Canucks Weekly Prospect Report- December 12th, 2013

Josh W
December 12 2013 11:37AM

Welcome to this week's edition of the Canucks Weekly Prospect Report.  As always I have all of your latest in Canucks' prospect statistics and news. This time around, though, I take a deeper look at some of the #fancystats in the AHL, Utica Players Estimated TOI, Bo Horvat's WOWY, and the NHLE Points of all of the prospects.

You can follow me at @nuckprospects on Twitter for the latest in prospect news and feel free to send me any feedback on anything prospect related you wish me to cover.

Without further ado..

Utica

Games

Friday's game

The Comets opened this week against the Bridgeport Sound Tigers, the AHL affiliate of the New York Islanders. 

Some notes on the Tigers:

  • They are currently ranked 28th in Possession (46.57%) and with a 97.4% PDO the Sound Tigers are ranked 13th in the East. 
  • They have on their roster top prospect Ryan Strome who has 33 points so far in 23 AHL games (and later in the week was called up to the Islanders). The closest the Comets have to that in terms of production is Pelletier with 18 points in 18 games. 
  • The rest of the Sound Tigers is a mismatch of undrafted players.. they are essentially the equivalent to the AHL's Island of Misfit Toys.

The first period was fairly uneventful; even in possession, and no penalties were called. The Sound Tigers did get on the board twice to make it 2-0, once off of a bad turnover by Sauve at the end of a long shift. The second goal came from a developing 3 on 2. Nearing the end of the 2nd the score was 3-2 for the Sound Tigers but a goal with 30 seconds in the period killed any remaining momentum for the Comets.

The final score was 5-3 for Bridgeport with Utica goals scored by Mullen, Ferriero and Weber.  Assists came from DeFazio, Ferrerio (2), O'Reilly, Weber, and Grenier.  Shots were 32-31 in favour of Bridgeport, with Ferriero leading the Comets with 6 SOG. Eriksson was in net and made 27 saves on 32 shots.  Bridgeport did not get a powerplay opportunity while the Comets scored 2 (of 3) times with the man advantage.  Ferriero ended up with the 2nd star of the game.

Saturday's Game

On Saturday the Comets headed to Glen's Falls, NY to play the Phantoms.  The Phantoms heading into the game were 14th in possession (50.42%) and with a 99.4% PDO, they are ranked 10th in the conference.  The Phantoms are the AHL affiliate of the Philadelphia Phlyers, by the way.

The first period was quiet again; no penalties, low shot totals, and a slight edge to Utica in Possession. Joe Cannata got the call in this one. After the first period the ice shifted and it was all Phantoms.  Cannata did a good job of preventing the score from being higher than it could have been.

The final score was 3-1 for the Phantoms with the Phantoms leading in SOG 29-19.  Jensen led the team in SOG with 5, but still doesn't get any points to show his efforts.  The lone goal came from Archibald with no assists. Cannata made 26 of 29 saves while the powerplay went 0 for 2 and the #POWERKILL went 1 for 3.  

Players Performance

Utica Player statistics so far are:

