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Matheson/Pettersson Hit Reveals the Futility of Overpaying for Grit

By now, we’ve all seen the play by Mike Matheson on Elias Pettersson. It was definitely ugly, likely  injurious, and arguably suspendable.

One thing it wasn’t? Preventable. At least, not by any of the players on the ice, other than Matheson.

If the league wants to protect it’s star players and prevent plays like this from happening in the future, they may decide to dole out supplemental discipline. Retribution and deterrence are the job of the Player Safety department, not the players themselves. Travis Green was correct in his assessment after the game:

“You gotta keep composure. It’s a 3-2 hockey game, there’s 12 minutes left. You’re talking about a guy that has 1 fight in his career. I don’t think he’s known as a dirty player. You’re in a hockey game, you don’t start chasing people around the rink. It’s not the way it is.”

Still, that may be a bitter pill for fans of this team to swallow given how much emphasis this team has placed on things like grit and toughness, often at the expense of other more important elements of the game.

The rationale behind so many of the decisions made over the past year, from the free agency signings to the Gudbranson extension, was that Elias Pettersson needed to be surrounded by players who could insulate him, protect him, and teach him how to be an NHLer. So far, over his brief career, he’s already proven he has much more to teach most of this roster about being a pro than they have to teach him. For all the talk of needing insulation, he’s been the team’s most consistent player, most dedicated backchecker, and among their best forwards defensively. The only thing he hasn’t been is immune to the type of unfortunate (or malicious, depending on who you ask) play we saw last night; and astonishingly, icing a couple of players who are ostensibly willing to get their hands dirty did nothing to prevent.

Some people are going to take away the wrong lesson from what happened. They’ll say the team is too soft, that it needs to get tougher. The truth is, the team has spent far too much time and money chasing players who could dish out hits and throw hands, all in service of finishing with the league’s worst record over the past three seasons. What the lesson should be is that any attempt to protect your star players from injury outside of increased investment in the sports science department is futile.

The argument in favour of icing an enforcer is an inherently reactionary one. Your designated knuckle-chucker fights an opposing player after a questionable hit so he’ll think twice before doing so next time; but the hit has already occurred, there’s no preventing it. Sometimes your best players are going to get hurt. Sometimes they’ll even get hurt because of a dirty play. There’s no avoiding that reality. What you can do is invest in players who are capable of stepping into an offensive role in the absence of that player. The Canucks have made no such investments.

Instead, they’ve invested in players who were supposed to keep this from happening, or at the very least answer the bell when it did. Those players failed to deliver. That would be fine if the organization had decided it was above those type of extracurricular activities, but their actions have indicated for years now that that isn’t the case.

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So that leaves just one question: If the so-called “tough” players on this roster aren’t being paid to prevent this from happening, and aren’t being paid to respond when it does, what are they being paid to do?



  • Puck Viking

    When a player injuries another player the player should be suspended for length the other player is out +5 games first time, +10 the 2nd, +20 the 3rd, etc.. that player who was suspended should also have his pay cheques given to the injured player.

    • LiborPolasek

      A rule like this if implemented will do alot to enforce player safety but sadly such a rule will not even be considered unless the leadership changes to someone that really cares about player safety. Writing rules is always ALOT easier than implementation due to human nature. As a long time hockey fan it is frustrating because it never changes despite the posturing about player safety. With such a rule perhaps even the rats will THINK first….. smh.

    • liqueur des fenetres

      So when a player twists a knee trying to avoid a big hit and is out 3 games the guys delivering the hit should miss games? Player pay is covered with insurance, so there doesn’t need to be a financial incentive to encourage players to feign injury.

      • Puck Viking

        Oh and the players pay being sent to the injured player is to make them think twice before trying to injured player. Everyone knows injuries are covered by insurance. So again what does any of this have to do with my comment.???

    • Nuck16

      fringe players could selectively decide on a certain dirty play to make the injury seem worse than it was in hopes of getting super long payout if the event he’s forced to retire. Think Burt’s hit on Moore…Moore did not act in good faith when making his comeback…he wanted to go to court before he ever laced them up again in the NHL. He was to both ruin Burtuzzi and also hit a home run financial since he was bound for a short, low paying career. All medical experts deemed him 100% fit to play.

