Oilers deal Ladislav Smid, sign Ilya Bryzgalov

Jonathan Willis
November 08 2013 05:08PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers have traded Ladislav Smid to the Calgary Flames. Reportedly, they have also signed goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov.

The Trade

On it's own, this deal is a clear win for the Calgary Flames.

The only legitimate NHL player in this trade is Ladislav Smid. He has his faults; in particular he isn't an especially good puck-mover and has always been at his best when paired with a defenceman who can take primary responsibility for that part of the game. With that said, he is a legitimate middle-pairing defensive defenceman and a welcome physical presence, a guy who can kill penalties and has played some tough minutes over the years.

Olivier Roy is a marginal NHL goaltending prospect at this point, a guy still struggling to prove he can play regularly at the AHL level. Laurent Brossoit, an ex-Edmonton Oil King, is in his first year as a professional but is a better prospect long-term. Neither of these guys really matter in the NHL picture in the short term.

Roman Horak adds centre depth. He has 82 games of NHL experience but has spent most of this season with Abbotsford; he'll help the Barons a lot at centre right now and provides the Oilers with a second plausible call-up at that position (along with Linus Omark.

In the balance: the Oilers cleared cap space, but their NHL roster just got poorer.

Bryzgalov

Ilya Bryzgalov is a pretty good goalie. We don't have contract details yet, but the best guess is that we're looking at a one-year deal somewhere in the $2.0 - $2.5 million per year range. This isn't a totally surprising move; Jason Gregor reported it might happen not that long ago on this site.

Over the last five seasons, Bryzgalov has posted a 0.923 save percentage at even-strength. That makes him a little better than Devan Dubnyk and puts him in the same range as guys like Jonathan Quick, Carey Price and Corey Crawrford over that span. The difference is that Bryzgalov also famously imploded after being signed to a amassive ocntract by Philadelphia.

This is a good addition, particularly if he's being brought in to compete with Devan Dubnyk for playing time. It's not enough to explain the Smid trade, unless the contract is horrific. 

That's where we are now. The Oilers are better in net at the moment, significantly worse on defence and if another move doesn't come this has been a very bad night for Craig MacTavish. Another move is probably coming, and it will need to be a good one to make up for what's already happened.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#201 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:23PM
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God bless Gordie Wayne and Gord Miller if this is for real!

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#202 Don W
November 08 2013, 07:32PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

Sorry:

From Gord Miller's real Twitter account: "There is a fake account out there, I am not reporting a Hemsky trade."

I don't think the oilers have their 2nd either since they used it to get Perron. Honestly, people need to step up their game on these fake rumours.

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#203 Johnnydapunk
November 08 2013, 07:34PM
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Slats wrote:

could we have not done this deal with Nick Schulz instead?

Nick Schulz is a UFA after this season so it wouldn't do a lot to free future cap space, well except not re-signing him.

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We get cap room for Bryz and room for prospects to show their stuff. We're overloaded with 2nd/3rd pairing dmen. I really liked #5, but something had to give. Lots of talk about Horc (roasted by Datsuyk yesterday) and Hemmer and the 'culture of losing'. Smid's been here since the cup run too. Hope it's not like what happened when we traded Matt Greene. Who knows, maybe Horak could help the PK now

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#205 Andrew
November 08 2013, 07:39PM
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Is it just me or are we seeing just how well some of the Oiler's prospects are being developed by Todd Nelson et al in OKC?

Arcobello, Pitlck and Fedun. All three do different things and bring something new to the table. They are all more effective than several regulars.

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#206 Greg the Hammer Valentine
November 08 2013, 08:15PM
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Harlie wrote:

And that's where we differ, I see LB as legit #1 starter within 3 years.

I liked Smid's game but he was a passenger like most on this team. Only has 2 plus seasons in his career, last one 11/12 season.

You like these numbers?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4802

As a legit starter at the NHL level? Within 3 years??? Come to think of it, maybe in this organization, he actually can.

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#207 DAVE
November 08 2013, 10:23PM
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Out with the czechs and slovaks, in with the ruskis, Mac T must have been hangin with Rob Ford to make this deal, or he and Lowe are taking direction from the Kremlin.

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#208 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:30PM
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Well, the only logical explanation for trading Smid for two late round prospects is to free up cap space. I think that much is agreed upon. I think it can also be agreed upon that that extra cap space isn't for a goalie who isn't currently playing in the league. Those type of signings should be relatively inexpensive. Hopefully Bryzgalov isn't going to cost two million plus but it is looking that way. Unfortunately MacT isn't in the greatest bargaining position to trade. I'm sure all of his previous inquiries around the league into the cost of a bonafide starting goalie resulted in a lot of unbearable propositions. "Sure, Hiller is available... for Nuge and Hemsky." So might as well take a chance on Bryzgalov, just hope they don't overpay. I hope that whatever deal MacT is working on doesn't fall through or the Smid deal looks bad. Stinky bad. Lunatics running the asylum bad. For a team not noted for its defensive depth to give up a starting NHL defenceman for no immediate help in return makes no sense whatsoever unless you completely give up which is highly unlikely or you have something very close to fruition. For an early Christmas present I wish for Shea Weber. Please Mr. MacClaus??