# Player Pos Age GP G A PTS PPG SOG Sh/G +/- PIM SH%
23 Pascal Pelletier C 30 18 5 13 18 1.00 32 1.78 2 18 15.6
78 Benn Ferriero R 26 22 9 7 16 0.73 68 3.09 -11 8 13.2
28 Alexandre Grenier R 21 22 5 8 13 0.59 44 2.00 2 23 11.4
9 Zach Hamill C 24 18 3 6 9 0.50 22 1.22 -4 6 13.6
24 Brandon DeFazio F 24 22 2 6 8 0.36 37 1.68 1 43 5.4
10 Colin Stuart L 31 18 5 2 7 0.39 56 3.11 -4 18 8.9
14 Patrick Mullen D 27 17 4 3 7 0.41 28 1.65 -4 7 14.3
7 Henrik Tommernes D 23 21 3 4 7 0.33 32 1.52 -8 0 9.4
6 Yannick Weber D 25 7 2 5 7 1.00 15 2.14 -5 0 13.3
19 Kellan Lain C 24 22 2 4 6 0.27 24 1.09 -4 50 8.3
25 Darren Archibald L 23 14 3 2 5 0.36 31 2.21 -3 27 9.7
26 Frank Corrado D 20 22 2 3 5 0.23 32 1.45 -2 14 6.3
16 Cal O'Reilly C 27 8 1 4 5 0.63 13 1.63 0 0 7.7
4 Yann Sauve D 23 18 0 5 5 0.28 25 1.39 -10 23 0
40 Peter Andersson D 22 16 1 3 4 0.25 9 0.56 0 4 11.1
17 Nicklas Jensen C 20 16 0 2 2 0.13 37 2.31 -3 6 0
3 Alex Biega D 25 20 0 2 2 0.10 18 0.90 -5 21 0
27 Alex Mallet C 21 16 1 0 1 0.06 10 0.63 -5 7 10
12 David Marshall R 28 19 0 1 1 0.05 13 0.68 -6 9 0
43 Stefan Chaput C 25 2 0 0 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0 0
8 Alex Friesen F 22 3 0 0 0 0.00 0 0.00 0 0 0
22 Brett Lyon F 22 5 0 0 0 0.00 1 0.20 0 18 0
29 Kent Huskins D 34 12 0 0 0 0.00 16 1.33 0 7 0

Goalies so far:

# Goalies GP Mins W L SL SO GA GAA SVS SV%
30 Joacim Eriksson 16 901:55:00 4 10 1 1 47 3.13 400 0.895
35 Joe Cannata 8 416:51:00 2 5 0 0 23 3.31 185 0.889

Transactions:

  • With the injury to Edler, Weber has been recalled by Vancouver.  Weber had been playing top minutes in Utica earning over 20 minutes a night and had 7 points in 7 games (2G, 5A).
  • Canucks reassigned Polasek to Utica from the KWings.  I would be surprised if he gets much ice time, since he hasn't been too impressive in the ECHL this year. So far in 14 games he has 2 points and a 1.5 SOG/G average.

Other:

Currently the Comets are in 15th place with 14 points (6-14-1-1). They have been out-scored 48 to 73 (-25), and have been outshot 4598 to 656 (-58).  They are controlling 48.30% (acknowledging score effects) of the shots with an on ice shooting percentage of 8.1% and a save percentage of 89.0%.  A simple version of PDO puts them at 97.1% which continues to get worse as the goaltending isn't making as many saves as they should be. Their PP is currently at 18.99% (12th place), which has improved this week, and their PK is 74.42% (29th place) which has gotten worse.  Puck possession rankings put them at 21st which is not as bad as they have been playing, but their low PDO and poor special teams continues to be a hindrance.

On Friday Tommernes was hurt and he left the game mid-way through. He did not play on Saturday which is a bit worrying.  With the recall of Weber the Comets are down to seven defencemen on their roster: Andersson, Mullen, Biega, Corrado, Huskins and Sauve. The seventh is Negrin, a player the Canucks brought in in the off season who has not yet played a game.  Another option would be for the Comets to call up a player from the ECHL such as Polasek. (Note: After this article was written, the Canucks re-assigned Polasek from the K-Wings to Utica).

The "Jensen Goal-Watch" is still ongoing.  Jensen so far has not scored a goal in 16 games and only has 2 assists.  Initially it was not too worrying as he was maintaining a high SOG/G, but that has been declining as of late. He has had success in the AHL in the past, 4 goals in 6 games two years ago, so I wouldn't give up on him yet, especially with a sample of only 16 games.