    • Nuck16

      Canucks played the Matheson situation perfectly. On his first shift back, they burned him bad and scored a goal. Nothing is going to hurt him more than that play plus hopefully a 5 game suspension. One they got that GWG with Matheson the goat, the only way that form a revenge was going to stick was if they locked down that lead and no more goals. Perfect, so now Matheson cost them that game because he was scared and unfocused on that critical shift. Plus, they have one more game against Fla and he will have that on this mind leading up to the next one, so we stretching it out on him as he will not have closure until his fight. Guaranteed something will happen in that game, especially have everyone say replays of it after.

    • West Van Helen

      It’s a phone hearing so it’s five games or less or a fine over $5000. Matheson is a first time offender i think, so i would guess two games max. We suffer more if EP is out for extended time..

      • Nuck16

        He may have had one other infraction. It’s a 5 game suspension for some in this league, but he’ll probably get 3. NHL will feel ints important to send a message here. Player was embarrased, was fuming, got a hit in on him and snapped part was through and went out of contral. This ‘out of control’ revenge more is the exact this they give big suspesions for. People will die in the league if somebody ‘snaps’

  • Freud

    The constant contradictions and rationalizations from this ownership and management is staggering. The complete lack of anyone taking accountability for lurching from one philosophy to the next is also staggering.

    Doing nothing about Matheson is fine with me. But when you rationalize a bunch of questionable to borderline ridiculous moves with direct quotes that the moves are intended to protect the likes of Pettersson, you must be held accountable.

    Quotes this morning from Benning indicate no responsibility is once again being taken, rather excuses fill the air. This has been happening for 5 off seasons and the cheerleaders lap it up.

    The cheerleaders making their own excuses and rationalizations for this constant garbage make things worse. Until there is pressure from the fanbase to fill the management team with educated people that know the processes in making good decisions, this team will spin constantly backwards, just like Edmonton.

    Chiarelli and Benning are soul mates. They make the same types of moves and the same types of excuses.

    Pathetic.

    • West Van Helen

      True about management but I think you have to realise that this blog doesn’t represent the vast majority of the fanbase. Indeed, most here as far as i can tell have no vested interest in the Canucks as far as buying season tickets or going to the games is concerned. Big difference there.

      • Ser Jaime Lannister

        lmao what? Tickets are at an all time low…the team has two super stars in Brock and Elias…they are playing a fast up tempo game and are winning lol… why would you not go to watch entertaining hockey lmao… man there are some stupid fans out there…

          • West Van Helen

            Your reading comprehension actually does need work because i was replying to Ser Jamie as the left hand column indicates. The vast majority of your remarks that i have seen on here are also downright nasty and condascending, so it’s a case of pot-kettle-black in my opinion. As for multiple accounts and trolling, I personally hav no idea, evidence or interest in it, so not bothered tbh. Just because lots of posters share similar opinions either positive or negative that doesn’t make them trolls or the same person imo, they just don’t always see it your way so why get so bent outta shape over it…

          • North Van Halen

            Since you showed up um today, you are either one of the multi account trolls or you haven’t been around long enough to notice the constant back and forth between long time readers and the troll brigade. There are a few with multiple accounts that are mean and condescending for no other reason than being a jerk.
            Many long time readers, readers that contribute to the debate here, posters that I respect have begged staff here to rid us of these trolls. Those are the people who’s opinion matter to me and I will continue to point out the stupidity of the trolls until they’re gone or I am. If you got caught in the crossfire sorry to you, never to the trollls.

        • West Van Helen

          Your reading comprehension needs some work. I said the vast majority of regulars/posters on this blog do not go to games or buy season tickets so their online opinions do not represent those of the fanbase with an actual vested interest in the Canucks. As Freud said they are just cheerleaders from afar so not to be taken seriously.

          • North Van Halen

            My reading comprehension needs no work. There are several here, with multiple accounts, who repeat the same negative things over and over while pontificating their intellectual superiority. Nobody’s opinion means less because they have less money. It means more to FA, that’s it.
            And to have these same people with the multiple accounts but the same writing style come on here not to debate to insult and condescend is no more than childish trolling. Trying to make people feel bad for having a differing opinion and doubling down by feigning intellectual and moral superiority is straight up obnoxious.
            If you’re not one of the jerks that does this, I apologize and I look forward to debating issues like an adult. If you are one of the multi-user trolls that uses every article to pretend you’re smart, get bent.

