Canucks Training Camp Set to Get Underway

Dimitri Filipovic
September 10 2013 04:47PM


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While talking about prospects and thinking about the future has its moments, I'm sure we're all ready to see the familiar faces of the Canucks get back onto the ice and compete. Thankfully, the time for that is rapidly approaching as the team's main training camp is set to kick off tomorrow (Wednesday September 11th). While it's still not quite game action, it certainly provides intrigue as jockeying for open roster spots heats up. Keep in mind that the regular season opener is a measly 22 sleeps away.

Read on past the jump for the roster, and the schedule.

The next few weeks mean different things for different players, depending on the point they're at in their respective careers. There's of course the established veterans that are assured a spot on the team, and will use this time to get their rhythm down and round into shape so that they can hit the ground running right off the bat.

But beyond that, we'll also be getting a good look at the recently drafted prospects, who will surely be looking to make their mark and get their feet wet going up against NHL players. And then there's the other fringe players will be looking to earn a roster spot by turning some heads and impressing the coaching staff. There's still a handful of decisions that need to be made in terms of roster construction before the regular season opens on October 3rd in San Jose, making the next few weeks critical for many of the attendees.

The more notable competitions will be between Eddie Lack and Joacim Eriksson for the right to back up Luongo, and between Yannick Weber and Frankie Corrado for the 6th defenseman slot. Meanwhile, there's also some spots up for grabs in the bottom 6 up front, particularly down the middle.

John Tortorella had the following to say about the topic of training camp back in July (during the team's summer summit):

"We have our camp set. It's written out. It will be a very rigorous camp. The testing and the conditioning will be the main focus. Both the physical, and the mental conditioning. I think how athletes present themselves when they're being tested will show me where they want to be with the club. I know about the Sedins, and I know about Kesler, but I don't know much about that middle part of the lineup and I won't until we get in the room for camp. "

Below is the list of players that will be coming to the 2013-14 edition of training camp. By my count, there are 21 defensemen, 35 forwards, and 5 goalies on the roster. 

Forwards

Player Birthdate
Darren Archibald February 9, 1990
Ludwig Blomstrand March 8, 1993
David Booth November 24, 1984
Alex Burrows April 11, 1981
Cole Cassels May 4, 1995
Brandon DeFazio September 13, 1988
Mitch Elliot July 15, 1993
Benn Ferriero April 29, 1987
Alex Friesen January 30, 1991
Brendan Gaunce March 25, 1994
Alexandre Grenier September 5, 1991
Zach Hall April 29, 1993
Zach Hamill September 23, 1988
Jannik Hansen March 15, 1986
Chris Higgins June 2, 1983
Kyle Hope April 2, 1993
Bo Horvat April 5, 1995
Nicklas Jensen March 6, 1993
Zack Kassian January 24, 1991
Ryan Kesler August 31, 1984
Kellan Lain August 11, 1989
Alexandre Mallet May 22, 1992
Jesse Mychan July 2, 1992
Wes Myron August 16, 1992
David Pacan March 31, 1991
Pascal Pelletier June 16, 1983
Brad Richardson February 4, 1985
Mike Santorelli December 14, 1985
Jordan Schroeder September 29, 1990
Daniel Sedin September 26, 1980
Henrik Sedin September 26, 1980
Tom Sestito September 28, 1987
Hunter Shinkaruk October 13, 1994
Colin Stuart July 8, 1982
Dale Weise August 5, 1988

Defensemen 

Player Birthdate
Peter Andersson April 13, 1991
Andrew Alberts June 30, 1981
Jeremie Blain March 19, 1992
Alex Biega April 4, 1988
Kevin Bieksa June 16, 1981
Anton Cederholm February 21, 1995
Frank Corrado March 26, 1993
Alex Edler April 21, 1986
Jason Garrison November 13, 1984
Sacha Guimond March 28, 1991
Dan Hamhuis December 13, 1982
Miles Liberati June 21, 1995
Evan McEneny May 22, 1994
Patrick Mullen May 6, 1986
John Negrin March 25, 1989
Adam Polasek July 12, 1991
Yann Sauve February 18, 1990
Jordan Subban March 3, 1995
Chris Tanev December 20, 1989
Henrik Tommernes August 28, 1990
Yannick Weber September 23, 1988

Goaltenders

Player Birthdate
Joe Cannata January 2, 1990
Mathieu Corbeil September 27, 1991
Joacim Eriksson April 9, 1991
Eddie Lack January 5, 1988
Roberto Luongo April 4, 1979
(s/t to Jason Botchford for providing the list).