Player Pos Goals GP Goals/Game Min/gm
Pelletier   40 18 2.22 24.24
Weber   15 7 2.14 23.38
Stuart   37 18 2.06 22.42
O'Reilly   16 8 2.00 21.82
Ferriero   44 22 2.00 21.82
Corrado D 42 22 1.91 20.83
Sauve D 34 18 1.89 20.61
Huskins D 22 12 1.83 20.00
Biega D 33 20 1.65 18.00
Archibald   22 14 1.57 17.14
Grenier   32 22 1.45 15.87
Hamill   26 18 1.44 15.76
Mullen D 24 17 1.41 15.40
Tommernes D 29 21 1.38 15.06
Andersson D 22 16 1.38 15.00
DeFazio   23 22 1.05 11.40
Lain   21 22 0.95 10.41
Jensen   14 16 0.88 9.55
Mallet   6 16 0.38 4.09
Marshall D 7 19 0.37 4.02

As I am looking into the usage and context of the players the first step is to look at their estimated time on ice (which the AHL does not track). To do this I calculated the total number of goals that are scored in Utica games to figure out the team's minutes / a goal, i.e. how many minutes it takes to score, between goals, in a single game. Since there is an average of 5.5 goals a game, this leads to 60 min / 5.5 goals = 10.9 min / goal.  Next, for for each player, we know the number of on-ice goals they were on for and the number of games they played in. This gives us a players on-ice goals / game. We can multiply this by the team rate to estimate the number of minutes each players plays a game.  This method has been explored by others before with a fair degree of success.

We can see which Comets are getting the most ice time, generally speaking, but there are still obviously some issues with this method as some players have a small sample size of on ice activity. Lain and Jensen are ones that stick out the most; they are not truly getting bottom minutes, but goals are just not being scored, for or against, when they are on the ice.

Back to the scope of the entire league, for comparison here is a list of #fancystats for the entire AHL up to last night.  You can get a better idea of where Utica is truly sitting. Possession Close uses the shots only from the first two periods to try and eliminate score effects from the possession estimate.

The next week will be busy with four games. The B-Sens will be heading to Utica tomorrow night. Saturday night in Wilkes-Barre the Comets will play the Penguins' squad and then the Comets then head back to Utica for a Sunday afternoon game vs.the Lake Erie Monsters.  Finally, next Wednesday, the Comets will be playing the Heat for the third time this season, this time at home.

OHL

Gaunce continues his strong play in Erie where he is mainly on the second line with Conner Brown. He does see some special teams time but for Erie prime time is usually given to McDavid. Since his trade, Gaunce is "determined to win" with the Otters and he continues to settle in with Erie.

After near two weeks hiatus with an injury Cassels is back and playing for Oshawa.  In his first game back he came out strong, making up for missed time by earning 4 points.  He is going to make the US wish they had selected him for their World Junior Championship (WJC) team.

When the Canucks drafted Horvat this past summer there were some concerns that his play was driven by Max Domi.  With the WJC selection camp out last week I thought it was interesting that Horvat was invited and Domi was not.  So I looked at all goals for London that happened this year to see what the Goal-For % for Horvat and Domi were, together and apart.  Obviously the "devil is in the usage" (as Thomas Drance put it) so I am working on calculating QualComps for the CHL and the AHL and maybe then we can understand Horvat's usage better.

Thomas Drance wrote an article on Horvat on Canucks.com this past week.

In the OHL East, Oshawa is first with 50 points, Kingston is 3rd with 35 points, North Bay is 5th with 33 points and Belleville is 10th with 18 points.  In the West, Erie is first with 55 points and London is 3rd with 48 points. In the BMO CHL standings Erie is ranked first overall, Oshawa is 8th and London is 9th. 

The stats of the players in the last week are as follows:

Name Position GP G A P PPG +/- PIM
Bo Horvat C 3 4 3 7 2.33 2 2
Brendan Gaunce C 4 3 1 4 1.00 7 2
Cole Cassels C 3 0 7 7 2.33 7 2
Jordan Subban D 2 0 0 0 0.00 -4 0
Evan McEneny D 2 1 0 1 0.50 -3 4
Miles Liberati D 4 1 0 1 0.25 0 4

And so far this year the stats of these players are:

Name Position Team GP G A P PPG +/- PIM
Bo Horvat C London 28 16 28 44 1.57 18 22
Brendan Gaunce C Erie 7 4 3 7 1.00 10 6
    Belleville 22 10 16 26 1.18 -5 27
Cole Cassels C Oshawa 27 12 23 35 1.30 9 45
Jordan Subban D Belleville 30 5 14 19 0.63 -4 28
Evan McEneny D Kingston 7 1 1 2 0.29 2 4
    Kitchener 15 2 5 7 0.47 -11 23
Miles Liberati D North Bay 8 1 0 1 0.13 1 6
    London 22 1 3 4 0.18 5 18

WHL

Cederholm engaged in another fight, albeit a short one, this week, defending a teammate after a hit. 

Shinkaruk has not played this week, it appears he is resting his hip/shoulder for the WJC at the end of the month.  This is good as it has clearly been affecting his production and pushing through it has seemed stupid.

Shinkaruk does have haters already, such as this dedicated twitter account just to him.

Medicine Hat is ranked fourth in the East with 41 points while Portland is 2nd in the West with 48 points.  Portland is 4th in the BMO CHL rankings this week.

Name Position GP G A P PPG +/- PIM
Hunter Shinkaruk L 0 0 0 0 0.00 0 0
Anton Cederholm D 3 0 0 0 0.00 2 7

And so far this season the players stats in the WHL are:

Name Position Team GP G A P PPG +/- PIM
Hunter Shinkaruk L Medicine Hat 18 5 11 16 0.89 -2 29
Anton Cederholm D Portland 31 1 7 8 0.26 14 42

NCAA

Ben Hutton continues his productive play, scoring another goal and earning three shots on goal.  Maine plays twice this week against American International on Friday and Saturday.  LaBate rivals Hutton in production earning three assists this week, in two games, as well as 9 SOG.  Both players have over 3 SOG average on the season.  LaBate and Wisconsin played Penn State where Williamson got to play in his sixth game of the year, earning an assist.  Beattie played two games for a less productive 2 assists and 5 SOG.  Yale and Harvard played this weekend which ended up in a 2-2 tie.  McNally earned 2 assists and 5 SOG.

Statistics of NCAA players:

Name Position School GP G A P PPG +/- S S/G PIM
Ben Hutton D uMaine 14 7 5 12 0.86 3 44 3.14 2
Joseph LaBate F uWisconsin 12 5 6 11 0.92 -2 37 3.08 2
Mike Williamson D Penn State 6 1 2 3 0.50 1 8 1.33 11
Matthew Beattie F Yale 11 2 2 4 0.36 2 17 1.55 0
Patrick McNally D Harvard 6 1 4 5 0.83 -1 17 2.83 2

ECHL/CHL

Corbeil acted as a backup for the two game the Nailers played this week.  He has only played in one game for them.  Wheeling plays three times this week, tonight, Saturday and Sunday. 

While Steven Anthony has been impressive, in his first eight games back, he is continuing a high production pace that could get him called up to Utica this year. 

The K-Wings played four games this week.  Pacan had a very impressive week scoring a number of goals, notching a number of assists and has stepped up his production from the previous 13 games.  It could just be a small sample size.  Blomstrand had a quieter week, started off the week with a goal but was silent after that.  Polasek was completely shutdown, if he wasn't on the box score I wouldn't have known he had played this week at all.  The K-Wings play three games this week on Friday, Saturday and Tuesday.

Gwinett will play two games this week on Friday and Sunday.