          • Ser Jaime Lannister

            “Indeed, most here as far as i can tell have no vested interest in the Canucks as far as buying season tickets or going to the games is concerned. Big difference there.”

            lmao please do tell…

        • KGR

          Respectfully. Tickets sales are not at an all time low. Season tickets remain strong and jersey sales, etc are still decent. Nice article on the Athletic (If I remember correctly) the other day. Otherwise, agree completely with the rest of it. And I do believe the people posting on this site are representative of the fan base. Right from the trolls to the groupies. Cheers

    • Canuck4Life20

      So let’s have it your way and put Biega in for Gudbranson, Ganuce in for Beagle, and Motte in for Roussell. How exactly would any of those players have stopped something like this from happening? You constantly and your fellow self-loathers contradict yourself just like the ‘cheerleaders’ (apparently everyone on here who doesn’t blindly hate Benning) that you constantly go on about. When Benning makes a move to try and improve the team you whine that it’s not good enough and will only hurt their draft position. When he stands pat like he did with the defence and goaltending you howl that he should have done something more to improve them.

      “Doing nothing about Matheson is fine with me.” That’s the most honest thing you have ever written on here. You don’t care about this team or the players. All you’re concerned with is getting in your digs at Benning. You love seeing Pettersson get hurt because it gives you another reason to keep grinding your axe. At least Benning tried to do something to address the toughness on the team. You have never come up with an original idea of your own except to do nothing and place AHL players in NHL positions. Your idea of doing nothing but whine fits right in with your soul mates – Jackson and the two JDs.

      • brokensticks

        I fully agree. The writers for this blog feel it is their job to constantly whine and complain about management, ownership, the coaches and the players. If there was retaliation for the Peterson hit and the Canucks lost the game because of it, they would write volumes about how poorly coached the team is. It’s annoying as hell.

  • bobdaley44

    They never invested in players who were supposed to keep this from happening. They invested in players who can grind, play good D and forecheck hard which they are doing. Didn’t see Calgary chasing Gudbranson around when he crushed Dube. Next game I’m sure there’ll be some retribution. My issue is where was the call? The ref was right there.

    • Gino's 3rd Cousin

      This post basically sums up how I feel. I was upset to see him go down as well, but reading some of the reactions on here makes me think a lot of these fans are actually trolls in disguise.

    • Settlebower

      Every player has his “welcome to the N H L moment”, but I agree. Where was the call? Matheson was clearly frustrated and embarrassed by EP. The hit was OK. The body slam was intent to injure imho. There’s nothing anyone can do on July 1 or any other day of the year to prevent that. The league and the officials have to be the ones. When are they going to realise that Alex Burrows has retired. Jackson has it right.

      • Canuck4Life20

        Jackson has it right? Nowhere does he mention anything about the failure of the refs or the league to protect their star players. In fact he called the play ‘arguably suspendable’.The only thing Jackson is interested is taking more shots at Benning and Gudbranson.

        • Freud

          Siss boom bah. Wave those angry Pom poms. Make weak rationalizations to justify the results are always the opposite of managements stated goals.

          I laid out the cheerleader playbook and they are too dim to realize they replied in the exact way I said they would.

          Not surprised.

          • Canuck4Life20

            And I’m not surprised to see an inexperienced lightweight who has nothing more to offer than name-calling and whining about everything that Benning says and does make this incident about Benning instead of seeing the real issue – the lack of respect that players have for each other and the failure of refs and the league to hold those players accountable.

            And do you think that implying that anyone who disagrees with your self-loathing viewpoint is a cheerleader somehow makes you smart? Your constant need to name-call and divide everyone into cheerleaders and haters is just another example of your weak intellect. Most posters on here can acknowledge the good Benning has done along with admitting the bad. It’s a shame that you’re not bright enough to do the same, but go-ahead and call me a cheerleader for pointing out your weak line of thinking. You certainly don’t have anything else.

        • Settlebower

          JB has earned his share of criticism. I don’t think I’ve heard anyone at CA say that Beagle, Shaller, or Rouselle aren’t decent players? It’s $ and term that’s been criticized and that’s not just fair, its accurate. As for Gudbranson, he’s a bottom pair defensman at best and the $ is questionable. This is on display every time he plays. He works hard, by all reports he’s a good teamate, and he cares. That doesn’t entitle him to be free from criticism.

