Nation Network recap of the 2014 NHL Entry Draft with Steve Dangle and Dimitri Filipovic

Steve Dangle
June 29 2014 06:20PM

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DRAFT RECAP! Steve Dangle of Leafs Nation (me) and Dimitri Filipovic from Canucks Army recap the action from Philadelphia and the 2014 NHL Entry Draft.

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Steve Dangle has a YouTube channel with over 3 million views and is the co-host of the Steve Dangle Podcast on iTunes and SoundCloud. Steve has also worked for CBC, the NHL Network, Leafs TV, Nike, the KHL, and most of all, the Toronto Zoo. stevedangle.com
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#1 Leafs_Wallace
June 29 2014, 07:46PM
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So strength doesn't matter only skill does? Bennett playing against the genetically blessed 1% of the population, ridiculously strong men, not teenagers and his skill will save? If skill can't save Kadri why is Bennett going to be a beast? Because TSN hyped him?

The kid can't do a wide grip pull up, he'd better be Gretzky and never get hit.

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#2 bwar
June 29 2014, 07:23PM
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Gagner about to have the best year of his career. Purcell? Not so much so.

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#3 CMpuck
June 30 2014, 05:22AM
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If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin wrote:

Core strength is what matters most in hockey, and the kid has that in spades. Check out his videos from the combine.

Secondly, he just turned eighteen on the 20th of this month. He has a lot of time to train and fill out.

I assume you have never heard of physical training , since you seem to believe a seventeen year old has reached his peak physically and cannot improve upon his upper body strength. Plus, he does not have a skinny, Gretzky-like frame.

Hell, if everything else fails, pass the kid some GH and watch him bulk up.

Pull ups are one of the best exercises for a good core.

Don't training, son I've ran marathons under 3:20 gave that up for lifting.

Bench 280, squat 315 for reps, do 10 wide grip pull ups :), deadlift 405 in two years of weight training went from 145lbs to 200, all natural. You really don't lecture me on training? What have you ever done?

Fill out while in the NHL, that's a great plan, give him GH, problem is he'll be playing against men on steroids that were already stronger than him in the first place.

No is talking about peak physical condition, the kid isn't even average for a 17 year old. NHL and OHL are different beasts. I love how people pretend that is ok to weak going into the pros.

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#4 freelancer
June 29 2014, 07:26PM
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I will wait until the first couple UFA days to pass judgement. If we sign someone like Grabovski than I will look at this in favor. We bring in a guy with similar point production who is a bigger body and more defensive. If we don't have a replacement lined up. This is a move done in panic and it will be MacT's first huge blunder

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#5 DragonFlame
June 29 2014, 08:07PM
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Leafs_Wallace wrote:

So strength doesn't matter only skill does? Bennett playing against the genetically blessed 1% of the population, ridiculously strong men, not teenagers and his skill will save? If skill can't save Kadri why is Bennett going to be a beast? Because TSN hyped him?

The kid can't do a wide grip pull up, he'd better be Gretzky and never get hit.

What a dumb-assed comment

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#6 Leafs_Wallace
June 30 2014, 07:58AM
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Stan wrote:

Ever heard of Drew Doughty? You know, the defenseman who has two Stanley Cup rings and two Olympic gold medals at the age of 24? One of the best defenseman in the game?Yeah... He couldn't do a pull up when he was drafted either. But I guess that means he sucks, was never able to get stronger, and shouldn't have even been drafted either, right? My gosh some people are so ignorant on this site it's ridiculous.

Drew couldn't? Link to support this claim. Drew is 6-1 213, much larger and heavier than an undersized Bennett. No excuse not to be able to do pull ups (plural) at 170.

If strength doesn't matter, should a team draft a woman if she's talented enough (are you going to call me misogynist for pointing out NHL scouts don't consider women?)

If it's ignorant (dude you're house is made of glass) why do they bother having a combine in the first place? Why did Edmonton pass on Bennett?

Size and strength matter, it just doesn't happen to be in vogue with Leaf Nation bloggers at the moment. Should we stick our heads in the sand and pretend physically weak player isn't at a significant disadvantage in turning pro? Who is being deliberately ignorant here? Time will tell on Bennett, when he bust perhaps we can look back value these qualities that are blatantly obvious in the first place again. If he beats the odds then hats off to the kid though that's a long shot IMHO.

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#7 freelancer
June 29 2014, 07:10PM
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Gagner for Purcell. What is MacT doing?

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#8 DragonFlame
June 29 2014, 06:47PM
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Not entirely dull.

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#9 2004Z06
June 29 2014, 07:25PM
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6'3 205lbs and a .52 pt/gm player, 4.5 x 2 cap hit.

Not a center, but physical, defensively responsible.

No issues with this deal.

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#10 DragonFlame
June 29 2014, 07:29PM
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@freelancer

Why a blunder? Purcell is big and fits the M.O. of the West.

Purcell is not chicken feed.

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#11 CMpuck
June 29 2014, 10:20PM
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RyanCoke wrote:

He did 4 in the pre draft interviews on live tv.

To be fair he did four close grip, a lot easier than wide grip.