I have been trying to track down Wes Myron as he basically disappeared.  He was released from the Comets training camp at the beginning of the year and no news has been heard since.  Canucks.com has him listed as injured and playing for the K-Wings but I have not seen him on the IR or the ECHL Transactions

Statistics of players in the ECHL so far are:

ECHL Position Team GP G A P PPG +/- SOG S/G PIM
Blain D K-Wings 11 1 4 5 0.45 4 21 1.91 32
Pacan RW K-Wings 17 3 8 11 0.65 10 28 1.65 4
Polasek D K-Wings 14 1 1 2 0.14 3 21 1.50 14
Blomstrand LW K-Wings 17 6 2 8 0.47 0 36 2.12 6
Anthony F CHL St Charles 8 2 4 6 0.75 -2 20 2.50 2
Guimond D Gwinnett 13 1 1 2 0.15 -8 34 2.62 8

Statistics of Corbeil on the year:

Goalies Team Position GP Min GA GAA W L OTL SV SV%
Mathieu Corbeil ECHL Wheeling G 1 60 0 0 1 0 0 39 1.00%
Mathieu Corbeil CHL St. Charles G 6 236 21 5.35 0 2 1 103 0.831

Europe

Anton Rodin continues his high output in the SHL which has made me wonder if the Canucks will try and bring him back next year.  Talking with @tsetse_fly, a local Swede who actively pays attention to the SHL, points out that Rodin's success is a large part of his high TOI (18:39, most on the team) while having a high QoT.  He is the third wheel on that line with a low shot total for one with that much TOI.  

Rodin had success in Sweden before, and then didn't translate that to the AHL.  He is having success again back in Sweden and it makes me wonder if he would even be able to have any luck in the NHL.

The other European Canuck prospect, Ronalds Kenins, has broken his jaw and will not be playing until January.

Name Position Team Age GP G A P PPG +/- PIM
Anton Rodin W SHL Brynas 22 26 9 16 25 0.96 0 22
Ronalds Kenins LW Swiss ZSC 22 25 5 11 16 0.64 9 12

Other:

Before we go and I leave you with some extra readings, here are the current NHL Expectancy points for these prospects.  These are basically how many points the prospects would have scored in the NHL based on their performance in their current leagues this year so far.  You can read about this more here and here.

Rank Name League GP Points Translation NHLE
1 Anton Rodin SHL 26 25 0.78 62
2 Bo Horvat OHL 28 44 0.3 39
3 Cole Cassels OHL 27 35 0.3 32
4 Brendan Gaunce OHL 29 33 0.3 28
5 Ronalds Kenins Swiss 25 16 0.43 23
6 Joseph LaBate NCAA 12 11 0.3 23
7 Hunter Shinkaruk WHL 18 16 0.3 22
8 Alexandre Grenier AHL 22 13 0.44 21
9 Ben Hutton NCAA 14 12 0.3 21
10 Patrick McNally NCAA 6 5 0.3 21
11 Jordan Subban OHL 30 19 0.3 16
12 Darren Archibald AHL 14 5 0.44 13
13 Mike Williamson NCAA 6 3 0.3 12
14 Henrik Tommernes AHL 21 7 0.44 12
15 Yann Sauve AHL 18 5 0.44 10
16 Kellan Lain AHL 22 6 0.44 10
17 Evan McEneny OHL 23 9 0.3 10
18 Peter Andersson AHL 16 4 0.44 9
19 Matthew Beattie NCAA 11 4 0.3 9
20 Frank Corrado AHL 22 5 0.44 8
21 Anton Cederholm WHL 31 8 0.3 6
22 Nicklas Jensen AHL 16 2 0.44 5
23 Miles Liberati OHL 30 5 0.3 4
24 Alex Mallet AHL 16 1 0.44 2
25 Alex Friesen AHL 3 0 0.44 0
26 Blain ECHL 11 5 N/A N/A
27 Polasek ECHL 14 2 N/A N/A
28 Blomstrand ECHL 17 8 N/A N/A
29 Anthony CHL 8 6 N/A N/A

It's been an extremely busy week for Canucks in the OHL, with plenty of activity everywhere else.  Hopefully soon I will have calculated the QualComp of our Comets and we can analyze their usage even further.  Make sure to follow me at @nuckprospects for all the latest in Canuck Prospect news.  Until next week!

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#1 JCDavies
December 12 2013, 12:31PM
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Wow, these get better every week.

Considering the dearth of quality data available from the junior leagues, what you are doing here is greatly appreciated.

