Top 10 stories of the 2014 Canucks Season: Part 2

The Stanchion
April 24 2014 11:28AM

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Last week we covered the top stories of the 2014 Canucks season from ten to six. This week, we hit the top 5! Or the bottom five. Or the top of the bottom. Or.. you know what, this wasn't a very good season.

Gather around children, I want to tell you all a story. 

5. #TankNation is born

Once upon a time, in a land far, far away, there once lived a team that won Presidents' trophies. Not only did they win one, but they won two, TWO Presidents' trophies! They even went to the Stanley Cup Final against the team that shall not be named, and lost against the team that, well, will not be named (the name rhymes with "ruins"). 

Yes, the Vancouver Canucks quick descent into an awful hockey club was so sudden, it left many people wondering what to do with themselves. Sure, there were signs the team wasn't so great, what with all that first round losing, but damn it, you just wanted to believe a team with the Sedins, Kesler, and Luongo were a lock for the playoffs.

Alas, as we all saw, the team had different ideas this year, as they let everyone know in January that they planned on having a shortened season. For a fan base that was used to trying to decide who the best first round opponent to go up against was, or how many points away from locking up the Presidents' trophy the team was, this was new, uncharted territory. Now the fans had to decide between hoping the Canucks could somehow scratch and claw their way into the playoffs, or tank gloriously and get a high draft pick.

This led to a divide amongst fans. On one side, you had the aforementioned #TankNation fans; fans who wanted the Canucks to avoid "pulling a Calgary" by just narrowly missing the playoffs, and thus ruining their draft position for no good reason. For a team whose third highest rated prospect is a second hand used Bauer stick, this seemed like as good as time as any to try and add some depth to the system.

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This meant cheering on Canucks losses, instead of wins, but with the goal of improving the teams future in mind.

On the other hand, you had people legitimately insulted that you would ever suggest such a thing like cheering on Canucks Nation. On the more rational side of things you had some people who would rather watch a team win as much as possible to set a tone for next season, while the extreme end of things had people suggesting they would murder you in your sleep for ever cheering against "the boys", and how dare you suggest you want them to lose, and you know what, WHY DON'T THEY JUST COME OVER TO YOUR HOUSE AND CUT OFF YOUR FACE AND EAT IT, YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE, HOW DARE YOU EVER SAY "THE BOYS" SHOULD LOSE, THEY NEED OUR SUPPORT, THEY NEED IT!!!!!1111

Suffice it to say, I was firmly behind #TankNation and didn't quite understand the anger from the other side, but it was interesting to see the fan based divided over the last part of the season. I think the issue became clouded when people felt #TankNation was suggesting the team lose on purpose, versus what #TankNation was actually about -- watching the Canucks organically lose (as is their way), and thus giving them a higher draft pick..

4. Torts summons his inner Braveheart

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Ah, Torts. Torts has honestly been one of the most fascinating stories for me. When he was on East coast, having his daily battles with "Brooksie", he was an amusing side-bar for me. I would turn on TSN and see a segment on Torts and it was basically a "Who did Torts yell at this week?" sort of deal. He seemed like a throwback to the Mike Keenan era, where the angry dad coach was there to let everyone know that no nonsense would be tolerated.

As we discussed last week in number seven, though, when he arrived in Vancouver he presented an image of having turned that all around. Instead of mean angry dad, he's: caring, he wants to know how he could help you with your homework, but only if you want his help, dad.

Then came "The Backroom Brawl".

Funny story about that Calgary game (the one where Torts went into the hallways and tried to hunt down, and presumably maim or murder, Bob Hartley): I chose to skip that game because, well, it was against Calgary, and I didn't think anything of note would come from it. So instead, I headed to a local wrestling show (ECCW) that was hosting an event at the Commodore called, amusingly enough, Ballroom Brawl. Even more odd was the fact that there was more violence at the hockey game then the wrestling show that night.

My phone basically blew up with texts and tweets five minutes into the show. People talking about fights off the drop off the puck, coaches screaming, women fainting.. it had people talking. Then when the first period ended, Torts lost his freaking mind and charged down the hallways of Rogers Arena, only to be held back by the Flames, as he attempted to get at the Flames coach for putting his fourth line goons out to start the game. All of this was captured beautifully by CBC cameras, who gleefully showed the footage, then sat back and watched as PJ Stock basically orgasmed over his delight at the chance to get angry at Torts.