  • Fred-65

    I tend to think that there’s a wait and see if suspensions result. If it’s only 1 game then frankly it will be open season on the likes of McDavid etc. But I tend to believe there will be retribution ( remember Stecher/Martin episode) and it will come in February in Vcr and the only thing that will prevent that will be if Florida don’t dress Mattherson for the game

  • TD

    I completely agree that grit won’t prevent this type of play, but Jackson missed the point of why you sign grit. It’s there to make your team hard to play against. Anyone who has played hockey knows the cumulative effect of being hit throughout a game. You get sore and over time you are a little slower and love the puck quicker because you are hurt. Look at the NFL and how they need a week off between games. Physicality takes a toll, but it won’t prevent idiotic or predatory plays. It also can’t be assessed under the current advanced statistics. The players that throw the hit may not be on the ice later in the game when their teammates benefit from their earlier hits.

    The Eberle/Hall/Nugent-Hopkins years of the Oilers were a holiday for opposing teams cause they knew they didn’t have to worry about being hit. That’s why you sign some grit, to make life harder on the opposition and force mistakes later in the game.

  • Kanuckhotep

    Here’s one idea no one has considered. Because it’s a ridiculously over sized 31 club league now teams NOT in your conference you’ll only play twice a season and FLA only plays the VC once more this year. The point to be made is this allows cretins like Matheson to cripple stars like Petey because you rarely play teams in the other conference knowing you’ll never face any real or immediate retribution. And including next season the Panthers face the Canucks only 3 times in 159 games. So who can really get him back? Suspended? Big F*#&ing Deal.

      • canuckfan

        Yes you can get grit for less term and money just like anything else as the price tag goes down so does the quality. Our penalty kill has been pretty good as a direct result in my opinion of the summer signings.
        Now that Beagle is out we will see how much that effects the team. I hope for one it makes players think twice before taking the lazy penalties that many have taken, that would be a big help.

  • NastyNate

    This article is a steaming pile of trash. I understand that so many CA writers want to continue to push the narrative that this management team is completely incompetent but taking what happened to Pettersson last night and using it to somehow show that management made the wrong investment in players is crap.

    Roussell was busy scoring the gtg and is in his first game as a Canuck after a head injury. Beagle was busy breaking his wrist blocking shots. Schaller was out there but I wouldn’t call him an investment at just over one million per year.

    • Beer Can Boyd

      100% agree. All three of those players had strong games last night. The Beagle/Schaller , Sutter/Granlund PK units have given the Canucks the best penalty killing they’ve seen since Kesler left, and Roussel scored a goal in his first game. Wtf more could you possibly be expecting them to do? McDonald is the biggest troll on this entire site.

  • wojohowitz

    Here`s the bigger picture; If Sidney Crosby announced his retirement today at the age of 31 and after suffering 4 concussions people would be shocked and upset because his career would be cut short.

    Jeremy Roenick suffered 13 concussions in his 20 year career. If he announced that he was experiencing bizarre behavior episodes attributed to chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE) would that move the NHL to action.

    Pettersson at age 19 has suffered his first concussion – that we know of. How many will he endure before walking away from hockey or just from the NHL.

  • Dirk22

    I cannot believe the amount of people on here who are not put off by there being no push back after what happened. And pretending guys like Dorsett, Prust and Roussel have been there to make the team ‘tough to play against’ (what does that now mean by the way?) instead of protecting the young guys by making the other team ‘accountable’. Your sensitivity to Canucks Army criticizing Benning and co. has skewed your minds. How you can be a fan and be ok with zero accountability is nauseating….and lets not pretend we’re all stoked for the big W. And no, we don’t need a Bertuzzi so don’t get hyperbolic but something needed to happen,….it didn’t…and now you’re all (as usual) making excuses.

    • Dirk22

      Benning quote back in January: “I don’t know if Elias Pettersson will be ready when he comes to training camp next year. But we want our young players to be able to play and develop without worrying about getting picked on. We need to have guys who will stand up for them.”

      Most of you need to pull your heads out of your a$$#$

        • Canuck4Life20

          You’re a troll because you are associated with the writers of this site, you clearly don’t care about the Canucks or the players, you have nothing to offer besides name-calling, you post deliberately provocative messages, and have no interest in being involved in a respectful discussion with anyone. Hope this helps but I’m sure it won’t.

