Justin Schultz Snubs the Canucks

 

After months of speculation, a week of pitches and meetings, and a breathless afternoon, in which, Schultz and his agents called teams who’d been on his shortlist one by one to let them know he wouldn’t be signing with them – Justin Schultz has decided to sign with Edmonton, rather than the Canucks, reportedly his favorite team growing up.

It’s not a big surprise, the Canucks are deep on the blue-line and were likely unwilling to guarantee him either ice-time or a roster spot. Schultz’s signing would’ve been a coup and a game-changer for Vancouver’s prospect pool. As Corey Pronman explains:

Oh well, at least the Canucks still have Chris Tanev – who is definitely NHL-ready, and is a possession demon!

  • KleptoKlown

    Feel bad for his parents…Look how Canucks fans have treated Lucic’s family. Schultz signs with the Oilers and it’s gonna be way worse for them…and hopefully him.

  • erick

    Wow, this guy is cutting off his nose to spite his face! If he signed with the Canucks he could have really put himself in a place to succeed. Even without the playing time “guarantee”, with a little work he could have become the next ehrhoff and have been signing a big retirement contract in a couple years with any team in the league with 10 mil in his first year. Instead, if he goes to the oilers, he might get ice time, but without vigneault deployment, a lot of that oilers ice time will be wasted and magnify any defensive liabilities that he may have. Should have been the Sedin’s caddy on the powerplay, it has been near tops in the league for a couple of years now and would have presented him with an opportunity to shine. He’ll just tarnish in Edmonton and then chase a borderline contract in a couple years once the sheen has worn off in oil town.

    • KleptoKlown

      This just goes to show that dreams can be bought. A die hard Canucks fan as a kid has a chance to be an impact player on a Stanley Cup contending team…instead chooses the team he is more likely to play 20+ minutes every game, get more points, and then hold out for crazy cash.

      Remember this in 2 years when Schultz doesn’t report to camp because he hasn’t signed an over valued contract.

  • erick

    I must confess that I watched the Shultz sideshow develop this morning with increasing unease and distaste to the point at which when it was announced that Vancouver was out of contention my predominant emotion was relief. On a team who’s persona was established by character guys in the past such as Orland Kurtenbach, Stan Smyl,Trevor Linden, Igor Larianov and Willie Mitchell, and is today represented by the Sedins, Dan Hamhuis, Manny Malhotra and Kevin Bieksa, someone like Justin Shultz would be as welcome as a bad odour at a wedding. I see that his college coaches and others are rallying in support of his character which should really be unnecessary for a guy who has yet to step on the ice in the NHL. Character is subjective and if what we saw from young Mr. Shultz today is character, I, for one, am content to let him deploy his in Edmonton.

    • KleptoKlown

      You have a time machine that no one else is aware of? I do think the Oilers will be better this season, but it’s kinda hard to get worse.

      6 straight years of no playoffs. 30th-30th-29th overall the last 3 years.

      No wonder this poorly managed organization has deluded fans still living in the 80’s past glory.

  • I don’t see anything wrong with Schultz’s character from the way he and his reps handled this, and I wish him all the success in Edmonton. Hopefully that team can add a couple more vets on the blue-line, find some goaltending and crawl out from the hockey purgatory their dedicated fans have been subjected too the past 5 years.

    It won’t happen over night, and the CBA will probably get in the way of this Oilers team becoming anything resembling a “dynasty” but they’re going to be fun to watch. Especially when they lose to the Canucks!

  • KleptoKlown

    Assassinating the kids character because he did not sign in Vancouver is garbage. No one knows anything about him, and hes being trashed like hes Shawn Avery’s evil stepbrother.

    Give it a break. Sour grapes is for people with a pension for feeling self righteous and ignorant.

  • KleptoKlown

    “….organization has deluded fans still living in the 80’s past glory”

    At least the Oilers *have* achieved (5 times, for the record) something their fans can glorify.

    ~Guess the calls from Snepts and Rota weren’t enough to sway Justin to Vancouver.~

    Better luck next time.

  • KleptoKlown

    The Oilers have had a glorious past. Anyone denying that or downplaying it is obviously a simple troll looking for attention.

    However, I live in the here and now. Schultz as a ‘nuck would have been great, but that doesn’t change that Canucks will be amoung 5-6 teams that have a legitimate shot at the cup.