At the time, I honestly thought it was a good thing. Not the fact Torts charged the hallways like he was in his own version of Mad Max, but because at the very least it might be a rallying point for the team. Here was a coach, so incensed with the other team for trying to take liberties with his boys, that he was going to do something about it. Coming from a coach like Alain Vigneault, this was, if anything, a nice change of pace, a situation where the coach was going to stand up for his team, instead of giggling or sucking on some lozenges.

Was it ill advised? Sure. But again, at the very least his heart was in the right place, was the working theory.

Then as the season wore on, the stories began to leak. Now, it's always hard to know how much stock to put in these sorts of things, but stories about how the players on the team were horrified that Torts had bulldozed down the hallways were appearing left and right. For a team that ended the season looking like it could care less what happened to them, suddenly you had to put some stock into the theory that maybe the players weren't so excited about Torts defense of them after all. Maybe those kids that Alain Vigneault raised in his image were a lot more like their old coach dad then we thought. Maybe the players viewed Torts as some loud mouthed dinosaur instead of the new Torts they were sold on.

Suddenly Torts the Reformed ended the season looking more like Torts the Huckster, a man who sold himself to the owners and couldn't deliver the goods.

3. Eddie Lack gets the Winter Classic

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Ah, the rise of Eddie Lack. From a prospect one person told me the big club felt had no future with the team a couple of years back, to all of a sudden being the top goalie for the Vancouver Canucks. I, like many others, felt that Lack was going to be a back up this season, who might get the shot at the number one spot in a couple of years, if the Canucks ever managed to trade Roberto Luongo.

At the Winter Classic it became clear that the team had chosen Eddie to be their guy. Or at least Torts had chosen Eddie to be his guy.

Right from day one, Torts loved him some Eddie Lack (he often praised his efforts after games), but I assumed that was the coach just being nice to a young player to try and build up his confidence. Then when I saw Torts repeatedly call Kassian a project player, and David Booth a weird guy, I realized Torts probably just really liked Lack, as caring and nurturing a player to build them up was not really his MO.

Which brings us back to the Winter Classic. Luongo admittedly wanted to play the Winter Classic. As much as it's an over-hyped game, it's still a neat feather in the cap for players to partake in. It's seen by a lot of people, and it's a fun story to tell the grandkids. "I once played hockey outside! NHL hockey! Woo!" For Roberto Luongo, who had just suffered through a year of being told he was no longer the teams number one goalie, who had just sat through the Olympics where he was told he was not the number one goalie, it was the final straw to have a team that had told him his time in Vancouver was done, only to trade Schneider at the last minute and beg him to come back, to take away yet another thing from him. 

Now I fully understand people who view this situation and don't care at all about Luongo's feelings. After all, they are highly paid athletes. If Aquilini walked in the room and told Luongo to eat three plates of spaghetti for his own personal amusement, some people would expect him to do so. Luongo certainly gets paid quite a bit of money, which should help ease the pain of any indignities he feels he suffered.

The problem is that it's almost impossible to fully separate the human element from the NHL. I will always remember Kyle Turris playing his first game against Vancouver, back when he was with the Coyotes. It was his big homecoming and he was planning on buying tickets for his friends and family to come watch him play.. only to have Wayne Gretzky scratch him from the game. Wayne Gretzky 1, Kyle Turris 0. 

So yes, while Turris is a professional athlete, and so is Luongo, I do understand that some situations are going to bother you no matter how much you're paid. And certainly it bothered Roberto Luongo because he was granted his wish when he was traded just days later.

The situation became worse when the crowd turned on Eddie Lack during the Winter Classic itself. The crowd, who at this point had sympathized and sided with Roberto Luongo, were expecting to see the star goalie play in the big game. When he didn't, and the Canucks started losing, the crowd began chanting for Luongo and booing Eddie Lack. Torts really put the goalies in a non-win situation here; there was nothing to gain by starting Lack over Luongo for this game, and everything to lose. Piss off your veteran goalie and put your rookie goalie in a hostile environment? The decision made on this day still boggles my mind. 

The end result of the Winter Classic was that Luongo was traded, which led to the team riding Eddie Lack into the freaking ground. They rode him for 19 game straight, due to the fact they were scared to play Markstrom in any game that their playoff fate might rest on.

