Breaking: Canucks Trade Schneider, Acquire 9th Overall Pick (Bo Horvat)

Thomas Drance
June 30 2013 02:05PM

The Canucks have acquired the 9th overall pick in the 2013 NHL draft in exchange, straight up, for goaltender Cory Schneider.

They then used that pick to reach and select London Knights forward Bo Horvat.

The Canucks had decided mid-week to deal Cory Schneider rather than Roberto Luongo, who had proven impossible to move over the past fourteen months. Patching up the club's relationship with Luongo will now take center stage, presumably, this summer.

Cory Schneider is a very safe bet to be an average NHL starter for the New Jersey Devils, and he's got a good shot at being a well above average NHL goalie with an outside shot of projecting as a true star. Cory Schneider will now take on the pressure of succeeding Martin Brodeur in New Jersey, and perhaps the Devils Hall of Famer can teach him a thing or two about handling the puck...

What a twist...

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Thomas Drance lives in Toronto, eats spicy food and writes about hockey. He is an NHL News Editor at theScore, the ex-managing editor of CanucksArmy.com and an opinionated blowhard to boot. You can follow him on twitter @thomasdrance.
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#1 Lemming
June 30 2013, 02:10PM
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Can't believe it, I thought Luongo would be moved for change before Schneider was moved.

I feel like he got too little in return though, I would've liked to see a good young player/prospect.

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#2 JCDavies
June 30 2013, 02:15PM
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Really disappointed with this return. Schneider = huge return = Horvat?

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#3 Jordan.
June 30 2013, 02:16PM
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I don't follow junior hockey at all but this seems like a small return for a goalie with the stats and reputation of Schneider. Congrats to the Devils, though. They've cornered the market on likeable goaltenders.

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#4 Ruprecht
June 30 2013, 02:17PM
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I was in the other room when I heard the tirade of expletives from my Wife. I knew. Shocked, but then I expected to be today. Could have got more...but hope this Horvat kid proves the inevitable critics wrong. Gillis, on the other hand, has a long way to go to mend fences with my Wife.

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#5 GarthButchers
June 30 2013, 02:18PM
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wow does this guy make our roster next season? wow just wow I was half expecting Gillis to go on and trade Luongo to the Flyers for the 11th...

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#6 Lemming
June 30 2013, 02:19PM
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Hey, seems like a small return now, but Horvat could go a long way to helping us forget.

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#7 Jordan.
June 30 2013, 02:19PM
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@Ruprecht

Ha, no kidding. My girlfriend threw a fit when CoHo was traded. I hope she looks at twitter before I tell her later tonight...

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#8 Chip
June 30 2013, 02:25PM
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Times like these I throw up my hands and hope Gillis knows what he's doing.

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#9 khlhfs
June 30 2013, 02:38PM
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This team is unraveling before our eyes.

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#10 allan nielsen
June 30 2013, 03:08PM
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Edmonton had offered 8 + second + another player for Schneider (TSN) and then he does the trade for 9. Goodbye Gillis!!!

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#11 Johnny Cancuk
June 30 2013, 03:08PM
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Gillis has set this team back about 5-8 years if you combine the Hodgson trade with the trade today.

Our organization spent the past 8 years developing Schnieder into a potential top 5 goalie in the league and the best Gillis got in return was a top 10 pick.

I dont expect Gillis to have a job past this year.

And wasn't the leafs offering a prospect and a pick for Luongo? Way to talk yourself down Gillis..... You are ruining this team that Burke built 8 YEARS AGO!!!!!!

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#12 Gordie
June 30 2013, 03:14PM
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Something had to give & did it ever. Before us Nuck fans go overboard on trading Cory consider all factors & Bo Horvat's ability. The CBA hurting the options GMMG had he has done what was best. The Cap issues were not MG's doing & he did get a viable trade done & can keep making more moves if he thinks it improves us for another cup run.

Welcome Bo & luv what u bring to the table

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#13 Rasmus
June 30 2013, 03:38PM
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People forget two simple words. Eddie Lack. Sure it would have been nice to get some immediate help with a Schneider trade, but our goaltending pool is by no means thin.

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#14 Ruprecht
June 30 2013, 04:17PM
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Jordan. wrote:

Ha, no kidding. My girlfriend threw a fit when CoHo was traded. I hope she looks at twitter before I tell her later tonight...

Yep, I'm pretty sure I heard some Hodgson in wedged in there among the stream of curses, along with how useless Gillis is as a part of the female anatomy. I think I'll have to avoid the subject of hockey here for a few days until she cools off. I learned a couple of new colourful phrases over the last hour and a bit, so personally it's not all a loss.

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#15 NM00
June 30 2013, 04:25PM
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Irrespective of the return on the Schneider trade, it has been terrible asset management to sit on Schneider for two years instead of trying to improve the team in front of Luongo.

The Canucks were at the top of the win curve the last year or two. This trade will only make it harder next season.