          • Freud

            This current ownership and management does not care about it’s fans. I’ve invested decades and dollars into this team and I care about them a great deal. I take issue with the lies, excuses and rationalizations the management has constantly presented to the fans when questioned. I lived through the 80’s when we were embarrassed to wear Canuck gear to school because you were ridiculed. I’ve see futility in the past and I won’t support more futility.

            I do not look at Benning’s tenure in simple minded terms like what has he done well and what has he done poorly. He made clear statements, turning the team around in a hurry, Sutter is foundational, Pettersson will be protected that have been proven to be so stunningly wrong that the very basic decision making process Benning uses has to be seriously questioned.

            I’ve been around long enough to see how a Canadian fan base can influence management. The cheerleading and cool-aid drinking just keeps the incompetent in power.

            If you care about this team as you appear to claim, you would demand better too. Anything less is a disservice to us all.

          • Canuck4Life20

            Sure you have bud. Nothing you have ever posted on here backs up your claims that you’ve supported this team since the 80’s.

            If you think that your comments have any influence in affecting change you might want to look at the number of thumbs down you routinely get. If anything they have the opposite effect that you seem to think they do. There is nothing simple minded about taking a pragmatic view of Benning’s work. It requires thought, analysis, and an ability to see beyond simple statements made to the media. If you think that coming on to a (supposed) fan blog, calling everyone names, acting like you’re the smartest guy on here, and making up facts to suit your narrative while ignoring the ones that don’t is a sign of intelligence, then you’re even dumber than I thought.

        • Dirk22

          Looking forward to all the apologies from the guys who endlessly claimed this team needs plug veterans to insulate and protect the youth. Imagine seeing something like last nights incident and still have argue against the premise of the article. As said in the article- what is the point of these players. Would love to hear some reasoning. Unfortunately there isn’t any

    • DeL

      Canucks Army and many of the posters can criticize Benning all they want that’s their right but I’m in the camp that he’s not as terrible as they make out and I’m definitely not a fan of JMc. That stated, after the play on EP which was absolutely suspendible, the Canucks should have targeted Barzel, hit him every chance they got and made the last fifteen minutes of the game a very unpleasant memory that lasts all the way to January and made Matheson very aware that his actions have consequences, painful ones because if you don’t all the other Matheson clones around the league will think they have cart blanche on any of the Canuck’s younger talent. that’s a fact and that is what would have happened in the bad old days.

  • KCasey

    Toughness isnt simply a cookie cutter trait that implies fighting and lining up a painful hit in retribution to something prior. Its blocking shots, going into the dirty areas or flying in hard and fast towards the corners, its being a rough and tumble player that takes the bumbs and bruises of the game against opposing players that hate those very same bumps and bruises. When Beagle is digging in the corner against another teams skilled/softer players, and they start exchanging the elbows and sticks to the softer areas, which player second guesses himself first when they have to go back to retrieve another puck from that spot. Its a fast game, no time for hesitation, pain and fear of it can cause a split second hestitation and in a game of a thousand moments and instances, sometimes those moments of guessing lead to turnovers or missed opportunities. Not saying you need to ice 5 or 6 guys that do this type of work but having one or two that block multiple shots and rough you up in front of the net and in the half wall can really alter the smaller moments of the game. Juss saying.

  • ned

    Like everyone, I am pretty upset at the zero response to Petey being body slammed to the ice. I think showing opposition that there will be a price to pay anytime you feel like roughing up a young player/star in a blue and green Jersey is far more important at this stage of the season than the 2 points. This is so frustrating. We need another Dorsett and Guddy has got to go now. Even Ryan Miller who is a beanpole himself wouldn’t allow Stecher to get picked on by Matt Martin. I just don’t understand what’s wrong with this team being a bunch of pushovers. I’m at a loss for words.

    • Bud Poile

      I agree Ned.
      Horvat needs to grow a pair. I’m as disgusted with him as I am with Green’s no show.
      The two points are meaningless,Bo. The kid carrying the team was just assaulted while you make excuses for your cowardice:
      “To grind out that win, with that much composure and will to win, is huge. We were down some players and we pulled it out.” – Horvat
      “Some players”,indeed.

      • RobG

        So Horvat steps up and fights Matheson, ends up with a broken face or a concussion of his own, and is out for an extended period of time. Then what? The Canucks are without their TWO best players, instead of just one.