Eddie got so tired there were stories of him barely being able to get off of his couch on days between games. They rode him so hard that he had to pass on going to the Worlds due to injuries and wear and tear incurred during that 19 game stretch.

Will this effect Eddie Lack in the long run? Probably not. I don't want to build this up as some sort of insane, long-term damaging story line. But it was certainly a surprising enough storyline that had a large effect on the Canucks 2014 season, which puts it firmly in spot three on the list.

2. Roberto Luongo Trade

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Once thought to be an impossible task, Roberto Luongo was actually traded in 2014. 

Roberto Luongo had enough songs and memoirs written about his time in Vancouver that we don't need to go over the impact he had on this club, but his departure was certainly an agonizing story. Going from the storyline of drafting Schneider, building him up the right way, and finally giving him the keys to the kingdom, somehow turned into pulling the chair out from under Schneider, asking Luongo to give it the ol' college try again in Vancouver, only to hastily give the key to the city to Eddie Lack, then punting Luongo to the curb.

In the end, Luongo got to play where he wanted to all along (Florida was his top choice), and Schneider got his wish of playing behind another big-name goalie (I lied, Schneider didn't want that at all), but if you had told someone in 2011 that the Canucks would go from Schneider and Luongo in nets to Lack and Markstrom in a couple of years, they would have laughed at you.

It is an interesting story because we don't know how it will end (Lack or Markstrom could end up being good goalies, Horvat might end up being some demi-god sent from space to help the Canucks win the Cup, or they could all end up being awful), but in the meantime, let's just enjoy what a messed up situation this became.

Go ahead, take a moment.

One more moment.

Ok, good.

This situation of course might have played a part in our number one story of 2014....

1. Return of the prodigal son

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TREVOR LINDEN.

Trev, as he is called by every single person in BC (everyone feels they know Trevor Linden, it's just some weird power he has. It's also weird that if you tell any story about Linden and only refer to him as Trev, people know it's him. "My friend was shot three times, but then Trev showed up and saved him." "Ah, Linden is the best, he always saves my friends when they're shot.") was another odd story this year, in that it seemingly came out of nowhere.

As the season came to a close, people were debating if Torts would be fired, or Gillis would be fired. I thought Gillis would be fine, as he seemed to be close with the owners, but then rumors surfaced that Linden might be brought in as President. Then a day later, Gillis was fired, and Trevor was back. It all happened in the blink of an eye.

Of course, Gillis himself was once brought in out of nowhere like this, back when Dave Nonis was kicked to the curb, so it shouldn't be a big shock that the owners might pull this move again. It was still just very weird to see Trevor Linden, a guy who had been out of hockey for many years and hadn't shown any interest in the Canucks, suddenly brought back into the spotlight.

For PR reasons, it makes a lot of sense. At the end of the day, the Aquilini's like their money, and the season ticket renewal business had taken a hit. Bringing in Trevor Linden would easily sell some tickets to the older ticket holders, who view Linden as the golden child of Vancouver.

Hockey wise, it might also work, due to the fact Trevor was always involved in leadership roles in hockey (captaincy, his work with the PA), the fact he has built himself several successful non hockey businesses, and the former player turned front office model has worked before with Yzerman and Sakic (and failed spectacularly with Brett Hull when he signed Sean Avery for Dallas). 

It's also the most interesting story line heading into next season, as well, because the fate of the new GM and the head coach all fall under Trevor Linden. Will Linden fill the club up with Pat Quinn guys? Will Linden clear out the scouting department? Will Linden signal a giant refresh on the club, or will he simply end up being a puppet of the owners? Owners who have been accused of being too meddlesome as it is? If Linden doesn't fire Torts is it because the Aquilini's really do want Torts as their guy and had a say in it? Will Linden sit back and let the GM run the team, or will he have a heavy role on the team? How much of it is actually PR and how much of it is Linden actually putting his fingerprints on the team? How much goodwill does the Trevor Linden name buy the team, before the fans turn on the golden child himself?

The questions are endless, and it certainly remains the biggest talking point of the season. Will Linden turn the team around and finally hoist the Stanley Cup in Vancouver (that's a TV movie right there)? Or will he fall and burn like those before him? We shall have to wait to find out.

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Current freelance writer for The Province and Canucks Army. You can find me on twitter @thestanchion screaming about sports and making fun of Eddie Lack's gaming skills.
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#1 kevbo
April 24 2014, 11:41AM
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I appreciate your sense of humour and writing style. Cheers.