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#209 Grucha
November 08 2013, 10:33PM
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Good move to sign Bryz. Taking a chance on him is worth it considering all our current goaltenders were given an honest shot to prove themselves and none (except Bachman) played an even average game once.

Anyone remember Bobrovsky? he was just as bad if not worse than Bryz in Phili but then he gets traded to Columbus and puts up crazy numbers.

Either way, even if he sucks on par with Dubnyk and LaBarbara and we continue to tank the season, the post game-interviews will be more entertaining.

Welcome Bryz. Smid sad to see ya go.

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#210 GoofyGoon69
November 08 2013, 10:39PM
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With our goaltending situation, I can understand the Bryz signing but DUMPING SMID to a RIVAL TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!????????????????????????????????????????????????? That's BOLD Mac-T. Real bold

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#211 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:42PM
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@camdog

For sure. I think any conversation MacT has had with any team regarding a goalie has resulted in a ridiculous asking price just based on his position.

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#212 DAVE
November 08 2013, 10:44PM
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camdog wrote:

Bob Stauffer says those rumours are not true and are complete "BS".

The reality is that Mact has hancuffed the organization by not buying out Eager, signing Labarbera, Grebeshkov and Macintyre. That's 4 wasted roster spots on gut shots. On top of that we have Potter in the minors. The Oilers as it stands have 5 players signed to Nhl contracts on the Barons. I guess Potter will likely be recalled at some time, but that's just not good asset management.

You are right, up against the contract wall, and whole world know's it. Bad salary dump, with no bad contract's being dumped.

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#213 Jofa
November 08 2013, 10:49PM
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The only way this remotely resembles sense is if a larger deal or deals are in the works, but even still, this is a bad deal...

The Oil's depth just lost significant depth in a steady blue liner that the opposition hates to play against. Two things I'm at a loss about: if we needed to move a D-man, why Smid? If we were willing to trade Smid, was there no better return than than Calgary cast-offs and prospects that didn't involve the team's provincial rival?

A soft team that's already easy to play against just got softer and easier to play against. Oh ya, and we signed the goalie that the rest of the league has passed on for a bloated contract, based on accounts so far.

There has to be deals to come, right? I mean, it doesn't take a business degree for MacT to understand that he's just made a position of weakness even weaker... Either we've got a big deal coming, which still doesn't make these good deals or signings, or being an Oiler fan just got crappier today.

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#214 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:55PM
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Jofa wrote:

The only way this remotely resembles sense is if a larger deal or deals are in the works, but even still, this is a bad deal...

The Oil's depth just lost significant depth in a steady blue liner that the opposition hates to play against. Two things I'm at a loss about: if we needed to move a D-man, why Smid? If we were willing to trade Smid, was there no better return than than Calgary cast-offs and prospects that didn't involve the team's provincial rival?

A soft team that's already easy to play against just got softer and easier to play against. Oh ya, and we signed the goalie that the rest of the league has passed on for a bloated contract, based on accounts so far.

There has to be deals to come, right? I mean, it doesn't take a business degree for MacT to understand that he's just made a position of weakness even weaker... Either we've got a big deal coming, which still doesn't make these good deals or signings, or being an Oiler fan just got crappier today.

Well said. I really hope that the deal is significant and doesn't fall apart.

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#215 dougtheslug
November 08 2013, 11:16PM
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Jofa wrote:

The only way this remotely resembles sense is if a larger deal or deals are in the works, but even still, this is a bad deal...

The Oil's depth just lost significant depth in a steady blue liner that the opposition hates to play against. Two things I'm at a loss about: if we needed to move a D-man, why Smid? If we were willing to trade Smid, was there no better return than than Calgary cast-offs and prospects that didn't involve the team's provincial rival?

A soft team that's already easy to play against just got softer and easier to play against. Oh ya, and we signed the goalie that the rest of the league has passed on for a bloated contract, based on accounts so far.

There has to be deals to come, right? I mean, it doesn't take a business degree for MacT to understand that he's just made a position of weakness even weaker... Either we've got a big deal coming, which still doesn't make these good deals or signings, or being an Oiler fan just got crappier today.