  • Clayton

    Karma is a *itch isn’t it! Canucks fans didn’t think anything of Gudbranson taking a cheap shot on Flames rookie Dube! No…that was a ‘clean hit’ by Canucks fans judgement. Feels a little different now that another team takes out a Canuck rookie! To me this would be easy for the NHL to tackle, but they won’t. First time a player makes a cheap hit…25 games. Second time 42 games. Third strike 84 games. Certainly there would need to be some way of ensuring a player had ‘forgiveness’ between cheap and dangerous plays like this. I wouldn’t want a player to be suspended for 84 games for his third cheap hit in 10 years…though most of the guys delivering crap like this don’t last 10 years in the league. When I lay out my $$ for tickets I want to see the Crosby, McDavid, Gudreau, Petterson, Ovechkin, and so on…not the Gudbranson and Mathesons!

    • Canuck4Life20

      Aren’t you a winner celebrating a concussion on a 19 year old kid. First, Dube was fine. Second, Gudbranson answered for the hit and apologized for it. Third, find me a single poster on here that said it was a clean hit and didn’t acknowledge that it was prior to the puck arriving.

      • Clayton

        So the standard you hold for whether a hit is cheap and dirty or not is whether the player is injured or not? Dube is barely 20…in fact is just 4 months older than Petterson. And by your logic if Matheson fights a Canuck and says he is sorry then all is good! Makes total sense to me.

        • Canuck4Life20

          You really need to work on your reading comprehension. Where did I say it was a clean hit? You’re the one who is saying that Pettersson suffering a concussion is somehow karma for a play four games prior that didn’t involve him in any way. This has nothing to do with the Dube and the two incidents are nowhere near to being the same. It’s a pathetic reach for you to somehow equate them.

          • Clayton

            Looks like your reading comprehension is the one that needs work. Where did I say anything about celebrating a 19 year old getting a concussion? Your point is a perfect example of the problem. According to your logic, because a player isn’t hurt and the player apologizes and ‘answers for the hit’ then cheap shots are fine. So because Matheson didn’t fight and Elias was injured the hit suddenly becomes dirty. Makes total sense!

          • Canuck4Life20

            ‘Karma is a *itch isn’t it!’ That’s where I got that you were celebrating a 19 year old getting a concussion. You don’t follow my logic at all because I never said that cheap shots were fine but I was pointing out how the incidents are completely different and the idiocy of saying that the play last night on Pettersson had anything to do with Gudbranson hitting Dube. Nothing more. The more you try and justify your karma statement the worse you sound. Don’t worry though, I’ve spent plenty of time in Alberta and know that Flames fans are the sharpest group.

    • NastyNate

      You’re a moron Clayton, anyone who thinks they know what an entire group of people is thinking or how they feel is a moron. You don’t know what you’re talking about, I am a Canucks fan and I winced when I saw that Gudbranson hit. Wasn’t happy that Haminic was hurt either.

      • Clayton

        Classic Canuck Fan there! You think your argument is strengthened by calling someone a moron! Classic! Clearly that puts your argument over the top! Clearly Canucks Army isn’t a place for constructive, mature conversation! Good luck in the draft lotto canucks!

        • Canuck4Life20

          When you want to start constructive, mature conversation you might want to try starting your post with something other than ‘Karma is a *itch isn’t it!’. There was nothing mature or constructive about your comment and if you can’t handle being called a moron after making a moronic statement then you should probably just shut up.

          • Bud Poile

            “So because Matheson didn’t fight and Elias was injured the hit suddenly becomes dirty.” Clayton
            Dumping a player on his head after hitting his head into the glass is intent to injure.Matheson deliberately inflicted damage causing a brain injury.
            Canadian law regarding Intent to injure:
            267. Every one who, in committing an assault,
            (a) carries, uses or threatens to use a weapon or an imitation thereof, or
            (b) causes bodily harm to the complainant,

            is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years or an offence punishable on summary conviction and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding eighteen months.
            Proof of Offence
            Including the essential elements of time and date of incident, jurisdiction, and identity, the crown should prove:

            1.the manner in which the assault occurred (open hand, fist, foot or weapon) / number of strikes
            2. the complainant had not consented to the assault (s. 265(3) and (4))
            3. the complainant had not assaulted, threatened or otherwise provoked the accused
            4.the accused used force intentionally
            5.the injuries caused by the assault / nature of injuries / pictures
            6.seriousness of injuries

          • Clayton

            Nice work Bud Poile with the cut and paste of the criminal code! So are you now advocating charges against Matheson? If so, good luck with that. If not, then your comment is completely irrelevant! Even Denis Wideman shoving a linesman into the boards wasn’t considered a criminal act!

