Any truth to the reports of VAN taking a C at 5? Good call or should just go for BPA?
— Adam Laskaris (@adam_laskaris) June 4, 2017
The word going into the NHL Scouting Combine was that the Canucks coveted either a playmaking centre or a power play quarterback. In particular, the rumour making the rounds in Vancouver was that Canucks general manager Jim Benning coveted Casey Mittlestadt, Timothy Liljegren and Cody Glass, and in that order.
That’s where things get interesting. The Canucks were one of only three teams to not interview Liljegren. Word is they’re starting to warm up to Cale Makar at Rogers Arena, and they did speak to him at the combine. It’s still interesting that the defenceman most believed was at the top of their board didn’t even get an interview. Makes you wonder how sincere they are about snagging a defenceman.
I always think it wise for teams to take the best player available in the draft — especially a team like the Canucks, with so many needs everywhere in their lineup. Luckily for them, I fancy that the best player available will fill an organizational need at centre.
would you make a deal with the Lightning to trade Tanev, if it included a package revolving around Brayden Point?
— Wasif Husain (@WasifH61) June 4, 2017
I’ve been advocating for a move like this for a while now. I know Brayden Point isn’t a household name and he doesn’t have draft pedigree, as someone who the Tampa Bay Lightning plucked in the third round. He’s still a centre who just turned 21-years-old and put up 40 points in 68 games. That production prorated over an 82 game season would be about 49 points. That would be the third highest mark on the Canucks. The kid can play.
The Canucks probably want a little something to go with Point if they’re parting with Chris Tanev. Elliotte Friedman suggested that the price for Tanev is high, and I’m not sure Point qualifies as that kind of return. It’s a hell of a starting point though.
If we assume Benning is seeking prospects over picks in a Tanev trade, who are your targets from each suitor? ie. Kapanen, VN, D.Strome, etc
— Tristan Anderson (@tristan_canucks) June 4, 2017
Okay, that’s a loaded question. I’m going to pick three suitors who make the most sense and pick a starting point prospect from each organization. I should qualify my answer — none of these players alone should pry Tanev from Vancouver. It’s a starting point.
- Toronto Maple Leafs – Kasperi Kapanen
- Dallas Stars – Valeri Nichushkin or Julius Honka
- Tampa Bay Lightning – Anthony Cirelli
IYO what would it take to get the 3rd from Dallas without giving up 5th? Tanev for 3rd and niemi, tanev + 55th for 3rd and niemi? etc…
— Couch Analyst (@VancouchAnalyst) June 4, 2017
I tend to think that Tanev for Kari Lehtonen and 3rd overall is something the Stars would consider. They want to win now. They can’t have $5.9-million tied up in a backup. If the Stars move Lehtonen, that gives them the ability to buy Antti Niemi out and only suffer $1.5-million in dead cap. It’d be like they’ve just freed up Kevin Shattenkirk money overnight.
All name team "top 5" from the 2017 NHL draft pool
— Stein (@VancouverGent) June 4, 2017
- Sean Dhooghe
- Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen
- Tyler Inamoto
- Morgan Geekie
- Lane Zablocki
why do you hate elias pettersson. was he mean to your bbq
— ryan (@Verviticus) June 4, 2017
I don’t hate Elias Pettersson. Hell, I don’t even dislike him. He’s 12th on my board, which is more or less where consensus has Pettersson. I just don’t think he’ll be the best player available to the Canucks at fifth overall. If they drop back a couple spots, then sure, why not? At fifth overall, I’m not sold. Sorry, bud.
What is better for Virtanen development starting on the Canucks 4th line or in Utica next season?
— CB3 (@CBrierly3) June 4, 2017
That will depend on how Jake Virtanen looks when he comes to camp next year. I tend to lean towards Utica, but it’s possible that Virtanen has a great training camp and forces his way on the team. That wouldn’t be the worst thing either.
what type of return should Canucks fans expect for taking on a bad contract
— X15 (@tjdetweiler15) June 4, 2017
It depends on the contract, really. There are so, so many variables at work here. Not sure I can give you a worthwhile answer here.
How high is Pettersson's ceiling? Is he too much of a stretch for 5th overall?
— Trevor Crawley (@tcrawls) June 4, 2017
From what I can gather, Pettersson has low-end first line centre ceiling. Pettersson at fifth overall is a bit rich for me, yes.
Based on current trajectory, how long until the team could make the playoffs? Until they could compete to go far in the playoffs?
— Brendan Job (@brendanjob) June 4, 2017
To quote Obi-Wan Kenobi “a long time” pauses for a moment of reflection “long time”. I think that with shrewd management, this team can get back to the playoffs in three years. I think four or five is more realistic though.
Ben Hutton to Edmonton for RNH?
— John Puck (@johnpuck1992) June 4, 2017
If I’m the Canucks, I make that trade without a moment’s hesitation.
Do you think NHL combine results actually affect GM's drafting decisions? (ie. Mittelstadt not being able to do pull up/bench press)
— Canuck (@gillisisgod) June 4, 2017
I think it depends on the player. If you’re a player who has significant injury concerns dragging your stock down, the combine can do a lot to help ease the concern of scouts.
What would you like to see as best-case scenario for VAN's 4 centres next season? (in a rebuild)
— Nathan (@natevk) June 4, 2017
- Bo Horvat
- Henrik Sedin
- Daniel Winnik
- Brendan Gaunce
Boone Jenner is apparently available. Would Tanev & the Torts 2nd for Jenner, Hartnell's crap salary & 24th overall be a realistic trade?
— Cory (@nine30shineshop) June 4, 2017
I like massive trades, so I’m going to give Cory full marks for this one. The creativity is on full display. However, I don’t know how I feel about this trade. That seems like a low-end return for a player of Tanev’s quality. I’m also uncertain of how interested in this deal Columbus would be. Their blue line is starting to come together in a big way.
Would Tanev + 2nd rd pick be able to get Dallas 3rd overall?
— Trevor Whitehead (@TrevorWhitehead) June 5, 2017
That should be enough to land the third overall, I think. What a boon that would be to the Canucks’ rebuild.
Are you keeping an eye on any overagers in the upcoming draft? Geekie, Steenbergen, Gregoire?
— ! (@Lucmeister) June 5, 2017
Why, of course, we’re keeping tabs on overage prospects. In fact, the Nation Network Prospect Profile countdown’s included two of them so far. Morgan Geekie and Alexander Polunin make an appearance.
I spoke with one scout who said that he saw some Tanner Pearson in Geekie. Take that as you please. I’m less sold on Gregoire and Steenbergen in the early rounds, but I’d absolutely take a flyer on them later on in the draft.
Who are your dark horses to open team's / fans eyes regarding their capabilities next yr ? Who are your dark horses to make the team?
— Sascha Belagamage (@Silent__C) June 5, 2017
The answer to both questions is Olli Juolevi. I think a lot of people are going to look really silly with the handwringing over Juolevi, who in my estimation is a hell of a prospect.
CM may have the highest potential in the draft. Do You see any red flags with him? You said you prefered CG over him.
— Matthew Parmar (@MatthewParmar) June 5, 2017
I see red flags with Mittlestadt, certainly. The discrepancy between his even strength and power play production is concerning. I think he developed some bad habits playing high school hockey. One scout I spoke with said he was at least three years away from the NHL. I definitely prefer Glass to Mittlestadt.