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#2 Peachy
December 12 2013, 12:36PM
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Love these articles.

Jensen is truly disappointing. I agree that it's too early to give up on him, but it appears any illusions we had of him becoming a top six contributor were just that. Gaunce also not looking so good.

Regarding Rodin, does the SHL count secondary as well as primary assists? If only primary, it may suggest that he's a significant contributor to offense. Probably still unlikely that he ever contributes in the NHL though.

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#3 Matt
December 12 2013, 12:38PM
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When Burrows is healthy, the Canucks should call up Jensen so they can play on a line together. We can call it the "all shooting, no scoring" line.

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#4 NM00
December 12 2013, 01:20PM
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@Peachy

"I agree that it's too early to give up on him, but it appears any illusions we had of him becoming a top six contributor were just that."

Seems to be the motto of this management team...

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#5 PB
December 12 2013, 02:45PM
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@Peachy

That's a bit early to be writing him off. Jensen has looked good/better in the pro game than he has at times in the AHL. I would also say that he's had a pretty injury-plagued season.

What suggests to you that Gaunce is not looking so good? The 7 points in 7 games with the new team or the 33 in 29 overall? Or the review in this report that he's continuing his strong play?

A better prospect pool in many years; whether they pan out remains to be seen but they certainly have more promise than the Sauves and Whites of the past.

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#6 5minutesinthebox
December 12 2013, 02:50PM
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@Peachy

How does Gaunce appear to be a disappointment? 29gp 14g 19a 33pts +5 while playing in a shutdown role

Looks like he is doing just fine to me.

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#7 Rusty
December 12 2013, 03:53PM
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What is astonishing to me would be the dearth of Canuck prospects on the scoring list for Utica. Should the blame be placed in scouting or developing?

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#8 Nigel
December 12 2013, 05:02PM
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The comment on Guance is appropriate given he is now in his draft +2 year in the OHL. A point per game or just slightly better (last year and this) in the OHL in your post draft years is poor offensive production. What Horvat is doing this year is what a pro prospect with asperations to be a top 9 forward in the NHL should be doing in the OHL in post draft years. I accept that Guance may have some future in the Canucks bottom three/six a few years down the road, but that is hardly the outcome that you want from a 1st round pick. It's way way too early to completely write him off of course but all evidence from the past three years suggests that Brad Richardson is the reasonable "upside" scenario for Gaunce.

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#9 Lemming
December 12 2013, 05:29PM
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Matt wrote:

When Burrows is healthy, the Canucks should call up Jensen so they can play on a line together. We can call it the "all shooting, no scoring" line.

Can you imagine Henrik centering that line? They'd get like 20 shots a game, with nothing to show for it of course.

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#10 Peachy
December 12 2013, 05:29PM
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PB wrote:

That's a bit early to be writing him off. Jensen has looked good/better in the pro game than he has at times in the AHL. I would also say that he's had a pretty injury-plagued season.

What suggests to you that Gaunce is not looking so good? The 7 points in 7 games with the new team or the 33 in 29 overall? Or the review in this report that he's continuing his strong play?

A better prospect pool in many years; whether they pan out remains to be seen but they certainly have more promise than the Sauves and Whites of the past.

To clarify, I'm not writing either off. They're young and developing, so things could change.

But this year hasn't been the step forward that we'd hoped to see from them.

As noted above, a ppg pace in draft +2 isn't an indicator of a future top six forward.

I agree that the prospect pool has gotten better.

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#11 PB
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I'd agree that Jensen's trajectory has hit a rough patch. But it's still an injury-plagued season so far. As for Gaunce given that he was always (I thought) projected as a two-way forward I'm not sure that his move to a second-line f position on a new team (and continuing to score at a ppg pace) shows that he isn't doing well. I have a hard time with the absolutes associated with production in developmental leagues. Not every prospect (especially low first-rounders) is going to get first unit PP and first line ice time. And I have a hard time imagining, for example, that Rodin is a viable NHL-prospect given his difficulty adjusting to the AHL despite his scoring in the SEL.

