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The Roundup

Is Jesse Puljujarvi a bust, assessing all the Flames changes, Jets fans still have confidence, an interview with Glen Sather, the Metropolitan division, Jaromir Jagr and more in this week’s Nation Roundup brought to you by Violent Gentlemen.

In the Roundup we go around the Nation Network and give you some of the best articles of the last couple weeks. Every once in a while it’s good to know what other teams are doing, or maybe you find an interesting article you wouldn’t have found otherwise.

Note* This article is posted across all Nation Network team sites so comments are an open forum.

LEAFS

Case studies in Leafs line matching tactics (Ryan Fancey)

Introducing revamped TLN staff (Adam Laskaris)

If you had to trade one Leaf player, who would it be? (Adam Laskaris)

JETS

Jets should pursue Will Butcher (Rob Mahon)

Hockey news survey: Jets fans still have confidence (Art Middleton)

Wheeler and Scheifle among NHL’s best dynamic duo’s (Sammi Sibler)

FLAMES

Assessing the summer changes (Ryan Pike)

Who should be on the Flames special teams this year? (Ari Yanover)

Flames: 3 players looking at reduced roles in 17-18 (Pat Steinberg)

OILERS

Interview: A chat with Glen Sather (Zach Laing)

Where does the Oilers defence need to improve (Jason Gregor)

The Oilers have found a legit replacement for Benoit Pouliot (Jonathan Willis)

How much interest should the Oilers have in Jaromir Jagr (Jonathan Willis)

Oilers defence pipeline (Lowetide)

Hockeyfights.com – Scrap of the week

More from around the Network

Is Jesse Puljujarvi the latest in Oilers winger busts? (Ryan Hobart)

Metropolitan division: Good and bad of summer 2017 (Cam Lewis)

Canucks should prioritize Markus Granlund this off-season (J.D. Burke)

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  • Oilercory99

    Puljujarvi will likely follow the same road Draisaitl did during his start in the NHL. He played in a men’s league in Finland but needed a little more time to get used to NA style of hockey wich he did playing with the Condors!! He needed help with language as well and with Jokinen here it should be even easier to adjust and feel he will play a much better game this year!!

  • Ragnarok Ouroboros

    The article was meant to be ironic, but kind of missed the mark. It wasn’t until the article discussed Yamamoto that it became clear that it was a tongue in cheek article. If you want to see what a bust looks like, look no further than Jake Virtannen of my Canucks. His off season training regimen includes playing inline skating roller hockey. It’s like he doesn’t want a real hockey career.

    • LAKID

      Ah, just look at the entire canucks organization starting with Linden on down, not as funny as the flames but neck and neck. Oh well they can battle for draft positioning. I would say the canucks win but you never know what Burke could do at x-mas.

      • TheoForever

        Trinity of suck advising Chia, that’s all one needs for comedy relief, well that and one of Pulju’s NHL performances.
        4 ping pong balls and counting. Oiler draft parties by December. Pucker up Lakid………..

        • LAKID

          The Hiring of Don Maloney shows Burke is lining up his fall guys. Burke will be GM by x-mas and Treliving will be the scapegoat. Burke ….. think about that for a minute. GM will be fired , coaching staff will be fired. There will be a fire sale of never seen before in fleasnation. The canucks management is bad but when Burke becomes GM man oh man, can you say Quebec Flamingos?

          • TheoForever

            Burke doesn’t have much to say, even Maloney is answering to Tre these days, but being on the outside and not following hockey you wouldn’t know that.
            I got one question, when you type things in, do you first get permission from the “oiler fan brainwashing brigade” headed by the likes of Gene and Spector. You know the guys that turn every failure and the list is ohh so long, to a positive. Those two have hard jobs trying to put a positive spin on stories like the: Hall, Eberly, Yak, RNH, Schultz, Dubnyk and countless others, …..fortunately the have gullible audience in coiler faithful….
            So, it all balances out.

      • OTOF2

        The Oil are lucky to be able to have rehired Howsen a year after firing him. I can’t believe that no other team jumped on the chance to get him. Another great move by the smartest guys in hockey.

          • LAKID

            So let’s get this straight. Burke is head of hockey operations and has no say? Hmmm. Who hired Don Maloney? Who is Trelivings superior, Burke or Maloney? Do Burke or Maloney have any GM experience? Please tell me Burke was not brought in to negotiate a new arena deal? No I would hope not . Burke loves the west coast though and the NHL desperately wants a team in Seattle? The Seattle Quake has a nice ring to it. The Quebec Nordiques would be good to see back in the NHL. Burke or Maloney will be the Gm’s by x-mas and the coaching staff will be fired.

    • TheoForever

      Let me put it in perspective when comes to Yamo, the #2 prospect in the oiler stable to use Lakid phrase.
      He is comparable to Phillips in our system, Yamo had 9pts and is 5 months younger than our guy. In our prospect system Yamo would fit right ahead of Phillips, which would make Yamo #13.

      • The Ghost of Alex Plante

        Most of your Oiler chirps have been pretty good (coming from an Oilers fan here) but to say Yamo would be #13 on your prospect list is just ridiculous. He was just a 1st round draft pick while Phillips is in the same class as the Brandon Kozun’s of the world… these guys weren’t drafted anywhere close to the 1st round for a reason.

        I’m not pretending to be an expert here, and it might not be the best argument, but you can’t deny there is some quality that separates Yamamoto from guys like Phillips. I’ll be honest, I don’t know what it is, but I’ll put more faith into countless professional scouts, draft experts and consensus rankings that all had Yamamoto ranked miles ahead of players like Phillips were in their draft years.