Even if this player "hits" his ceiling of a 2nd/3rd line centre, is that actually going to make a difference 2-4 years down the road?

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#16 JCDavies
June 30 2013, 04:47PM
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@NM00

In what world does a young goaltender with only 40 NHL games played get you a top-ten draft pick?

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#17 NM00
June 30 2013, 05:03PM
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JCDavies wrote:

In what world does a young goaltender with only 40 NHL games played get you a top-ten draft pick?

On what basis can you say with any certainty that Schneider's trade value is higher now than it was a year ago?

The Canucks were backed into a wall and everyone knew it. That does not bode well for maximizing a return.

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#18 NM00
June 30 2013, 05:05PM
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@JCDavies

I should add that trading Schneider earlier may have precluded the need for rental Roy. That was a complete waste of two assets and I am sure Dallas is quite happy right now.

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#19 JCDavies
June 30 2013, 05:16PM
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@NM00

I can't say either way, but I think Schneider is worth more than Gillis got for him and I think he was worth more than a top-ten pick last summer also. However, in 2011, when the Canucks were at the "top of the win curve", he wouldn't have fetched the Canucks a top-ten pick.

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#20 NM00
June 30 2013, 05:37PM
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Okay so then what would have been wrong with trading Schneider after the defeat to LA?

This last season the Canucks spent over $9 mil on two goalies and wasted 2 assets for rental Roy.

Clearly Gillis made a pretty big mistake somewhere in this 15+ month process and it has hurt the org depth chart tremendously as well as wasting 1-2 years of the Sedin/Lou window.

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#21 JCDavies
June 30 2013, 05:56PM
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No, trading Schneider at that time probably would've been the correct move but the window where Schneider was worth more than a top-ten pick was small: a period of about 16 months that included a lockout, a new CBA, and a declining salary cap. The idea that this was a persistent issue for a long period of time without extenuating circumstances isn't correct.

Also, Luongo didn't have to go on national TV and volunteer himself to be traded. Things might have turned out differently if he hadn't done that. Perhaps Gillis fires AV, keeps Luongo and begins to shop Schneider immediately.

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#22 NM00
June 30 2013, 06:37PM
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"Also, Luongo didn't have to go on national TV and volunteer himself to be traded."

What does that have to do with choosing Schneider over Lou?

If Schneider was traded today, how can we accept that he wasn't traded a year ago coming off a .930-something save percentage and even better numbers in 3 playoff games?

We obviously don't agree on the sequencing here. Read Botchford's twitter if you want to get even more upset about all this.

Also, something that I think is being downplayed is that fact that a 2nd round pick and KConn had to be used on a 3LC rental this past season because a goalie (i.e. Lou) wasn't traded.

That's part of the equation along with rebuffing the Oilers offer for Schneider.

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#23 Thomas
June 30 2013, 07:06PM
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@ allan Nielsen

Oilers didn't offer 8 (which is actually 7)+2nd rounder+ and prospect, that is what Gillis wanted from them. They said that was to rich and passed on it. And yes it matters that they are in our division. Imagine Oilers youth backed by a good goalie we would be hurting ourselves.

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#24 JCDavies
June 30 2013, 07:23PM
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"Read Botchford's twitter if you want to get even more upset about all this."

Already pretty frustrated.

"What does that have to do with choosing Schneider over Lou?"

I don't know how you don't see Luongo's role in all this; he put himself at the center of it by speaking to the media. By publicly volunteering to be traded, he made himself the guy who should be traded.

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#25 NM00
June 30 2013, 08:10PM
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JCDavies wrote:

"Read Botchford's twitter if you want to get even more upset about all this."

Already pretty frustrated.

"What does that have to do with choosing Schneider over Lou?"

I don't know how you don't see Luongo's role in all this; he put himself at the center of it by speaking to the media. By publicly volunteering to be traded, he made himself the guy who should be traded.

By all accounts Lou has handled this situation much better than expected.

"I don't know how you don't see Luongo's role in all this; he put himself at the center of it by speaking to the media."

You are putting far too much emphasis on a player answer directing questions from media members.

If he didn't, he'd be getting grilled for ducking the media.

Damned if you do and such.

Lou answering questions in the media has nothing to do with Gillis' ineptitude.

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#26 bad moves
June 30 2013, 11:13PM
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Canucks trade away more of their future, they don't have a past and they have no idea what the hell theyre doing. Gillis is one some mission to destroy an already crappy choke team. With a guy like Gillis running this team, you don;t need opponents, that's for sure! LOL

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#27 david razik
July 01 2013, 08:22AM
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@NM00

In what world is 98 games 40?

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#28 david razik
July 01 2013, 08:22AM
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NM00 wrote:

On what basis can you say with any certainty that Schneider's trade value is higher now than it was a year ago?

The Canucks were backed into a wall and everyone knew it. That does not bode well for maximizing a return.

In what world is 98 games 40?

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