At any rate, I agree that Jensen's development hasn't progressed well this year. And as someone else pointed out above it's not great that despite all the hype about owning our own AHL team this year that it's an abysmally bad one in which most of our top prospects aren't really playing major roles (well the goalies and Corrado I suppose). Not necessarily the best environment to develop talent but maybe that will come.

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#12 origamirock
December 12 2013, 05:55PM
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Rusty wrote:

What is astonishing to me would be the dearth of Canuck prospects on the scoring list for Utica. Should the blame be placed in scouting or developing?

While I won't defend the drafting in general, this is because the majority of the "good" draft picks from the last 5 years are either in the NHL (Hodgson, Schroeder - technically) or in minor leagues other than the AHL (OHL, WHL, NCAA, etc.)The draft picks that are in Utica were mostly from later rounds. There's only 8 vancouver draft picks in Utica in total:

D, Yann Sauve: 2008 R2 ,5 pts D, Peter Andersson: 2009 R5, 4 pts F, Alex Friesen: 2010 R6, 0 pts F, Nicklas Jensen: 2011 R1, 2 pts F, Alexandre Grenier: 2011 R3, 13 pts D, Frank Corrado: 2011 R5, 5 pts D, Henrik Tommernes: 2011 R7, 7 pts F, Alex Mallet: 2012 R2, 1 pts

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#13 origamirock
December 12 2013, 05:56PM
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Uhh....oops.

D, Yann Sauve: 2008 R2 ,5 pts

D, Peter Andersson: 2009 R5, 4 pts

F, Alex Friesen: 2010 R6, 0 pts

F, Nicklas Jensen: 2011 R1, 2 pts

F, Alexandre Grenier: 2011 R3, 13 pts

D, Frank Corrado: 2011 R5, 5 pts

D, Henrik Tommernes: 2011 R7, 7 pts

F, Alex Mallet: 2012 R2, 1 pts

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#14 GeezMoney
December 12 2013, 06:59PM
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Haha, the Shink. Gotta love Flames fans: bitter that their team stinks, they take to tweeting about prospects that were picked over their own. Shinkaruk is going to be a scorer at the next level -- so long as injuries don't slow him down.

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#15 5mintuesinthebox
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Nigel wrote:

The comment on Guance is appropriate given he is now in his draft +2 year in the OHL. A point per game or just slightly better (last year and this) in the OHL in your post draft years is poor offensive production. What Horvat is doing this year is what a pro prospect with asperations to be a top 9 forward in the NHL should be doing in the OHL in post draft years. I accept that Guance may have some future in the Canucks bottom three/six a few years down the road, but that is hardly the outcome that you want from a 1st round pick. It's way way too early to completely write him off of course but all evidence from the past three years suggests that Brad Richardson is the reasonable "upside" scenario for Gaunce.

Gaunce was the 26th pick in 2012. That is pretty much a 2nd rounder from 2 drafts ago. If he develops into a 3rd line checking C, thats a win. You have to go back to the 2008 draft to find a player drafted in the 20s that is making a significant contribution to their NHL club.

If he can improve his skating (something that has already significantly improved since his draft) he is drafted as a top 6 C.

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Gaunce had 2G 2A tonight against Niagara

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#17 Senrik Hedin
December 13 2013, 11:40AM
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If you look at Gaunce play, it looks like man playing against boys. I thought he would dominate this year (given he had ppg the last two years in the same league), but it is disappointing that he hasn't "progressed" so to speak. Also, his skating has only marginally improved even though that was a glaring weak spot in his draft year that he was planning to work on. If he can work on his game for a year or two in the AHL, maybe he will turn out to be a contributor as a bottom 6.

I don't know what's going on with Jensen. He didn't stand out at all in prospects camp or main camp this year for me. He's below Grenier and Archibald on the list of call-ups at this point. He needs to watch old videos of Hansen.

Excited for Horvat.

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#18 Bossram
December 13 2013, 04:31PM
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Great article. Love the weekly reports.

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