        • OTOF2

          I haven’t seen either player play but based on goals alone Phillips performed better. Last year in the dub, Phillips scored 50 goals in 70 games, Yamamoto scored 42 in 65 games. Flames 6th rounder putting up pretty good numbers. Take it for what it is.

        • TheoForever

          Thanks I appreciate that, if I’m going to take shots at least I want them to be funny and irritating. 🙂
          To be serious this year draft was weaker, so Phillips would go higher, but not high enough to threaten Yamo. I would take Yamo over Phillips, but I used Phillips as a comparable because of points, league, and size of the player, and irritation factor to your fanbase.
          I usually say about Yamo that he wouldn’t crack our top 10, but it is more like 8.
          All those guys are older and therefore further along the development curve:
          Jankowski, Parsons, Andersson, Valimaki, Kylington, Gillies, Fox, Foo,
          Dube, Mangiapane, Kulak, Rittich, Poirier, Phillips, Klimchuk
          Mangiapane is an interesting comparable to Yamo. We think that Poirier will bounce back now that he is on the wagon. Yamo could overtake some of those people, but only the future will tell.

          • The Ghost of Alex Plante

            And that’s why rivalries are so much fun to be a part of 🙂

            I guess it comes down to how you make a prospect ranking. Is it a pure potential list or a mix of NHL arrival and potential? I can’t argue that any of your first 8 are closer to the NHL than Yamo (other than maybe Parsons and Fox), but I would say Yamamoto’s potential is higher than Andersson, Valimaki, Foo etc.

          • TheoForever

            The list was compiled by Flame fans votes, we do this every year for the past 5 or so.
            It is combination of readiness for NHL, talent level and whatever we believe, 100’s of people voting and arguing about it.
            Valimaki had 61pts in 60 games as WHL dman, if you compare that to some big name d prospects those are outstanding numbers, tops actually, and he is even better defensively.
            Andersson is further along the development curve, but equally impressive.
            Andersson/Valimaki we are projecting to be 2nd pairing cannot miss, but with #2 dman potential.
            Kylington top pairing or bust.
            Fox and especially Parsons are up there in the list because of outstanding achievements in their leagues.
            Foo made it to 8, personally I’m that high on him, and like Magiapane and Poirier better.
            Yamo potential no doubt higher than Foo, but his road is longer that’s all.
            I don’t think Foo has more potential than Andersson/Valimaki due to position. Especially if you consider as potential to be the ceiling and the odds of achieving it.

        • Flames fan since 83

          For what it’s worth: The Summer Showcase is going on right now in Plymouth.
          Philips is playing for Team Canada, and Yamamoto for the US.
          Currently, Philips has 3 goals in two games, Yamamoto has 1 goal, 2 assists in three games played. Small sample, but it shows these players going neck and neck at the same level. Well Philips a little ahead!

          • TheoForever

            You heard here first, I’m not being fair to Phillips he is outperforming Yamo.
            and since Yamo is not a Canadian boy, …….. it is no longer a contest.
            Cheers

        • OKG

          Wrong.

          The differences are:
          Kailer Yamamoto, an affiliate of USNTDP, played on a relatively weak USA U18 squad and got to play with guys like Keller and Fox propping up his U18 resume.
          Matthew Phillips slipped past Team Canada scouts which is unsurprising given Canada is annually stacked with talented players across three different Major Junior leagues.
          Kailer Yamamoto was drafted after his 18YO season allowing him to boost his stock.
          Matthew Phillips was drafted after has 17YO season allowing him to be underrated in the draft (although Craig Button had him top 40 in his rankings that year…)
          Kailer Yamamoto was the most developed player at his draft combine.
          Matthew Phillips is physically underdeveloped as a teenager.

          Basically, both are trending towards the same tier of NHLer, with vastly different paths. Oilers spent a 1st round pick on their guy (see also Jordan Eberle) while Flames found their guy in the late rounds (see also: John Gaudreau). It’s fine that Yamamoto is Edmonton’s #2 prospect, but there isn’t a huge tangible gap between he and Phillips. Calgary just has a better prospect pool overall.

          • TheoForever

            Thank you for correcting me on the Phillips front. When I make a mistake, I’m first one to admit.
            So, in this vain I must resend my take on Phillips.
            Hey, ‘The Ghost of Alex Plante’ we are back to somewhere around #13/#14 for Yamo.
            Feels good to be wrong………..

      • LAKID

        What does that comment have anything to do about anything Cheeto? I don’t expect Yamo to make it either, he could but then look at Johnny Hoggy, he will be gone by the end of the year and now Foo …come on. The fleas don’t have the talent and or grit to compete in Pacific division. Burke will clean house or does he have the power to move the club to Quebec? Sure sounded like it. I really hope calgary gets a new arena but it doesn’t look good .

  • Puckhead

    DIKAL, you got whooped on this discussion forum!!! It’s time to pull up your pants, cinch up your suspenders, straighten your glasses and get ready for another good old fashioned whooping in the next round of Violent Gentleman.

    • TheoForever

      It was a team effort, coiler fans like lakid don’t seem to understand the term, with them it is all about mickyD and Talbot standing on his head.
      It reminds me of a comedy skit about the genius of Pat Burns (god rest his soul) and Dougie Gilmour.
      Pat Burns sends Dougie back on the ice every shift, Dougie is out of breath and dog tired
      PB: – Dougie cannot do everything by himself
      Character #2: – how are we doing?
      PB: – Dougie is doing everything
      Character #2: – good, but coach shouldn’t you send somebody on the ice with Dougie
      PB: – no, no, Dougie is doing great……………..

    • LAKID

      What you talking about -uckhead? I only do that when Iam done cleaning out momma -uckheads stall. That’s pull up the pants, cinch the suspenders. I don’t wear the glasses when tenderizing her pork loin. -uckhead you must try the bacon for breakfast you seem inbread.