Ebbett Does Dallas

Thomas Drance
April 18 2013 11:48PM


What does Cory Schneider have in common with laundry? Both get hung out to dry.
Photo by Ronald Martinez/Getty Images

The Canucks finished up their season long five game roadtrip in Dallas on Thursday night not with a whimper, but with a bang. Unfortunately it was a bang of the wrong sort, like a flashbang, as the Canucks got lit up for four goals in the third period - three of them in quick succession - by a pretty mediocre team in the Dallas Stars.

But you know what's white and blue and not nearly as bad as it looked on Thursday night? The Canucks. Actually, the team was probably the better club on the whole in this game, though it wasn't enough to prevent the game from getting away from them in dramatic fashion in the latter half of the contest...

Read past the jump for scoring chance data and analysis.

- Let's start with the scoring chance numbers, which admittedly don't tell the story of this game as well as they do on some nights. The Canucks were out-chanced by the Dallas stars by an aggregate tally of 18 to 16, a relatively narrow margin considering the lopsided 5-1 score. Weirder still is that the Canucks out-chanced the Stars at even-strength, recording fifteen scoring chances at five-on-five to just thirteen for the Stars. The Canucks also out-chanced the Stars 12 to 9 with the score tied. In other words, if the Canucks were to play the way they did on Thursday ten times, they'd probably win six of those games.

- So what went wrong? The answer here is obvious: lots of things.

- I'm not really going to leave it at that. Vancouver was afflicted on Thursday with careless turnovers (Keith Ballard channeling Bill Buckner on Dallas' third goal especially), boneheaded defensive coverage (Barker on the Eakins game winner) and a third-line that was completely crushed by the Stars. Also, Kari Lehtonen outplayed Cory Schneider but that's a secondary reason for why Thursday's game went sideways so quickly for Vancouver's club...

- But let's dwell on Cory Schneider's performance before we move on. In five games on the team's now concluded roadtrip, Cory Schneider was blown up twice in three starts (against Colorado and Dallas). Then again, he was masterful in his other start against the St. Louis Blues on Tuesday. Schneider has been on a ridiculous run over the past month and a bit, so it was inevitable that he'd run into a couple of tough outings eventually. You can't deny regression forever, and for the most part it's come in the form of insane giveaways from his defenseman. Tough to blame Cory Schneider for, say, Landeskog's goal in Colorado, or pretty much any of the goals he surrendered tonight with the exception of the Eakins game winner.

- Still, Schneider wasn't particularly good in this one, and I'd wager he's unhappy with his own performance. On the one hand he stopped all 17 outside shots he faced, on the other, he stopped only 8 of 13 difficult shots (for a .615 save percentage on difficult shots). The fact is, that's not good enough to get it done on most nights.

- The Derek Roy, Ryan Kesler line had their best game as a group tonight. In fact, they were borderline dominant. The Sedin twins also generated scoring chances aplenty as even-strength. Unfortunately for the Canucks, the third line gave it all back. Here's the scoring chance differential by line tonight: the Sedin line was plus five, the Kesler/Roy line was also +5 and the Andrew Ebbett line was -6. Basically a good effort from the twins and Kesler was completely sabotaged by a third group that couldn't hang with, and I'm not kidding, a primary matchup against Cody Eakin, Ryan Garbutt and and Reilly Smith. This asinine experiment of playing Derek Roy with Ryan Kesler has to end...

- It was a similar story with Vancouver's defence pairings on Thursday. The Canucks legitimately controlled the game with Jason Garrison and Dan Hamhuis on the ice. With Cam Barker and Alex Edler on the ice, however, that was when Dallas did pretty much all of their meaningful damage. Andrew Alberts had ,a tough game on the penalty-kill but didn't fare too badly at even-strength and Ballard was mostly fine except for that one atrocious giveaway that led directly to a Dallas goal. Ballard is lucky Vancouver's blueline depth has been ravaged so thoroughly of late, if Tanev and Bieksa were healthy he might not see the ice for another month!

- The negative suckholism of Canucks fans, and some in the Vancouver media who seem to fall all over each other to be the most negative commentator, gets old in a hurry. Maybe it's because I deal with it a lot on Twitter, but following a game like this - one in which Vancouver' completely controls the contest at even-strength and still loses because sometimes the hockey gods are dicks - I find it particularly aggravating. Basically what happened was this: Dallas had the better special teams performance and got ridiculous goaltending for thirty minutes, then took advantage of a couple of unforced errors to build a massive lead. That's going to happen occassionally over the course of a season, even one shortened by a lockout, and it isn't a reason (or at least a good reason) to panic about this team's playoff hopes.

Take a step back from your first impression, look at the data, and it becomes clear that Vancouver's top-two lines and top-pairing were very good on Thursday night. That bodes well for the team going forward, just so long as they quickly abandon such foolish notions as "Cam Barker can play top-four minutes" or "Andrew Ebbett is a third line centre." Man...