          • Canuck4Life20

            Thanks for proving that you’re a fu*king moron even further by coming back for more. Typical Flames fan, can dish it out, but as soon as someone gives it back he starts crying about how mean Canucks fans are.

          • Clayton

            So, because I have a dissenting opinion I must be a Flames fan? Brilliant logic. I am a regular Canucks season ticket holder, but would call myself a hockey fan more than a Canucks fan. If I had to be pinned to be a fan somewhere you would have to sign me up for the Wings and Bolts.

          • Canuck4Life20

            Oh you’re a Canucks season ticket holder are you and not a Flames fan? Sure you are bud. That’s why you posted this comment on Flames Nation on November 28th:

            ‘Matty is the guy you love when he is on your team and absolutely hate when he is on the other team. Glad he dropped to us in the draft and we get to see him in Red and White!’

            Get out of here with your BS you fu*king moron.

          • Clayton

            Now I am not just a moron…I am fu*king moron! Wow. Love how all logic disappears when someone has a different opinion. Rather than engaging in a meaningful debate about the topic all you have is juvenile name calling! So be it! Not my game, I’ll stick to the intelligent level and engage in hockey conversation. May not always be an opinion others like, but at least it is a few intelligence levels beyond junior high name calling!

          • Clayton

            Oh yea, totally schooled. I am not sure how I can go on after being called a ‘fu*king moron’! Hilarious! With the price of real estate in Vancouver it is amazing I found someone’s head to live in rent free!

          • Canuck4Life20

            Well don’t you have an inflated sense of self-importance. He’s saying you got schooled because I called you out in your lie about not being a Flames fan. I guess you’ve got nothing to say about that?

        • Clayton

          So because I post on a Flames board that makes me a Flames fan. Well crap…guess I am a Flames Fan, Canucks Fan, Oilers Fan, Leafs Fan, Wings Fan, Jets Fan…this get become a long list if I have to post all the teams I have posted about. My only mistake I made here was in any way implying I wasn’t a Canucks Fan. That is why I posted how I posted on Flames Nation…apparently Canucks Fans aren’t much different than Flames Fans. Anyone disses their team they must be a moron or idiot!

    • kermit

      Gudbranson hit was shoulder to shoulder, but poorly timed. He admitted he screwed up. The hit was not violent enough to injure Dube. Matheson put his stick between Petterssen’s legs and lifted him as he pinned him on the boards, he then slammed him to ice in a way that his body rotated on around the stick that was holding him up. It’s the same as a low bridge, but with his stick, not his body. It’s dangerous because the player’s head can hit the ice. Which is why Petterssen has a concussion. The two incidences are not comparable.

    • TD

      You are an idiot. The hit on Dube was early and deserved the penalty. Even Gudbranson said it was and apologized to Dube. But it would have been clean if the puck had been there. That does not make it alright, but it was a hockey play in which Gudbranson messed up his timing. At no point is Matheson’s body slam on Pettersson a legal play. It sure looked like a retaliation for being burned a couple seconds earlier and the slamming of him to the ice should be an intent to injure.

      • Clayton

        “At no point is Matheson’s body slam on Pettersson a legal play.” Nope. Never said it was. Please explain to me where the hit on Dube was a legal play? Not as bad for sure, but still illegal and still dangerous to the player. Still a larger marginal NHLer taking a cheap hit at a young NHL rookie. At least the Flames had a guy willing to stand up for a teammate. Whether you like the code, like the fighting or not, Canucks fans should be worried about the lack of response from anyone on the ice.

  • Jim "Dumpster Fire" Benning

    The passion on here is unreal! I love it. Just very underwhelming that the team we support doesn’t show 1/10th the level themselves. Get well soon EP. Take your time and dont rush things.

  • RootbeerJones

    Matheson gets to have a suspension hearing AND probably has to fight Guddy in January. –That’s all sorts of sh***y and I still feel like it’s not enough. Hope EP is fine.