    I personally think Mike Gillis is a bit TOO honest sometimes(Other times he’s a dirty lair…go figure.) and that probably was the reason Schultz didn’t go to Vancouver. From everything I have read, Schultz went into these meetings with Vancouver being his pick. Gillis probably told him straight up that he would have to earn his spot on the roster and that nothing is guaranteed.

    Kevin Lowe and crew probably presented Schultz with a throne made of gold and proceeded to kiss his ass.

    I will admit, the Gretzky/Coffee thing was slick. Someone on Twitter was saying that it’s comparable to getting a call from God.

  • erick

    I don’t know who that character comment was directed at, but, if you meant me, I was not actually commenting about his character. Hockey is a business, and I was simply saying that it is my opinion that Schultz has made a poor business decision. For instance, if the canucks had not picked up ehrhoff from San Jose, I doubt he would have ever have gotten that contract from Buffalo. Point being, is that the canucks put players in a position to succeed, and it is often beyond their “true” ability. Ehrhoff and Hodgson being two of the most recent examples. Given the right minutes I have no doubt that Ehrhoff and Hodgson can do well, but many teams deploy their players through a different philosophy. So, my comment is that I believe that Schultz’s decision may lead him to crash and burn while playing hard minutes with the oil, rather then soar from the preferential minutes that would better suit his skill set and that he could have earned through hard work while playing with the canucks.

    The only points that could reflect on his character are his showing zero loyalty to his drafting team (which has never been revealed why?), and the bit of a circus that has surrounded his recent signing. Neither of these events are completely condemning, but, by doing so, he has set the bar high for himself by conducting himself in this way. By setting the bar so high, I again would have to say that he has made a mistake by not choosing the team that would have given him the best opportunity to reach the potential that his actions have pumped him up to have. Sorry, but the oilers are not that team. It’s great that they have a lot of offensive superstars up-and-coming, but by adding another offensively minded player on D, they have not actually addressed their teams true weakness, defense, and Schultz’s numbers may end up reflecting this team philosophy. Teams are paying a lot more attention to advanced stats, and when he goes to sign his next UFA contract in two years, if his numbers are not reflective of an elite D, be it because of himself, or the team, he won’t get an elite contract either. Ehrhoff did exactly that by riding the teams stats all the way to his payday. Then once arriving in Buffalo he did not end up being any better with Buffalo then Hamhuis, Bieksa, Edler or Salo were with the Canucks.

    Heck, even the third pairing d-man, Tanev, has some advanced stats which even outshine Ehrhoff’s Buffalo Performance!

    Anyway, this isn’t about character, just business and logic.

    Cheers all!

    • puck-bandit

      The character comment may have been directed at me because I did comment on what I perceive to be a character issue (see above) in the way Shultz and his advisers handled the whole decision making process which reeked to me too much of the NBA which specializes on “me first” athletes and differs fundamentally from how I perceive the average NHL athlete expresses the values he adheres to I understand the concept that the athletic career is short and fraught with peril and uncertainty but so are the lives of each and every one of us and I find it inherently flawed for a young man to demand and expect that he be given what so, so many NHL’ers have worked hard to achieve just because he is in a favourable market situation. I have no problem with him trying to maximize his reward for his efforts but at least he should have made those efforts rather than blythely declaring that his talents and potential are so great that he will accept nothing less than automatically placed at the head of the line in front of those who have earned the right to be there. I see this as $3.75 mil the Canucks can spend on someone who more closely adheres to their values of honest hard work, team work and community commitment. Good luck to Mr. Shultz. I can live without seeing him in blue and green.

      • puck-bandit

        John, you write like you’re an intelligent man, so do yourself a favour and go listen to the Justin Schultz interview on the Oilers web site. He said that the Oilers did not guarantee him anything. In fact, he said he still has to make the team. Anyone can see that the opportunity in Edmonton to make the team, and contribute, is the best opportunity around for a highly touted d-man.

        Before you decide to slay a man’s character and come off as an entitled and jaded Canucks fan, try to look at the situation in Edmonton objectively and from a 21 year old’s perspective. I think you would have made the same decision. For me Edmonton and/or Ottawa are the best choices for a young man to make the team and contribute.