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#2 PB
April 24 2014, 11:43AM
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I'm not sure Linden's return should be the top story since the general suckage of the team is what led to it. I think the top story should be Tortorella and his incompetence/insanity (Gillis gets the nod for the five year stretch) because it's directly due to Torts that many of the other top stories come about -- and due to the two biggest direct reasons for our failure (injuries and a lack of depth being systemic and longer term issues). Chargegate in Calgary is when he lost the confidence of most of the team I think and not playing Luongo in the outdoor classic lost their trust. His inability to figure out how to use the (admittedly limited) players we have with poor in-game strategies don't help either.

Linden is likely the top story of 14-15.

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#3 PB
April 24 2014, 11:44AM
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Also, I am looking forward to the comments section being populated once again by strange conspiracy theories, less so by the trolls from other teams' fan bases.

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#4 PB
April 24 2014, 11:44AM
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Also, I am looking forward to the comments section being populated once again by strange conspiracy theories, less so by the trolls from other teams' fan bases.

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#7 Fred-65
April 24 2014, 12:26PM
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The story that follows is likely the best. Gillis for all of his peceived warts was an extremely inteligent person. It took him maybe 2 years to fully come to terms of the nuances rquired to be a GM, the bickering, the politics, the back stabbing etc. I'm expecting the same to be repeated with Liden and ask this question why would Aqualinni subject the fan base to this further "junk bond" tactics to the club ?

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#8 Ted
April 24 2014, 12:29PM
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Interesting list. Good food for thought especially since we don't have any other Canuck news at this time!

TankNation has been around for a while now...it may have gone by other names back in the day. I guess I'm old (in my 30's)but I was a fan through the 80's and 90's when the Canucks were more of a joke than anything resembling a contender. Even us die-hard fans would have to make fun of the franchise. It was pretty awful. We didn't see any meaningful change until the late 90's. I can remember cheering for high picks back when but we bumbled those as well back then...I think our default position was to assume the Canucks would stink - we were rarely disappointed.

We've been a pretty solid franchise in the 2000's. I think we're at a crossroads right now. The new GM will need to make some key moves or we're Calgary v. 2.0.

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#9 Ted
April 24 2014, 12:32PM
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Fred-65 wrote:

The story that follows is likely the best. Gillis for all of his peceived warts was an extremely inteligent person. It took him maybe 2 years to fully come to terms of the nuances rquired to be a GM, the bickering, the politics, the back stabbing etc. I'm expecting the same to be repeated with Liden and ask this question why would Aqualinni subject the fan base to this further "junk bond" tactics to the club ?

Yeah, well, Linden won't be the GM and that's the key position. I do agree with some of your points and do NOT want another rookie GM. I like the Benning rumors...great work ethic, entrenched in the key areas and knows the job. Has worked his way up and has helped keep the Bruins a solid franchise for the last while.

I also think he won't be as attached to the core and will make some big changes. The core needs to go (or most of it).

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#11 garth
April 24 2014, 02:16PM
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what happened that fateful in Calgary, in PJ's pants, it's called a tortsgasm

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#12 Nate
April 24 2014, 02:19PM
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This certainly hasn't been a great year on the ice, but off the ice it has been fascinating. I still can't believe Luongo got traded and Torts tried to get into the Flames locker room.

I'm also surprised that Torts hasn't been fired yet. It's been 2 weeks. Is he actually returning next season, against all odds? (I hope not)

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#13 Nate
April 24 2014, 02:21PM
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By the way Wyatt, I like that you tend to wade into the comments section of your posts. Makes your posts more like a discussion.

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#14 Rosy Glasses
April 24 2014, 02:31PM
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@PB

So the team has been over rated and let go anyone who is good and has given the problem playing all NTCs' agreed.

Biggest reason for failure, Gillis, the twins, Edler, Luongo, Ballard, Burrows etc...also agreed.

And country club Linden will do nothing to help the club except to help himself as usual. I agree with all your points.

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#15 Stats
April 24 2014, 02:38PM
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@Ted

If you think the 2000's Canucks team were contenders you really don't see what you think you see.

The team won the game against Calgary and stunk after. Maybe the team has emotional problems...just like when they were bullied by Boston and ran to hide their heads in a hole..their own. Calgary was a good thing, because it showed what a weak minded weak ass team the Canucks have always been with the Sedins. And they will continue to be weak minded so long as the weak minded core is still here.