Scoring Chance Data:

A chance is counted any time a team directs a shot cleanly on-net from within home-plate. Shots on goal and misses are counted, but blocked shots are not (unless the player who blocks the shot is “acting like a goaltender”). Generally speaking, we are more generous with the boundaries of home-plate if there is dangerous puck movement immediately preceding the scoring chance, or if the scoring chance is screened. If you want to get a visual handle on home-plate, check this image.

Scoring Chance Totals:

Scoring Chance Totals 1st 2nd 3rd Total
Vancouver (EV) 8 (8) 5 (5) 3 (2) 16 (15)
Dallas (EV) 4 (4) 7 (5) 7 (4) 18 (13)

Individual Scoring Chance Contributions:

Individual Chance Contributions Taken Created Total
Derek Roy 3 1 4
Jannik Hansen 2 1 3
Alex Edler 2 1 3
Zack Kassian 2 0 2
Mason Raymond 1 1 2
Henrik Sedin 1 1 2
Daniel Sedin 1 1 2
Andrew Ebbett 1 1 2
Keith Ballard 1 0 1
Cam Barker 1 0 1
Alex Burrows 1 0 1
Ryan Kesler 0 1 1
Andrew Alberts 0 1 0

Individual Chance Differential:

  EV F - A PP F - A SH F - A Total F - A
Dan Hamhuis 6 - 4 0 - 0 0 - 2 6 - 6
Keith Ballard 5 - 4 0 - 0 0 - 1 5 - 4
Jason Garrison 7 - 3 0 - 0 0 - 1 7 - 4
Zack Kassian 5 - 8 0 - 0 0 - 0 5 - 8
Steve Pinizzotto 0 - 1 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 1
Alex Burrows 6 - 2 0 - 0 0 - 0 6 - 2
Derek Roy 6 - 1 0 - 0 0 - 2 6 - 3
Ryan Kesler 4 - 1 0 - 0 1 - 0 5 - 1
Cam Barker 4 - 5 0 - 0 0 - 0 4 - 5
Mason Raymond 3 - 9 0 - 0 0 - 2 3 - 11
Daniel Sedin 7 - 2 0 - 0 0 - 0 7 - 2
Alex Edler 4 - 7 0 - 0 1 - 1 5 - 8
Andrew Ebbett 3 - 8 0 - 0 0 - 0 0 - 0
Dale Weise 0 - 2 0 - 0 0 - 2 0 - 4
Henrik Sedin 7 - 2 0 - 0 0 - 0 7 - 2
Jannik Hansen 4 - 1 1 - 2 0 - 0 5 - 3
Maxim Lapierre 0 - 2 0 - 0 0 - 2 0 - 4
Andrew Alberts 4 - 3 0 - 0 1 - 3 4 - 6

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Thomas Drance lives in Toronto, eats spicy food and writes about hockey. He is an NHL News Editor at theScore, the ex-managing editor of CanucksArmy.com and an opinionated blowhard to boot. You can follow him on twitter @thomasdrance.
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#1 Enough Av
April 19 2013, 12:00AM
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AV is drinking too much coconut juice. A 2nd straight night of Ebbett at 3C? Ya, AV just cost them 3 pts this roadtrip.

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#2 Lemming
April 19 2013, 01:08AM
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Many times, I agree with the majority of what is said within the game recaps here. But from what I watched of the game, I didn't see a very strong Canucks team at all. I didn't see a ridiculously weak one, but what I saw was Schneider turning away the majority of the good scoring chances through the 2nd period (admittedly I didn't watch the first).

The team really misses Higgins and, yes, Booth. Even if he's not scoring, I still think he's an incredibly valuable player just from his ability to so simply move the puck up the ice. The number of times the Canucks get trapped in their own zone is astounding, and from what I see it's not just the 3rd line.

I'm really not venting because of the loss, I don't really care, and frankly kind of expected it. The Canucks might be putting up great possession numbers, but I struggle to see it happening way too often on the ice.

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#3 Rusty
April 19 2013, 04:34AM
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Great to see that MayRay is rounding into his usual playoff form...

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#4 Nick
April 19 2013, 07:41AM
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I normally enjoy your posts, but I don't think we were watching the same game as the Canucks were not the better team out there and it had nothing to do with the Hockey gods you speak of. Canucks were sloppy, had little intensity and Dallas clearly wanted it more. I don't care what the numbers say, it was a poor performance last night.

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#5 Rob
April 19 2013, 08:41AM
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Talk about Rose-Coloured Homer glasses. The Canucks showed no compete, no determination, and no heart. Playing in a weak division for so long has ruined this teams' work ethic, they figure they don't have to work hard to win games anymore. One thing is certain, they won't be able to hide behind Schnieder and Luongo once the playoffs start. They better wake up and start playing a full 60 minutes or its going to be another short playoff run.

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#6 Nick
April 19 2013, 09:20AM
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Rob wrote:

Talk about Rose-Coloured Homer glasses. The Canucks showed no compete, no determination, and no heart. Playing in a weak division for so long has ruined this teams' work ethic, they figure they don't have to work hard to win games anymore. One thing is certain, they won't be able to hide behind Schnieder and Luongo once the playoffs start. They better wake up and start playing a full 60 minutes or its going to be another short playoff run.