Schedule


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*The Canucks will also be opening the doors of Rogers Arena to fans who want to watch the team's scrimmage at 8:30 AM on Friday September 13th, Saturday September 14th, and Sunday September 15th. All you have to do get in and get a sneak peak is fill out the form here.

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Dimitri Filipovic writes about hockey on the internet, and is the Managing Editor of Canucks Army. You can follow him on Twitter @DimFilipovic, and email him at dimitri.filipovic@gmail.com.
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#1 JFR
September 10 2013, 05:01PM
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This should be one of the more interesting training camps in quite a while, not just from a line stand point but how Torts conducts the whole thing. Vets mixed with rookies and FA cast offs should make for some drama. I frankly thought AV was too soft on the team especially after the '11 finals, when he gave the starters the pre season off because the year before was so long. Expressions like that give athletes a built in excuse to come up short. These guys are pros and should be challenged to come to play every day. I don't mean physically beat each other up, challenge each other and themselves to improve. Getting that close to the cup should want a team to push more not easssse into things. Hopefully Booth doesn't fracture a hip on his conditioning skate this year!

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This should be one of the more interesting training camps in quite a while, not just from a line stand point but how Torts conducts the whole thing. Vets mixed with rookies and FA cast offs should make for some drama. I frankly thought AV was too soft on the team especially after the '11 finals, when he gave the starters the pre season off because the year before was so long. Expressions like that give athletes a built in excuse to come up short. These guys are pros and should be challenged to come to play every day. I don't mean physically beat each other up, challenge each other and themselves to improve. Getting that close to the cup should want a team to push more not easssse into things. Hopefully Booth doesn't fracture a hip on his conditioning skate this year!

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#3 loinstache
September 10 2013, 05:37PM
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Any updates on Booth's status? Frankly wouldn't be too upset if he missed the start of the season to be '100%' while Jensen gets a look in an offensive/play-driving role.

I also feel it's been oddly quiet on the Schroeder front... perhaps he dominates camp and shows he deserves a spot in the middle. And then of course a question of who occupies the (presumably) fourth line in the middle... sucks that I'm away for all of the preseason, I would like to see what Lain is capable of.

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#4 NM00
September 10 2013, 05:53PM
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Tim Thomas is still available and would be a good replacement for Cory Schneider.

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#5 Peachy
September 10 2013, 06:40PM
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NM00 wrote:

Tim Thomas is still available and would be a good replacement for Cory Schneider.

Nah, Tim Thomas wasn't drafted, so there's no way he could be an NHL-quality goaltender.

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#6 NM00
September 10 2013, 07:02PM
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Peachy wrote:

Nah, Tim Thomas wasn't drafted, so there's no way he could be an NHL-quality goaltender.

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Thomas was drafted in 1994.

No need to make things up.

Joseph, Thomas, Roloson have all had good NHL careers despite being undrafted/late drafted North Americans.

Of course, they were first draft eligible 20+ years ago which has little to do with the current NHL landscape.

Thomas may very well be a huge bargain. The Canucks would be wise to explore signing an undervalued player.

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#7 Lemming
September 10 2013, 07:17PM
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Based on what we all know of Thomas' political views, I'm pretty sure he would hate Vancouver.

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#8 NM00
September 10 2013, 07:25PM
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@Lemming

Maybe a Canadian market would make it easier for him to express his views on American politics.

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#10 NM00
September 10 2013, 07:43PM
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@Dimitri Filipovic

Why wouldn't Thomas have a legitimate chance at #1 in Vancouver?

Aside from this past season in which he was inactive, Thomas has beaten Luongo in regular season save percentage every year beginning with 2007-2008.