A dog is a dog is a dog. A weak minded team is a weak minded team is a weak minded team. Period.

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#16 Ted
April 24 2014, 02:42PM
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Yeah I should have been clear about that, the #TankNation was more of a revival, than a new situation just starting. It's just been a while since crossroads like this have been seen.

The WCE decline was done with the knowledge that the Sedins were there to try and take the torch. This potential decline has a much murkier future.

And I remember the glory days of Steve Washburn and Darby Hendrickson in the late 90's!

I don't think the team is that far off. The real kicker are all of the NTCs. We have some great pieces but the NTCs may not allow a trade; if the player OK's a trade then it will be to certain teams only. We probably won't get the best return in either scenario.

I will be stunned if our new GM can hit a homerun on a Kes or Edler deal. I think teams would love Hammhuis but I doubt he waives at all.

Lastly, I really think I can do without E. Kane. His attitude is pretty lame and his price tag may still be too high. I know there was an Edmonton journalist who thought Van could get Kane for Edler plus a prospect/pick. I might do that (depending on pick or prospect) but otherwise, no thanks. Kane has great skills but he seems like a malcontent. I'd prefer Edler + for some young Red Wings players (like a Mantha, Tatar etc).

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#17 Ted
April 24 2014, 02:46PM
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Stats wrote:

If you think the 2000's Canucks team were contenders you really don't see what you think you see.

The team won the game against Calgary and stunk after. Maybe the team has emotional problems...just like when they were bullied by Boston and ran to hide their heads in a hole..their own. Calgary was a good thing, because it showed what a weak minded weak ass team the Canucks have always been with the Sedins. And they will continue to be weak minded so long as the weak minded core is still here.

A dog is a dog is a dog. A weak minded team is a weak minded team is a weak minded team. Period.

Yeah, not sure where you're going with this. Canucks have made the playoffs for several years and missed it only a few times in the 2000's. That's a big improvement. They almost won it all in 2011 - '94 was the only playoff run that can compare.

Yes, it's a history of mediocrity but, lately, it's been better than at any other stretch of time (even with this year's disastrous season).

No, I'm not happy with the franchise but I'm not going to get bent out of shape too much over it. It's a game...it's entertainment...it's a conversation piece. Something tells me most of the guys posting on here are in their early 20's and really don't have the same perspective as guys in their 30's. I might be in the wrong place!

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#18 Stats
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Made the playoffs made the playoffs...did you know that most teams and even most mediocre teams make the playoffs? Plus the fact that the Canucks were in a weak division.

Entertainment? Seinfeld is entertainment. If there is no cup to be won than it's entertainment. Would you pay money or watch any team play for nothing at stake?

It is called competition. If a team doesn't like competing or does not want to compete than that team should stop playing or get out of that league and play in the No Trophy League.

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#22 Ted
April 24 2014, 04:06PM
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Stats wrote:

Made the playoffs made the playoffs...did you know that most teams and even most mediocre teams make the playoffs? Plus the fact that the Canucks were in a weak division.

Entertainment? Seinfeld is entertainment. If there is no cup to be won than it's entertainment. Would you pay money or watch any team play for nothing at stake?

It is called competition. If a team doesn't like competing or does not want to compete than that team should stop playing or get out of that league and play in the No Trophy League.

Yeah, I think we'll just agree to disagree. You may want to get some other things into your life - there's more out there than pro-sports.

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#23 andyg
April 24 2014, 04:39PM
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The Stanchion wrote:

The NTC's are certainly a big hindrance, and it looks like most of the d-men last year didn't want to waive them. This makes the Edler trade chip a bit tougher to utilize.

The one positive is it looks like Linden is open to trading a NTC player, whereas Gillis seemed set in his ways of not trading a player with an NTC (unless he explicitly asked to be traded). So at least there is some wiggle room there now on managements part, if they can somehow a) find a worthwhile trade and b) convince a NTC to waive

I have never heard Linden say that he was willing to ask players to wave their NTC.

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#25 Joel
April 24 2014, 05:17PM
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The Stanchion wrote:

The NTC's are certainly a big hindrance, and it looks like most of the d-men last year didn't want to waive them. This makes the Edler trade chip a bit tougher to utilize.