  • puck-bandit

    Some of the Oiler fan comments are very immature. I won’t waste my time putting your team down because they have youth and a future.
    Justin Schultz may just regret his decision, based on his development in the league that is going to show him that playing with seasoned pro’s not College will challenge him to the max. I would be hard-pressed to say that if he showed up at camp in some of the teams he was looking at, that coach’s just may not want to give him the time that he has no doubt been promised from Edmonton. And for a young guy that has never played a game in the NHL it was no surprise that he went to Edmonton, no challenge, no compete for a spot. I’m pleased the Oil got this kid, just knowing the type of issues that an NHL coach would be faced with if he got scratched for a game or two, this is a very real possibility, then what?
    In wishing the Oil and Justin the best, I am truly grateful that in my mind he picked the right team. Player development is everything, this is one thing we should all know as we gloat about how good we think this kid might be in our league.
    Just a response to the no-cup comment with Vancouver. I will, as I have for 20 years supported all Canadian Teams unconditionally, any teams that plays hard and loses with dignity wins anyway.

  • RexLibris

    I get the Canucks’ fans anger at being told to go away.

    I’m an Oilers fan (in Edmonton, so don’t worry. I don’t “walk among you”) and have seen my team go through this exercise many times. Hossa, Heatley, Brunnstrom, Fasth, Gustavsson, and so on. Heck, I’ve even had to endure the guys that signed extensions here demand to leave.

    That has begun to change. Canuck fans might want to holster their anger and take a little credit. It was a former management team member who helped to being the rehabilitation of the Oilers. Just saying.

    As for Schultz and his decision. Why would anyone call this a dog-and-pony show compared to what Brad Richards put on last year? If I recall correctly, one of the most famous beneficiaries of an NHL spectacle surrounding a UFA holdout were the Canucks when Sundin took his talents to Kitsilano Beach.

    Drance is right. Wish the young man well, and move on.

  • RexLibris

    @RexLibris Wait, are you crediting Steve Tambellini with “rehabilitating” the Oilers? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    As for Schultz, I have nothing against him for choosing the Oilers over the Canucks (and all the other teams). I do, however, think it’s pretty lousy that he didn’t sign in Anaheim with the team that drafted him. That said, I don’t know the situation there: it’s possible they weren’t offering him the maximum entry level contract, in which case they’re idiots. But I doubt that’s the case.

    • RexLibris

      Actually I would give the most credit to Daryl Katz. But following that, I think that Tambellini has done a good job recognizing how awful the team was and having the patience, and humility, to go through this long process of rebuilding. Not all hockey executives can stand being the face of a team that gets it’s hat handed to it year after year while patiently accumulating prospects and draft picks.

      I’m not a blind Tambellini apologist here, but when I compare how he has gone about this process compared to some other GMs (Burke, Feaster, Howson, Snow, Gauthier) then I believe that credit is due.

      I wish he had tried to deal for Keith Aulie, I think that was a missed opportunity if all it took was Carter Ashton.

      As for Schultz, his character will always be questioned and he will have to work the rest of his NHL career to overshadow that. However, I think there are some serious internal issues arising in Anaheim. There are some ownership issues that could see the team start to fall into the same situation as we have seen with Nashville, St. Louis, and Dallas recently. But also, this is the franchise that has let out rumours of trading Bobby Ryan twice in the last year. Once, to put a fire in his belly, I can kind of understand. But again at the draft? Would anyone be surprised if Ryan turned around and demanded a trade rather than be subjected to that kind of constant rumour-mongering?

  • @Skeeter it has been reported that not only were they offering him a max ELC, they were offering him the ability to join the team down the stretch and burn a year of RFA eligibility! He turned down some serious long term money in order to pick his team… Really unfortunate for them.

  • Reg Dunlop

    I don’t know why JS chose not to sign with the Ducks. Maybe he wanted to honor his commitment to U of Wisconsin. Maybe, as he stated, he wanted to play in Canada where hockey matters. R Suter reportedly only will sign with an American team. He is American and this seems a reasonably patriotic choice, not a character flaw. Why not afford young Schultz the same consideration? Along with RNH, as native BCites, maybe one day they will return as free agents with the canucks. After a few cup wins in Oilerville, when they are old and used up, they will be happy to return and we will be happy to see them go.

    Happy Canada day.