  • 40years

    The Canucks are going to take a dive after this. Green and Benning can say whatever they want but someone standing up for a 19 yr. old superstar is way more important in the long run than 2 points today. A team that won’t stand up for themselves has no chance. Crying to the league is just a sign of how impotent they are. I was happy they had signed some “gritty” players but if there is no push back in this game the rest of the league will expect the same response in the future. Very disappointing.

    • liqueur des fenetres

      A guy like Cherry would say that you’re never supposed to embarrass another guy on the ice with hot dog moves, etc. Petey broke the code and TG and the vets let it be his initiation into the league. The guys in player safety probably see it the same way and the likely outcome is probably a $5k fine.

    • Killer Marmot

      The team never realized what had gone down until they saw it after on video. It was, after all, away from the puck, which is what everyone is focused on. They just thought that Pettersson had been hurt on a clean check. It took me a couple views to appreciate how dirty the play was.

      Which shoots down all of this “Why didn’t the Canucks retaliate?” nonsense.

  • truthseeker

    Looks like the league is going to fail again. Phone hearing which means 5 games maximum. What a f..king joke the NHL is. Squandering every opportunity to make a difference.

    The only thing that can be hoped in this is that the league contacted the canucks and determined the extent of EP’s injury and that it’s not that severe.

    Them with their stupid logic that the amount of punishment should fit the extent of injury. Ridiculous. The intent is the intent.

  • Kanuckhotep

    Let’s discuss Don Cherry. Recently he showed a series of head shots dished out by Scott Stevens back in the day and praised him for it on Coach’s Corner. Is this any kind of example to show kids about “tough hockey.” I had the “opportunity” to actually see Cherry “play” for the Canucks in the ‘69 WHL. Dr. Stephen Hawking would have been more mobile out there than this bench rider. I guess he got into broadcasting because he was no hockey player, and come to think of it, he can’t commentate either. Can’t stand him.

  • truthseeker

    Let’s take a look at the good old days when the code actually meant something. Let’s see how well Gretzky was protected by Semenko. Cause we all know nobody ever tried anything on Gretzky right? They were all so scared of the retribution by the Oiler meatheads…

  • LACANUCK

    Everyone has been talking about the young kids learning the NHL, but that is also for young coaches.
    In Junior Travis was talking to his team and parents. In Utica, he was talking to his team, Comets brass and the Canucks high ups… please look at me!
    In the NHL, you talk to your team, your brass and the fans through the media! Without the fans, no one has a job.
    2 things can be true at once. You can confront the player and not assault him, ala Tuz. You can bark at the opposing coach and refs and not go in the other teams dressing room, ala Torts!
    Travis wants grit, he needs to show grit to the people that pay his salary. Be mad, ask why that BS is allowed in hockey to the media and your fans, then be a coach in the room.
    It’s BS what happened and the coach needs to validate the ticket buyers feelings or he will not be long for the job. You can understand and not react.

  • Nuck16

    Canucks played the Matheson situation perfectly. On his first shift back, they burned him bad and scored a goal. Nothing is going to hurt him more than that play plus hopefully a 5 game suspension. One they got that GWG with Matheson the goat, the only way that form a revenge was going to stick was if they locked down that lead and no more goals. Perfect, so now Matheson cost them that game because he was scared and unfocused on that critical shift. Plus, they have one more game against Fla and he will have that on this mind leading up to the next one, so we stretching it out on him as he will not have closure until his fight. Guaranteed something will happen in that game, especially have everyone say replays of it after.

      • Bud Poile

        “Grow up ffs.”
        Get some HEAD INJURY education and grow a pair.

        [email protected]_Ballard2: It wasn’t even much of a hit but the whole body-slam is just an unnecessary play. The way the league is trending, you just can’t do it and someone ends up with a head injury – it’s unfortunate and extremely preventable.

        Corey Hirsch on the Pettersson hit: I was watching Matheson and Elias school him and right after he targeted Pettersson. I have no issue with the hit, it is what happens after. The body slam was a total target job and an intent to injure.

        TSN1040’s Dave Tomlinson would have liked to have seen the Canuck players stand-up for the hit to Elias Pettersson and to at least show that as a young player, your teammates have your back.

        Button: Reality is, the law of the jungle exists

        Craig Button discusses the Matheson/Pettersson hit, suggesting it’s not old school to feel that a response of some kind was needed.