The one positive is it looks like Linden is open to trading a NTC player, whereas Gillis seemed set in his ways of not trading a player with an NTC (unless he explicitly asked to be traded). So at least there is some wiggle room there now on managements part, if they can somehow a) find a worthwhile trade and b) convince a NTC to waive

I think having been trading himself when he was the face of the franchise, Linden is open to asking players about waiving NTC's.

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#26 Ted
April 24 2014, 05:50PM
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andyg wrote:

I have never heard Linden say that he was willing to ask players to wave their NTC.

I remember he never directly said he would but the answer made you think he was more than open to asking players if they'd OK a trade. I think he has to do this. We need young assets back in exchange for our tradeable vets. Our vets are still worth something in a deal; we're toast if they don't waive the NTCs and end up well beyond their prime and still in Canuck uniforms!

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#27 PB
April 24 2014, 06:32PM
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@Rosy Glasses

Uh, yeah, I didn't say all of that except for Gillis. Nice try.

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#28 PB
April 24 2014, 06:41PM
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You know I was really curious about this particular part of the context that we're in because it's something that I think this is one area in which Gillis is perhaps a bit unfairly judged. His lack of drafting acumen and evaluation of pros for trades and all the rest yeah, he was subpar. But the NTCs aren't a Canucks or even-Gillis thing. The last I looked there were something like 160 NTC or NMC clauses in the NHL out of 690 roster players and 1500 team contracts. So if almost a quarter of the league players are on NTC/NMC's then it seems like more of a gamble for anyone -- if you want to keep your homegrown stars or sign a good FA, then since term and salary are to some extent cap-limited, then this is one of the few incentives you can offer.

We could say that we want Linden or whoever to convince people to waive their clauses but really why would they unless it was in their very best interest? And if it's increasingly the norm (especially for established players) I wonder what the bigger repercussions might be in doing so. This isn't the era of the Muskoka Five anymore

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#29 fansfromotherteams
April 24 2014, 08:33PM
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@PB

How do we know it's not you doing it?

Dont make accusations without proof, otherwise it makes you look guilty.

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#30 Rosy Glasses
April 24 2014, 08:35PM
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Holy excuses and scape goats Batcanuck-man, but I've heard them all before...from you.

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#31 Stats
April 24 2014, 08:36PM
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@Ted

Then why are you always here?

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#32 andyg
April 24 2014, 09:05PM
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Ted wrote:

I remember he never directly said he would but the answer made you think he was more than open to asking players if they'd OK a trade. I think he has to do this. We need young assets back in exchange for our tradeable vets. Our vets are still worth something in a deal; we're toast if they don't waive the NTCs and end up well beyond their prime and still in Canuck uniforms!

A rebuild is not going to happen over night. It will take a few years. Kes,Beiksa.and Hamuis only have 2 years left. If Kes wants to go then move him when the price is right. The other 2 could play another year and then be moved in the last year of their deal.(or not)

I don't want to hold out as long as Calgary but do not want to turn the team over to kids like Edmonton has done. This year was a blessing in disguise. We still have a solid core and are going to pick 6th. We have 5 or 6 decent prospects but we don't need to rush them at this point.

Fans need to relax!(get excited about the future)

Maybe they will keep Torts for another year and we will be looking at a top 3 next year.

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#33 Lemming
April 24 2014, 09:15PM
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Any player who was appalled by Torts rushing the Calgary locker room should take a good, long look in the mirror.

If your coach is willing to go the distance for you, and your reaction is to tune him out with disgust and contempt, I'd rather you were off the team, because that's probably one of the least team-centric attitudes to have.

Torts is also so entertaining...I don't want him to go!!

Also, Hartley is a piece of crap. He really is.

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#34 Alpha C.
April 24 2014, 11:23PM
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Well well, what do we have here? Someone who actually has logic on this site? That's unheard of!

Actually, I wasn't being sarcastic, you are right. The fact is when your coach is willing to go battle for you, and you as team sit there and implode for weeks after wards... it says that the team has no character or heart.

We all saw the same thing during the finals. After the Rome hit, the whole team coward like little mice. Not one push back, not a damn thing. Torts proved in Calgary that this team not only does not stand up for their team mates, they don't even stand up for themselves as well. Such a team deserves neither praise nor victory.

And if the same group of lions from the oz return next year, you will see the same thing again. this core had the whole year to show us what they can do and not surprisingly they showed us they can't do anything. You guys need to stop asking donkeys to be race horses. It's not even fair for the donkeys.