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#12 Spydyr
June 29 2014, 07:07PM
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Hey Steve, do the Leafs have Younge street booked this June for the parade yet?

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#13 DragonFlame
June 29 2014, 07:19PM
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freelancer wrote:

Gagner for Purcell. What is MacT doing?

Freaking out about truculence, I would assume.

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#14 CMpuck
June 29 2014, 10:25PM
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Steve Dangle wrote:

Again - show me a situation where those muscles are useful. They aren't. The kid's legs are probably tree trunks.

Having a ridiculously weak back, how does he survive the physical game? Can he cycle the puck, probably not. Hell Dangle makes a video about PK Subban and praising for doing pull ups with plates hanging off his belt. I bet PK trains those muscles for a professional reason. Not to mention a pull is a compound movement involving many muscles, have to be weak throughout upper body not fail to do one. Just saying, it's a legitimate concern.

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#15 DonDon
June 29 2014, 07:27PM
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About Purcell, let's hope the analytics guys get to work and inform us all what the Oilers can expect from this new player.

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#16 CMpuck
June 29 2014, 10:22PM
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People really think upper body strength doesn't matter in the NHL? Really? Lulz

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#17 If Only HIs Name Was Olli Postandin
June 29 2014, 10:42PM
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CMpuck wrote:

Having a ridiculously weak back, how does he survive the physical game? Can he cycle the puck, probably not. Hell Dangle makes a video about PK Subban and praising for doing pull ups with plates hanging off his belt. I bet PK trains those muscles for a professional reason. Not to mention a pull is a compound movement involving many muscles, have to be weak throughout upper body not fail to do one. Just saying, it's a legitimate concern.

Core strength is what matters most in hockey, and the kid has that in spades. Check out his videos from the combine.

Secondly, he just turned eighteen on the 20th of this month. He has a lot of time to train and fill out.

I assume you have never heard of physical training , since you seem to believe a seventeen year old has reached his peak physically and cannot improve upon his upper body strength. Plus, he does not have a skinny, Gretzky-like frame.

Hell, if everything else fails, pass the kid some GH and watch him bulk up.

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#18 Jeff In Lethbridge
June 30 2014, 02:16PM
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CMpuck wrote:

Pull ups are one of the best exercises for a good core.

Don't training, son I've ran marathons under 3:20 gave that up for lifting.

Bench 280, squat 315 for reps, do 10 wide grip pull ups :), deadlift 405 in two years of weight training went from 145lbs to 200, all natural. You really don't lecture me on training? What have you ever done?

Fill out while in the NHL, that's a great plan, give him GH, problem is he'll be playing against men on steroids that were already stronger than him in the first place.

No is talking about peak physical condition, the kid isn't even average for a 17 year old. NHL and OHL are different beasts. I love how people pretend that is ok to weak going into the pros.

Maybe consider working a little "brain exercise" into your routine, then do a few reps on your English! :-)

besides your comments being very stupid in general, they are inaccurate in their assumptions, as others have pointed out by drawing your attention to other weakling useless draftees like Doughty, etc.

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#19 bwar
June 29 2014, 07:28PM
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So where does Purcell slot in on the depth chart? Numbers wise seems like a solid 2nd line winger but then who gets demoted to no point land, Yakupov or Perron?

I guess this strongly indicates that the Oilers either believe Draisaitl is NHL ready or that Arcobello is getting a full time promotion.

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#20 Manfly
June 29 2014, 09:17PM
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Gagner is finally gone! happy days!

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#21 ultrathinzigzags
June 30 2014, 07:30AM
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Looks like MacT just locked up the newfie fanbase. Congratulations

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#22 Stan
June 30 2014, 07:40AM
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CMpuck wrote:

Pull ups are one of the best exercises for a good core.

Don't training, son I've ran marathons under 3:20 gave that up for lifting.

Bench 280, squat 315 for reps, do 10 wide grip pull ups :), deadlift 405 in two years of weight training went from 145lbs to 200, all natural. You really don't lecture me on training? What have you ever done?

Fill out while in the NHL, that's a great plan, give him GH, problem is he'll be playing against men on steroids that were already stronger than him in the first place.

No is talking about peak physical condition, the kid isn't even average for a 17 year old. NHL and OHL are different beasts. I love how people pretend that is ok to weak going into the pros.

Ever heard of Drew Doughty? You know, the defenseman who has two Stanley Cup rings and two Olympic gold medals at the age of 24? One of the best defenseman in the game?Yeah... He couldn't do a pull up when he was drafted either. But I guess that means he sucks, was never able to get stronger, and shouldn't have even been drafted either, right? My gosh some people are so ignorant on this site it's ridiculous.

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#23 KingQuong
June 30 2014, 08:40AM
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Bennett not being able to do a pull up just makes him a better prospect, if he's having this much success now without that strength imagine when he can do pull UPS. Seeing areas that a player can improve is a good thing. It shows that he can still IMPROVE and take his game to a different level. And both tsn and Don cherry both said the drew doughty thing.

