’ have some affiliation as though he is aligned with the site.
            Jackson hasn’t actively moderated this site in years,if ever.

          • EP fan

            Sorry Bud P but I just read through the thread and i see lots of hockey debate, some heated and alot of goading and personal attacks from backup bob, killer marmot,Green Bastard and yourself.

            Your reading comprehension needs some serious work imho. No wonder you are under investigation pending a ban pal. Karma.

  • wojohowitz

    Interesting comments from Ference last week It seems management was not the only problem. Some of the players thought the whole franchise was a joke, didn`t mind losing and wanted to leave town. He also came to the defence of Dallas Eakins – calling the situation dysfunctional. The two teams today which might be comparable could be Arizona and Ottawa and lets give Benning a little credit. One player showing disrespect potentially poisons the room (Duchene in Colorado) and could be contagious.

    • Killer Marmot

      Even though the Canucks have had a rough go of it over the last few years, I’ve rarely heard reports of bad attitudes or egregious irresponsibility on the part of the players. And on those occasions where there were problems, changes were made (Kesler, McCann, Kassian). That’s pretty good considering many players are not long out of adolescence with adoring fans and money to burn. Benning deserves some credit, but also maybe the Sedins.

      • Missing Burr

        Ryan Kesler LEFT of his own volition Mar-mutt. The Canucks made no changes… HE demanded an immediate trade on HIS terms because he knew the sh*t show that was coming under Benning and co, and power to the great man, he was spot on.

        Get your facts straight before spreading your ill-informed bile. You are always quick to pull others up, now I’m calling you out as a LIAR… apologise.

        • Killer Marmot

          He couldn’t “leave of his volition” because he was under contract. How brainless are you?

          Kesler asked to be traded. He was glad to be a Canuck when they were winning, not so glad when they weren’t. And the Canucks acquiesced, partially I’m sure due to Kesler’s prickly personality. Unfortunately that personality likely reduced his trade value. In my book that would be a problem attitude.

          Missing Burr, you need to get tossed from this site.

          • Missing Burr

            There ya go – Kesler DEMANDED to be moved, on his own terms, to a team of his choice, the nucks had no say in the matter, they just rolled over and did as THEY were told by the Canuck great, Kes. Nextttt!

            Nah I don’t – I was here long before you and most of the other whingers so if you don’t like hearing the truth don”t read it or better still go elsewhere. I’m talking hockey and holding d*cks like you accountable, no problem there, so grow up and grow a pair. Fascism is dead, get used to it.

          • Killer Marmot

            No player can demand to be moved. They can ask, that’s all. Teams are under no obligation to trade a player no matter how much the player pouts. The Canucks always had a say in the matter.

            So you’re going to hold dicks like me “accountable.” How are you going to do that, tough guy? You haven’t the cognitive firepower of a cap gun.

          • Missing Burr

            Chris Pronger, Martin St Louis, Patrick Roy and Ryan Kesler are ALL laughing at you, as am I.

            The PLAYERS call the shots in the NHL these days not the clubs,the evidence is overwhelming… PS – Eric Lindros says hi as well.

            How brainless are you?

            Dismissed, tail between legs.

          • Killer Marmot

            “The players call the shots these days”

            William Nylander sat on his ass for three months, and this is one of the best young players in the league.

            Any one with a lick of sense — and no, that doesn’t include you — know that power is fairly evenly balanced between the owners and the better players. Your contention that players call the shots is made-up twaddle.

            Go troll some sport you have some understanding of.

          • Missing Burr

            Get a clue – Nylander got just what he wanted, term and $$$. Pavel Bure sat for a year and got what he wanted… OUT OF VANCOUVER. Berglund is refusing to report to the Sabres and will get what he wants…out of Buffalo. Ryan Kesler demanded a trade to the Ducks, he got it…. Chris Pronger had two years left on his Oiler deal but demanded a trade – he got it…

            “Kevin Lowe’s hands were tied. Pronger demanded the trade, and suddenly Lowe faced the ugly reality that his franchise cornerstone wanted to leave town.” Oilers Nation

            https://oilersnation.com/2012/05/26/big-decisions-the-chris-pronger-trade/

            Owned, humiliated and PROVEN WRONG… off you go Marmutt, ignorant, arrogant and totally embarrassed by FACT!

            Go troll a sport YOU have an understanding of, like curling.

        • Missing Burr

          Stay down man, you’re on the floor, mortally wounded, bleeding like a stuffed pig… just stay down and take the HEAVY defeat – utterly humiliated with overwhelming evidence and facts. OUCH!!!

          THE PLAYERS CALL THE SHOTS… Eric Lindros, Patrick Roy, Chris Pronger and RYAN KESLER say hi!!!!

          Man, i’m good. Nexttttttttttttttt

          • Killer Marmot

            Hilarious that you would think it’s your duty to hold posters “accountable”. And how pathetic is it that you go leafing through commenters ancient posts to catch them out on inconsistencies? How many hours do you dedicate each week to that idiotic exercise? Does your mother yell at you from upstairs when lunch is ready?

          • North Van Halen

            Marmot, I gotta say this, you as much the problem by engaging in debate as the problem itself. If you would, ignore the substance and not give it life, eventually it will die. Feed it after dark and look what happens.

  • LACANUCK

    I agree Nilsson should start 2nd of a back to back or should have started against the slumping Flyers.
    Green has to do something with the PP, be it Sketcher or pull the goalie! jK. Against the Oil, the special teams will have to be much better. Should be a great game to watch with both clubs on the upswing

  • Kanuckhotep

    The PP D QB problem will never improve until they can get a guy who can gun it like Salo use to from the point. The Canucks don’t have such a player which is the difference between a great and not so great PP IMHO. We all know Shea Webers and Al MacInnises don’t grow on trees so Green and his staff have to figure out how to play through this challenge. The forwards on this roster are pretty good for the power play. in the future though let’s keep our fingers crossed that Hughes or Juolevi can be that guy. It’d be a huge difference maker for sure.

    • Bud Poile

      Hughes is a PP QB set up man. He doesn’t have a heavy shot per say.Neither does Olli.
      He will facilitate the PP to set up in the opposition end and set up Brock and Elias for shots.
      Olli is also a set up man but will likely man the second unit.

    • speering major

      It’s not 1990

      Most slapshots are one-timers from the circles. Ovechkin, Stamkos, Petterson, Boeser, etc. The top scoring D like Burns or Karlsson aren’t blasting it either. The game has changed. Yes a guy like Webber can pound it and score goals. Edler did it last night, but not from the blueline. Guys that can walk the line and get pucks through are more effective than hammering it. Guys that can set up one-timers are also more effective. A hard shot is just a bonus

    • Defenceman Factory

      I went to OilersNation and read your posts. It is just poor judgement to go troll another team, although you did uphold a level of decorum Oiler fans posting here seldom do.

      I don’t enjoy it when Oilers fans are on this site trolling the Canucks which you pretty much guarantee we will get more of. Canucks had a great game last night but make no mistake they are still a long ways from being able to consistently dominate the Oilers. No way that game goes as well without last change.

      We are coming into an era where a road trip for eastern teams across western Canada is unpleasant. The rivalries among the teams out here are intensifying as all four teams improve. Why can’t people just enjoy that.

  • LACANUCK

    Not sure when CA will find the time to do a recap…. BUT!

    How about these rebuilding Canucks on back to back skating around the generational talent of the Oil!
    Talent doesn’t = Wins
    Talent + effort = Wins
    Hitch is a good coach but won’t last long with this group