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#35 Ted
April 25 2014, 10:14AM
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Then why are you always here?

I'd miss you far too much if I were to go...

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#36 Stats
April 25 2014, 02:19PM
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I'm sure NM00 would miss you the most if you went...

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#37 Can Not Nucks
April 25 2014, 02:40PM
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"Will Linden turn the team around and finally hoist the Stanley Cup in Vancouver (that's a TV movie right there)? Or will he fall and burn like those before him? We shall have to wait to find out."

If Trevor Linden was smart as he thinks he is, he should realize that he was hired as a poster and should do what posters do best, sit there on a wall.

As for Linden bringing Vancouver a cup or not my bet will be on the negative. Kevin Lowe had four cups to use as an excuse, what cups do Trevor have to use? 50 years of empty cup promises will come easier than I thought.

I saw the team during the Linden era and Linden was certainly not a leader that would get you to any cup, especially when he had a hard time handing his C over to a guy who was way more qualified than he was.

Vancouver has been a grave yard for any good players and any one that was anyone failed here because of the entrenched system of mediocrity.

Torts, Messier, Keenan, Bure, Naslund, Crawford, and on and on. They all failed and were run out by the media shills and their fans. Why? Because Canuck fans really do not want to win and prefer losing instead.

It would be so funny if the Blues won the cup this year and Canuck fans had one less team to point their fingers and say " See, that's one team who haven't won the cup too so we can't be that bad!"

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#38 Ted
April 25 2014, 06:56PM
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Stats wrote:

I'm sure NM00 would miss you the most if you went...

Ah yes...good old SFB00...I'm not sure why but I get the visual of someone stepping in dog crap when his name comes up...

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#39 Ted
April 25 2014, 06:57PM
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Can Not Nucks wrote:

"Will Linden turn the team around and finally hoist the Stanley Cup in Vancouver (that's a TV movie right there)? Or will he fall and burn like those before him? We shall have to wait to find out."

If Trevor Linden was smart as he thinks he is, he should realize that he was hired as a poster and should do what posters do best, sit there on a wall.

As for Linden bringing Vancouver a cup or not my bet will be on the negative. Kevin Lowe had four cups to use as an excuse, what cups do Trevor have to use? 50 years of empty cup promises will come easier than I thought.

I saw the team during the Linden era and Linden was certainly not a leader that would get you to any cup, especially when he had a hard time handing his C over to a guy who was way more qualified than he was.

Vancouver has been a grave yard for any good players and any one that was anyone failed here because of the entrenched system of mediocrity.

Torts, Messier, Keenan, Bure, Naslund, Crawford, and on and on. They all failed and were run out by the media shills and their fans. Why? Because Canuck fans really do not want to win and prefer losing instead.

It would be so funny if the Blues won the cup this year and Canuck fans had one less team to point their fingers and say " See, that's one team who haven't won the cup too so we can't be that bad!"

Wow, you're really an ignorant loser, aren't you. Go on Craigslist and get a life. Then maybe go outside and play. It's a nice day out.

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#40 Guest
April 26 2014, 01:50AM
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Ted...but aren't you the guy who always gets pissed off at NM00 because he doesn't buy into your delusional views on the Canucks?

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#41 Ted
April 26 2014, 11:41AM
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Ted...but aren't you the guy who always gets pissed off at NM00 because he doesn't buy into your delusional views on the Canucks?

Maybe comment when you learn how to read? Idiot00 likes to spew the most moronic comments I have ever heard and then expects people to think they're gospel. I really enjoy pointing out his ignorance etc. He is truly a moron. I present views and fully acknowledge they're my opinion; they could be right and they certainly could be wrong. Idiot00 likes to think his views are the correct ones. I just like presenting facts to show how wrong he is and then enjoy making fun of him. Anyone so delusional...but then I think perhaps he has a form of mental illness. So, Loser00, I hope you're not mentally ill cuz then I'd feel bad...

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#42 Guest
April 26 2014, 01:48PM
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@Ted

So in other words, you're a delusional angry Canucks fanboy who thinks everyone else is wrong based on your team having won nothing in 44 years, 45 along the way? I feel so bad for NM00 and not you...

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#43 PB
April 28 2014, 09:22AM
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@Ted

Don't feed the trolls.

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