And the playoffs, well...it's not close.

Especially since meltdowns have become a part of Luongo's repertoire starting with game 6 in 2009.

If Schneider can win the #1 job from Luongo, why can't Thomas?

Considering the Canucks were outshot at even strength last year, maintaining a save percentage advantage is vital.

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#11 Ted
September 10 2013, 08:01PM
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@NM00

You never cease to amaze. I really hope you were joking when you suggested Timmy Thomas as a possible for the Canucks.

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#12 Ted
September 10 2013, 08:02PM
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NM00 wrote:

Why wouldn't Thomas have a legitimate chance at #1 in Vancouver?

Aside from this past season in which he was inactive, Thomas has beaten Luongo in regular season save percentage every year beginning with 2007-2008.

And the playoffs, well...it's not close.

Especially since meltdowns have become a part of Luongo's repertoire starting with game 6 in 2009.

If Schneider can win the #1 job from Luongo, why can't Thomas?

Considering the Canucks were outshot at even strength last year, maintaining a save percentage advantage is vital.

OMFG. I don't think Captain Coiler was joking. Wow. Just wow.

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#13 NM00
September 10 2013, 08:11PM
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@Ted

While I doubt the Canucks are at the top of Thomas' wishlist, why shouldn't the Canucks explore it?

The Canucks could replace Schneider's production while adding Hovart to the organization.

That's the kind of asset management I can get behind.

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#14 Ted
September 10 2013, 08:36PM
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NM00 wrote:

While I doubt the Canucks are at the top of Thomas' wishlist, why shouldn't the Canucks explore it?

The Canucks could replace Schneider's production while adding Hovart to the organization.

That's the kind of asset management I can get behind.

@Cleveland Steamer

Well, Captain Coiler, wouldn't that also mimic the goalie controversy we had here for almost 2 years. No clear cut #1? Will Timmy T sign for that cheap where we'd fit him in under the salary cap?

I think you've locked down your rep as troll and mental midget.

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1. The goalie controversy produced an elite level tandem for 3 years.

2. The last 4 Stanley Cup champions haven't exactly had a clear cut #1 to start the season.

3. Thomas can be signed to a bonus-laden contract.

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#16 Lemming
September 10 2013, 09:22PM
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As long as he's contractually obligated to pump Lu's tires.

Seriously, I think he just got new ones on his truck, they probably need pumping.

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#17 JCDavies
September 11 2013, 09:11AM
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RE: Thomas

This is sarcasm, right?

After all the comments about Canucks fans and their ridiculous rumours/comments that NEED to stop ...

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#18 Ted
September 11 2013, 09:50AM
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NM00 wrote:

1. The goalie controversy produced an elite level tandem for 3 years.

2. The last 4 Stanley Cup champions haven't exactly had a clear cut #1 to start the season.

3. Thomas can be signed to a bonus-laden contract.

@Captain

Oh Captain my Captain

1) The controvery did not produce an elite level tandem. These guys had their skills prior to becoming a tandem. Some may argue Lu regressed. What the tandem did was create a HUGE distraction for the team. HUGE!

2) That is a correlation. Nothing more.

3) If I am not mistaken, the bonuses are to be included and count against the cap.

4) You have got to be THE most ignorant poster I have ever seen.

AND THAT'S the bottom line cuz I said so! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_g20yHuXrw

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#19 Peachy
September 11 2013, 09:59AM
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Pure speculation, but I have a hard time believing that NM00 actually thinks TT is a good fit for Vancouver. I think he's attempting to mock Cam and posters for the Grabovski article. Unfortunately the Grabo bit wasn't completely ludicrous. TT to Vancouver is.

(And I apologize for my earlier factual transgression - TT wouldn't have been drafted in today's 7 round draft. Unfortunately the snide tone of my comment forced me to fudge a bit to fit the narrative.)

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#20 Peachy
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Lemming wrote:

As long as he's contractually obligated to pump Lu's tires.

Seriously, I think he just got new ones on his truck, they probably need pumping.

And Lemming wins the thread...

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#21 NM00
September 11 2013, 10:32AM
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Lemming wrote:

As long as he's contractually obligated to pump Lu's tires.