You nailed it!

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#7 EVT
April 19 2013, 10:53AM
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The author of this piece and all the commenters so far watched the game last night.

Only the author took notes, recorded individual events, and then tallied them up at the end to draw meaningful conclusions.

Who should I listen to?

Terms like "hustle", "compete", "drive", "heart", "determination", "intensity", etc. are essentially MEANINGLESS because they are not measured, and different people see them in different ways.

That's not what advanced statistics are about. That's not what this site is about.

If you want feel good articles or articles that are in line with your casual observations, stick to The Province (sans Cam Charron's articles). And speaking of The Province, I'm not even going to glance at their sports pages today, as I'm sure old man Gallagher and his hatchet crew are having a field day given last night's supposed "blowout".

Back to the article, great summary as usual. Ebbet is awful and must be fired into this sun (or at least away from a rink).

Lastly, hat tip for the creative article title, which I assume is a nod to a great American classic movie.

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#9 Senrik Hedin
April 19 2013, 12:02PM
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"Terms like "hustle", "compete", "drive", "heart", "determination", "intensity", etc. are essentially MEANINGLESS because they are not measured, and different people see them in different ways."

True that. And Mark Cuban agrees haha

http://youtu.be/hv2jqFd2-qI

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#10 Nick
April 19 2013, 12:22PM
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EVT wrote:

The author of this piece and all the commenters so far watched the game last night.

Only the author took notes, recorded individual events, and then tallied them up at the end to draw meaningful conclusions.

Who should I listen to?

Terms like "hustle", "compete", "drive", "heart", "determination", "intensity", etc. are essentially MEANINGLESS because they are not measured, and different people see them in different ways.

That's not what advanced statistics are about. That's not what this site is about.

If you want feel good articles or articles that are in line with your casual observations, stick to The Province (sans Cam Charron's articles). And speaking of The Province, I'm not even going to glance at their sports pages today, as I'm sure old man Gallagher and his hatchet crew are having a field day given last night's supposed "blowout".

Back to the article, great summary as usual. Ebbet is awful and must be fired into this sun (or at least away from a rink).

Lastly, hat tip for the creative article title, which I assume is a nod to a great American classic movie.

I don't want a feel good article, I want accuracy. What qualifies a scoring chance? A weak pathetic "drive" to the net? A slow moving shot on goal? I'm not against stats, but they don't accurately reflect what you guys are preaching.

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#11 Unknown Comic
April 19 2013, 12:35PM
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Nick wrote:

I don't want a feel good article, I want accuracy. What qualifies a scoring chance? A weak pathetic "drive" to the net? A slow moving shot on goal? I'm not against stats, but they don't accurately reflect what you guys are preaching.

Nick - please do your research. You're coming across as quite ignorant. A scoring chance has been clearly defined around here numerous times and is accepted and proven to be accurate.

EVT hit the nail on the head. This site is for fans looking for an alternative to the regurgitated MSM reporting and discussion away from the reactionary, uneducated fan.

If you don't appreciate it, please lose the admitted ignorance and then come back.

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#12 Nick
April 19 2013, 12:48PM
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Unknown Comic wrote:

Nick - please do your research. You're coming across as quite ignorant. A scoring chance has been clearly defined around here numerous times and is accepted and proven to be accurate.

EVT hit the nail on the head. This site is for fans looking for an alternative to the regurgitated MSM reporting and discussion away from the reactionary, uneducated fan.

If you don't appreciate it, please lose the admitted ignorance and then come back.

Educate Mr. Unknown Comic. What is the definition of a scoring chance? Or point me in the direction where I can read it.

As I said in my original comment. I normally enjoy the articles (and am now adding) and see how some of the conclusions are arrived at... last night was way off IMO, and I'm entitled to that.

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#14 Nick
April 19 2013, 01:39PM
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Thomas Drance wrote:

Nick if you look under the header "scoring chance data" I include definitions of what a chance is in every one or these gamer posts.

Thanks, got it. I've clearly overlooked that section every time I read your articles (I'm always reading from my mobile and tend to skip over the chart sections).

Anyways, my apologies for creating a "scene" on your post, I just don't agree that the Canucks were the better team last night, that's all. I'll take your word for it though ;)

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#16 Lemming
April 19 2013, 07:46PM
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Look, all I'm saying is that the ones recording the events are hardly infallible, and if advanced statistics can teach us anything, it's that even people who are great at something (like this blog and recording games) might get it wrong sometimes, because we're all humans.

All some of us are saying is that this assessment doesn't necessarily agree with what we thought we saw on the ice the other night. I think by far, the post-game reviews here are bang on, and I love reading them every time. This site has given me an absolutely appreciate for advanced stats and I'm not even saying that the game review is wrong.

All I'm saying is that I didn't see what Drance saw. I don't see why that has to become some big dramatic argument about how we all "don't appreciate advanced stats" and how all us need to "go read feel good articles written by idiots in The Province" or whatever.

Great game recap, Drance, as always. I still disagree that the Canucks were the better team though.

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