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#24 Jeff In Lethbridge
June 30 2014, 02:12PM
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Stan wrote:

Ever heard of Drew Doughty? You know, the defenseman who has two Stanley Cup rings and two Olympic gold medals at the age of 24? One of the best defenseman in the game?Yeah... He couldn't do a pull up when he was drafted either. But I guess that means he sucks, was never able to get stronger, and shouldn't have even been drafted either, right? My gosh some people are so ignorant on this site it's ridiculous.

hahaha what fool Org drafted this "doughty" dude?

hahaha we laugh at their stupidity for totally throwing that draft pick away!

hahaha "doughty" will never be an NHL player, he is weak and undersized hahaha! !

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#25 Jeff In Lethbridge
June 30 2014, 02:18PM
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Steve Dangle wrote:

Well there was a parade in Toronto today and it did contain NHL players.

swish swish

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#26 Johnnydapunk
June 29 2014, 07:06PM
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Gagner Traded!!!!!!!!

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#27 Spydyr
June 29 2014, 07:08PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

Gagner Traded!!!!!!!!

Is this a psych?

Sweet bejebus it is true

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=724511

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#28 Johnnydapunk
June 29 2014, 07:11PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Is this a psych?

Sweet bejebus it is true

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=724511

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#29 SlowTalker
June 29 2014, 07:17PM
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Spydyr wrote:

Is this a psych?

Sweet bejebus it is true

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=724511

There is a very good Tampa Bay fan forum that would deserves some of your hockey insight. Go give them 411 on Gagner!

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#30 #ThereGoesTheOilers
June 29 2014, 07:18PM
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Holy crap, I did not think that would happen today!

Best of luck Samwise!

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#31 Virtual_Xi
June 29 2014, 07:31PM
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freelancer wrote:

I will wait until the first couple UFA days to pass judgement. If we sign someone like Grabovski than I will look at this in favor. We bring in a guy with similar point production who is a bigger body and more defensive. If we don't have a replacement lined up. This is a move done in panic and it will be MacT's first huge blunder

I hit that trash button as hard as I could freelancer. This is a good 'ol hockey trade. both assets for a different team. The 7 year experiment is done. I wish sam well, but i'm sick and tired of his inability to play defence and his streaky point production.

Mac T! hellz yeah!

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#32 2004Z06
June 29 2014, 07:41PM
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bwar wrote:

So where does Purcell slot in on the depth chart? Numbers wise seems like a solid 2nd line winger but then who gets demoted to no point land, Yakupov or Perron?

I guess this strongly indicates that the Oilers either believe Draisaitl is NHL ready or that Arcobello is getting a full time promotion.

My guess is Yak will be on the third with Draisatl. There is a thought that ze German will be a fine set up man for Yak in sheltered minutes. Still need a 2c though.

Arco likely an injury call up.

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#35 RyanCoke
June 29 2014, 10:11PM
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Leafs_Wallace wrote:

So strength doesn't matter only skill does? Bennett playing against the genetically blessed 1% of the population, ridiculously strong men, not teenagers and his skill will save? If skill can't save Kadri why is Bennett going to be a beast? Because TSN hyped him?

The kid can't do a wide grip pull up, he'd better be Gretzky and never get hit.

He did 4 in the pre draft interviews on live tv.

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#36 Matt
June 29 2014, 11:16PM
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LOL Love Steve Dangle... lighten up Dimitri! ;-) Nad once again, I'd give Van a B any day. You seem to lack som serious hockey vision...

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#37 Ted
June 30 2014, 01:09PM
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The Toronto guy is funny.

What slays me is how adamant these guys are about players they prefer. No hockey background or hockey evaluations etc and they condemn players they don't approve of. It's pretty comical, really. Ah yes. Good times.

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#38 BurningSensation
June 30 2014, 01:39PM
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So Sam Gagner at 2/3rds salary, and BJ Crombeen together are worth a 6th rnd pick.

That sounds about right.

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#39 KozyMel
June 30 2014, 10:24PM
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2004Z06 wrote:

6'3 205lbs and a .52 pt/gm player, 4.5 x 2 cap hit.

Not a center, but physical, defensively responsible.

No issues with this deal.

With 13 hits in 82 games, ands a name like Teddy, I hardly think he's considered "physical".

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#40 KozyMel
June 30 2014, 10:35PM
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RyanCoke wrote:

He did 4 in the pre draft interviews on live tv.

I'm 54 and I can do 4 pull ups - big deal!

I won't be battling 215lb, 6'4 centers in the faceoff circle if an NHL game.

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#41 jeremywilhelm
June 30 2014, 11:29PM
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@KozyMel

You're a 54 year old man slagging a 17 year old kid on a hockey blog. Gonna go ahead and guess the only time you've done a pull up is when your mom helps to pull you off her basement couch.

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#42 KozyMel
June 30 2014, 10:31PM
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Steve Dangle wrote:

Again - show me a situation where those muscles are useful. They aren't. The kid's legs are probably tree trunks.

If I'm not mistaken, Bennett is a center.

Centers take faceoffs.

The vast majority of faceoffs are a battle won by pulling the puck backwards.

Upper body strength is vital to being able to win faceoff battles.

Pull ups are one of the best ways to measure the upper body strength of the "pulling muscles".

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