Seriously, I think he just got new ones on his truck, they probably need pumping.

Exactly!

Lou could use some tire pumping it seems.

If offering the captaincy is what it takes to land Thomas, the Canucks could always dangle that carrot as well.

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#22 NM00
September 11 2013, 10:49AM
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@JCDavies

I'm only being half sarcastic. I think.

I doubt Thomas wants to come to Vancouver and battle for #1 so, yes, this is fantasy and wish fulfillment...

But unlike Roy, Grabo, Clarkson, Horton, Gordon & Cullen, Thomas might actually be affordable considering the Canucks cap situation.

Thomas wouldn't be the first free agent to accept the best contract offer and I'm not sure what his market is at the moment.

How many teams are actually willing to guarantee Thomas money at this point?

If, for example, it took a $1.5 million committment to land him, heck yes I'd want to bring the Tim Thomas experience to Vancouver.

It's an Olympic year and the Canucks could use some Luongo insurance should he post a sub .900 save percentage like he did after the 2010 Olympics.

And some Luongo meltdown insurance wouldn't hurt either now that Cory is gone.

It's already a circus in Van City. Adding one more clown to the mix won't change that.

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#23 NM00
September 11 2013, 10:54AM
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@Peachy

Grabo was largely ridiculous because the Canucks didn't have the cap space for him.

Along with Roy, Cullen, Gordon, Clarkson & Horton.

The Canucks might have the money for Thomas...

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#24 Ted
September 11 2013, 01:52PM
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Did you eat paint chips when you were younger?

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#25 NM00
September 11 2013, 02:08PM
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@Ted

It's going to be a long season and, probably, a short playoff.

Relax...

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#26 Unknown Comic
September 11 2013, 02:20PM
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Tim Thomas gave up 4 or more goals in 4 games against Tampa in the 2011 east final.

Luongo have up 4 or more goals in 4 games in the 2011 finals.

The only difference is Boston scored 6 in one of those 4 games.

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#27 NM00
September 11 2013, 02:30PM
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@Unknown Comic

The difference was 26 points of save percentage in the 2010-2011 playoffs.

But I don't want Thomas based on one playoff run.

He's been an elite goalie for a long time and someone may very well get a huge bargain.

Might as well be Vancouver as opposed to Edmonton, for example.

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#28 Peachy
September 11 2013, 03:15PM
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NM00 wrote:

The difference was 26 points of save percentage in the 2010-2011 playoffs.

But I don't want Thomas based on one playoff run.

He's been an elite goalie for a long time and someone may very well get a huge bargain.

Might as well be Vancouver as opposed to Edmonton, for example.

It's almost as if the Canucks don't already have a starting goaltender under contract, one who is consistently an above-average to elite starter in the NHL...

And almost as if TT's performance isn't expected to tail off significantly as he hits the ripe old age of 40 this season, or that the fact that he hasn't played hockey in 17 months doesn't matter...

(If Vancouver can barely afford him, Edmonton is a very unlikely landing pad, given their cap situation, so I'm not sure where your worry in that regard comes from.)

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#29 NM00
September 11 2013, 03:35PM
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"It's almost as if the Canucks don't already have a starting goaltender under contract"

That didn't stop Schneider from battling for the #1 job, did it?

"And almost as if TT's performance isn't expected to tail off significantly as he hits the ripe old age of 40 this season, or that the fact that he hasn't played hockey in 17 months doesn't matter"

What exactly has Lou done in the last 17 months to make you think he hasn't tailed off?

"If Vancouver can barely afford him, Edmonton is a very unlikely landing pad, given their cap situation, so I'm not sure where your worry in that regard comes from."

Is Thomas a lock to even get a guaranteed contract?

Unlike Grabo and friends, cap space might not preclude a Thomas signing...

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#30 Peachy
September 11 2013, 03:53PM
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NM00 wrote:

"It's almost as if the Canucks don't already have a starting goaltender under contract"

That didn't stop Schneider from battling for the #1 job, did it?

