Canucks Army Draft Lottery Live Chat

Dimitri Filipovic
April 15 2014 04:59PM

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Who needs the playoffs when you've got the NHL Entry Draft to get excited about, right? RIGHT? That's the line of thinking you'll need to start becoming comfortable with if you'd like to sleep at night in the coming weeks, as you watch other compete for the Stanley Cup while your favourite team doesn't.

Whenever things aren't going all that well in the present, a good compensatory mechanism is to look ahead to the future. That all starts tonight, as the ping pong balls will be picked and the draft order for June 27th's event in Philadelphia will be determined. 

The Canucks head into it with a 6.2% chance of winning the 1st overall pick. Let's hope the team didn't start Jacob Markstrom and Mike Zalewski in the final games of the season all for nothing. 

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Dimitri Filipovic writes about hockey on the internet, and is the Managing Editor of Canucks Army. You can follow him on Twitter @DimFilipovic, and email him at dimitri.filipovic@gmail.com.
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#1 NM00
April 15 2014, 05:15PM
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1. Fire Gillis

2. Tank all the way down to #25

3. Win the draft lottery

4. Fire Tortorella

5. Hire new GM

6. Select Sam Reinhart 1st overall

7. Move the AHL team to Abbotsford

8. Make some BS fantasy trade for Evander Kane

9. Sign UFA Jaroslav Halak

10. Reset complete

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#2 The Benevolent Orca
April 15 2014, 05:26PM
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NM00 wrote:

1. Fire Gillis

2. Tank all the way down to #25

3. Win the draft lottery

4. Fire Tortorella

5. Hire new GM

6. Select Sam Reinhart 1st overall

7. Move the AHL team to Abbotsford

8. Make some BS fantasy trade for Evander Kane

9. Sign UFA Jaroslav Halak

10. Reset complete

Kane seems to have a lot of baggage off the ice. Not something all that great for the locker room.

Wether I agree with this list or not.... I feel bad for Trevor Linden now...

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#3 Dustin
April 15 2014, 05:31PM
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NM00 wrote:

1. Fire Gillis

2. Tank all the way down to #25

3. Win the draft lottery

4. Fire Tortorella

5. Hire new GM

6. Select Sam Reinhart 1st overall

7. Move the AHL team to Abbotsford

8. Make some BS fantasy trade for Evander Kane

9. Sign UFA Jaroslav Halak

10. Reset complete

And as a part of the reset, who do you bring in as the new coach?

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#4 NM00
April 15 2014, 05:34PM
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@The Benevolent Orca

Does Kane have any more baggage than Stanley Cup champions Mike Richards & Jeff Carter?

Or Tyler Seguin?

If Winnipeg is in the mood to sell low on Kane, the Canucks should at least inquire.

Even though I suspect other teams have better assets to offer...

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#5 NM00
April 15 2014, 05:36PM
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@Dustin

That's up to the new GM.

As long as it's not Mike Keenan or Randy Carlyle, I'm open to most anyone...

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#6 argoleas
April 15 2014, 06:04PM
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NM00 wrote:

Does Kane have any more baggage than Stanley Cup champions Mike Richards & Jeff Carter?

Or Tyler Seguin?

If Winnipeg is in the mood to sell low on Kane, the Canucks should at least inquire.

Even though I suspect other teams have better assets to offer...

Agreed. I think the Seguin example is a good one. As such, the Kane angle should not be dismissed.

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#7 Jamie E
April 15 2014, 06:20PM
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argoleas wrote:

Agreed. I think the Seguin example is a good one. As such, the Kane angle should not be dismissed.

Let's be more straightforward. Anyone who "dismisses" the "Kane angle" is really, really unintelligent.

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#8 PB
April 15 2014, 06:26PM
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@NM00

Amen to that.

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#9 PB
April 15 2014, 06:29PM
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@The Benevolent Orca

The "baggage" that Kane seems to have has to do with a hypersensitive media environment in Winnipeg and insane fans who seem to be outraged by him being, a 21-year-old. It's hard to take most of this stuff seriously -- at least Chicago had the good sense to realize that their Kane was young and dumb (though beating up the cabbie wasn't exactly glorious) instead of jettisoning him like Boston did Seguin or Philly did Carter and Richards.

If Winnipeg is dumb enough to sell low on Kane we should be all over it -- but there's no way that we have enough to offer if a bidding war opens up. People who think that Kesler should fetch us the moon should give their head a shake -- Evander Kane should (and will) command a far greater price on the open market.

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#10 NM00
April 15 2014, 06:36PM
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Typically I don't like to promote racism in hockey.

However, I'll make an exception if Leon Draisaitl does not have the correct passport for the Flames and/or the Islanders/Sabres...

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#11 NM00
April 15 2014, 06:57PM
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That's a good point about Patrick Kane and the Blackhawks.

I'm willing to put up with alleged off ice nonsense from a premium player like Evander Kane.

I don't have as much patience when a coach like Torts, Keenan or Carlyle has off ice issues, though...