"And almost as if TT's performance isn't expected to tail off significantly as he hits the ripe old age of 40 this season, or that the fact that he hasn't played hockey in 17 months doesn't matter"

What exactly has Lou done in the last 17 months to make you think he hasn't tailed off?

"If Vancouver can barely afford him, Edmonton is a very unlikely landing pad, given their cap situation, so I'm not sure where your worry in that regard comes from."

Is Thomas a lock to even get a guaranteed contract?

Unlike Grabo and friends, cap space might not preclude a Thomas signing...

*sigh*

I'm not sure why I bother...

Schneider was an asset that fell into the Canucks' laps. The Canucks utilized that asset. Signing TT is the opportunity cost of getting strong 3C at the deadline, among other potential opportunity costs. No reasonable person would compare the two situations.

(No, I'm not suggesting that getting a 3C at the deadline is a good idea. I'm only saying that TT comes with an opportunity cost that the Canucks shouldn't incur given the marginal gain over a starter of Luongo's caliber.)

Lou's season last year was his worst in a long time. Coincidentally, it was also a short season. The smart money comes in on Lou regressing towards his career mean. The same can't be said for TT.

Who knows what TT will get? He's a loose cannon, a locker room cancer, old, hasn't played in a long time and is (allegedly) demanding a starting opportunity.

The bottom line is that TT doesn't even fill an organizational need for the Canucks, never mind the questions of whether or not the Canucks want him or whether or not he's willing to sign with the Canucks.

It's a completely ludicrous proposition.

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#31 NM00
September 11 2013, 04:00PM
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Opportunity cost only comes into play if Thomas is asking (and receives) the moon.

For all we know, he only gets a PTO.

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#32 Lemming
September 11 2013, 10:19PM
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Inviting TT in for a PTO would damage all that has been done by management to try to mend the team's relationship with Roberto.

Bringing in not only a veteran, but the guy who beat the team (he was, in fairness, ludicrously good when the Canucks and Bruins went at it) and Luongo in the finals would have a good chance of undoing all the effort Gillis and Aquillini have put in to get Luongo on board again.

I'm not saying that having a quality goaltender like TT is bad, especially if he came at a low price-point, but all it would do is re-ignite the controversy that, as you've stated many times, has gone on for far, far too long. The team, the fans, and most importantly Luongo, need a little bit more stability for the time being.

If Luongo has an abysmal year, bring in whoever you want next year. I think it will be warranted and even Luongo will understand why. But this year seems like too early.

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#33 NM00
September 12 2013, 10:41AM
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What exactly has management done to mend the relationship with Roberto?

Lou dances around the "do you want to be in Vancouver?" question whenever it comes up and there's little reason to believe that will change as the year goes on.

Allegedly, he was "mentally checked out" at the end of last year. Whatever that means.

Instead of worrying about the psyche of a player who would rather be elsewhere, why not have some insurance in case Luongo performs like a goalie who has mentally checked out?

Don't forget, in the last Olympic year his numbers tanked after winning the gold medal and he quipped about how he only plays when he feels like it.

I'm largely playing devil's advocate here.

I don't actually think the Canucks should offer Thomas the captaincy...

But the Canucks may very well need goaltending to bail them out as much now as they did in 2006-2007.

Except that Luongo is unlikely to soak up as many shots as he did in 2006-2007 and his career average save percentage won't have the same impact as it once did since save percentages have gone up the last few years.

While I think the Canucks will make the playoffs, that's largely premised on Luongo playing around his career average and soaking up over 75% of the shots against.

Of course, there's no guarantee that will happen...

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#34 Lemming
September 12 2013, 05:43PM
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I'm not necessarily saying that Luongo will play lights out, management has essentially decided to give him what he wanted, and after a few years of this, and going by his interviews, it looks like the only thing he wants right now is to play.

Not to speculate too much into his psyche, but I doubt he's entirely happy with how things turned out. But I think he really does want to play in the end, and on top of that he's shown in the past to be a real team guy, so I have no reason to really believe he'll be terrible this year.

Like I said, if it happens, I'm all for bringing in a vet to challenge him next year. But I think he needs to be given the benefit of the doubt this year.

I get the devil's advocate though, I play it all the time.

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