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#12 Senrik Hedin
April 15 2014, 07:46PM
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so reset=kane basically

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#13 andyg
April 15 2014, 08:53PM
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NM00 wrote:

1. Fire Gillis

2. Tank all the way down to #25

3. Win the draft lottery

4. Fire Tortorella

5. Hire new GM

6. Select Sam Reinhart 1st overall

7. Move the AHL team to Abbotsford

8. Make some BS fantasy trade for Evander Kane

9. Sign UFA Jaroslav Halak

10. Reset complete

So we know we are not getting Reinhart. (unless we make a trade)

Moving the farm to some where in the lower main land would be smart and good for the over all brand.(lets hope)

You said you you would come up with a list of who you would pick once we got to the end.

So?

I agree with Halak. (not a full rebuild kind of move though)

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#14 Phillibilly
April 15 2014, 10:26PM
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1. Stop using illegal drugs

2. Fire Linden

3. Fire the entire scouting staff

4. Get rid of any Canuck Alumni

5. Get rid of the entire core

6. Get on knees and beg Scotty Bowman to come

7. A life time contract and all powers to Bowman

8. Let Bowman evaluate Torts.

9. Send Edler to Russian Gulag. 10. Reset complete.

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#15 argoleas
April 15 2014, 10:27PM
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NM00 wrote:

That's a good point about Patrick Kane and the Blackhawks.

I'm willing to put up with alleged off ice nonsense from a premium player like Evander Kane.

I don't have as much patience when a coach like Torts, Keenan or Carlyle has off ice issues, though...

I dont think any team needs to put up with any such nonsense any more than any other employer, although to be fair, no employee should put it with any BS from employer (on ice as well as off) as well.

The main question is whether the player puts hockey first. If yes, then off ice stuff can be worked out when player realizes it is to his own benefit to fix those issues. I think Kassian is a good example. Clearly he has become more professional. As long as he doesn't get into trouble, and it does not affect his game, let him party and drink as much beer as he wants. A hockey career is not a 10-20 year prison sentence.

We can also factor in the fact that Kane may really welcome playing back home. Wont affect his trade value to Winnipeg, but may help with those off ice issues.

But really, this is still a pipe dream as even at a reduced price, he wont come cheap. Still say top pick and top prospect going other way. Not sure that is a good idea.

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#16 argoleas
April 15 2014, 10:28PM
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Phillibilly wrote:

1. Stop using illegal drugs

2. Fire Linden

3. Fire the entire scouting staff

4. Get rid of any Canuck Alumni

5. Get rid of the entire core

6. Get on knees and beg Scotty Bowman to come

7. A life time contract and all powers to Bowman

8. Let Bowman evaluate Torts.

9. Send Edler to Russian Gulag. 10. Reset complete.

You forgot

11. "Firebomb Vancouver"

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#17 argoleas
April 15 2014, 10:29PM
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Senrik Hedin wrote:

so reset=kane basically

If only

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#18 Phillibilly
April 15 2014, 10:56PM
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@argoleas

Don't need to. That's already on Vancouver rioters list.

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#19 Jagrwire
April 15 2014, 10:59PM
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@Dustin

Canuck should bring in Don 'the shill' Taylor as the coach. Problem solved.

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#20 AqotopA
April 16 2014, 02:17AM
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Yawn. Who cares? we all know the Canucks are going to eventually trade away who ever they pick anyways.

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#21 ga5665
April 16 2014, 03:30AM
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The least they could have done was to have a cute chick hold up the card. Instead they get that fat bald guy in a suit.

#Sobush

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#22 NM00
April 16 2014, 12:05PM
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@andyg

Assuming Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad do not slip, I'd probably go Draisaitl, Dal Colle & maybe Nylander next.

That may change as we get closer to the draft and I learn more about these guys...

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#23 NM00
April 16 2014, 12:12PM
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@argoleas

Sure teams don't have to put up with nonsense, either.

But then you run the risk of, for example, selling low on Seguin, Carter, Richards etc.

These are millionaires in their early 20s.

Why wouldn't they enjoy their priviledge?

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#24 Fred-65
April 16 2014, 01:08PM
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Interesting Linden commented about "big" & "forwards" in the same interview. We're all going to know how Linden thinks after this draft

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#25 andyg
April 16 2014, 06:56PM
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NM00 wrote:

Assuming Bennett, Reinhart, Ekblad do not slip, I'd probably go Draisaitl, Dal Colle & maybe Nylander next.

That may change as we get closer to the draft and I learn more about these guys...

At this point I have Ehlers and Virtanen unless one of the top 5 slides.

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#26 Marsh
April 16 2014, 09:47PM
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NM00 wrote:

Typically I don't like to promote racism in hockey.

However, I'll make an exception if Leon Draisaitl does not have the correct passport for the Flames and/or the Islanders/Sabres...

What "race" is Draisaitl? Perhaps you mean "nationality"? Haven't passed Social Studies 10 yet? Or English?

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