Not so sure the opposition hates to play against Smid. For that matter, I'm not sure there is any d man on the Oil that NHL opposition hate to play against. But my interpretation of the analytic data, such as I'm able, is that he had just about the worst numbers of any regular dman (we are talking about such things as +- scoring chance/15 ES min, etc.), and had been trending down. Just seems to have hit a wall. Maybe the change will do him good, but he seemed to be floundering here.

The big problem is, of course, who steps in to replace him. Taylor Fedun (3 inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter) maybe, but it seems like a long time to wait for Nurse. MacT was strongly hinting Klefbom is coming sooner rather than later but again, it seems like they are rushing players into the lineup again.

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#216 Todd
November 08 2013, 11:16PM
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DSF wrote:

The Oilers could have signed Bryzgalov without making any other moves.

Fail.

DSF why did your mancrush Tallon fire his entire coaching staff (whom he himself handpicked)???

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#217 Renslip
November 09 2013, 01:15AM
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@gcw_rocks

"magic beans"

those two words may mark the high point for the Oil this year.

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#218 Pvtryan
November 09 2013, 02:08AM
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If laddy was making 1.5mil/yr and was #4 dman he'd be an oiler for life

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#219 Ratbastid
November 09 2013, 06:10AM
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The Oilers are nothing but pathetic and sadly, have no identity in the NHL. What are they known for except losing? Oh yeah, overpaying their players, specifically paying 6 million dollar contracts to 3 guys, 23 and under who are nowhere near their primes. Bryzgalov is nut job, but when he is on his game, he can contribute. Since the Oilers seem to be posting a failing grade between the pipes, hopefully he can bring some life to this dismal team. They should have paid him NHL minimum, however. The deal with Philly had to be one of the worst ever in history. Maybe the shake-up in goal will get Dubnyk off his ass as well, and playing comesurate to what he is getting paid. Which again, is too much for his skill level. Smid is an average D-Man who again is making too much money for his level of skill. This seems to be a pattern with how the Oilers management spend their money. Smid makes more than Subban, who is a Norris Trophy winner. Hell would freeze over (I guess it routinely does in Edmonton, anyway) before Smid's name would ever be mentioned in Norris Trophy discussions. Doubt if he will bring any more to Calgary than he did in Edmonton. Eakins is doing a terrible job, he seems to be spinning in circles, and McTavish and Lowe aren't helping him in the situation the Oilers are in. These trades are a symptom of management who doesn't know what to do. All three of them should be fired and obviously Katz the owner doesn't have the stones to do it. He's bleeding money and he must like it.

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#220 pelhem grenville
November 09 2013, 06:14AM
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"...and in walks a human whoopee cushion..."

best Brownlee line ... E V E R !!!!!!

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#221 Peakaboo Street
November 09 2013, 10:50AM
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Flames fan here. Brossoit is a mega talent goalie. I've seen him here for flames camps and the last wjc camp in which he was ROBBED of the starting goalie job. Too bad Subban was given the job 6 months before camp started. Brossoit was a particular favorite prospect of mine and I hate that he's on your team now. He will once again become a fan favorite in Edmonton.

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#222 ReJ
November 08 2013, 05:09PM
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Whaaaaaat

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#223 tileguy
November 08 2013, 05:16PM
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Horak, 6' 175 lbs, eeeke.

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#224 clyde
November 08 2013, 05:16PM
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Deece wrote:

I was just thinking that we need to make a move, and what we need to do is clear out all these defensively responsible, gritty, NHL caliber defencemen. You can't swing a dead cat in that locker room without hitting one.

Dear god, there better be something else coming...

Weird trade. Must be clearing cap and/or trying to ensure the Flames finish higher up in the standings. Horak is more of what you already have.

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#225 Smokey
November 08 2013, 05:18PM
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Theres another trading coming where we take on salary. Cause this a dump. Makes no sense otherwise. People freaking out is stupid. Wait a few days.

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#226 Rob F
November 08 2013, 05:18PM
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my favorite moment is the smid v iginla fight.....gonna miss his grit....loved his candor....

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#227 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
November 08 2013, 05:24PM
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I guess this is the state of our goaltending and they have no other choice now... i want to be positive but his philly years were not positive in any way.

what were his terms?

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#228 Tim in Kelowna
November 08 2013, 05:26PM
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I understand that this trade opens cap room to sign Bryz, which is a gamble that may or may not pay off. But we now have one less NHL defensemen on an already weak d-corps.

So surely there is another deal coming with a capable NHL dman coming our way... Isn't there?

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#229 PapaMike
November 08 2013, 05:27PM
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clyde wrote:

Horak can be a good 4rth line center, can kill penalties and gets in on the forecheck.

I guess we now know why the Oilers braintrust were meeting with Slats. Horak was a Ranger pick initially

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#230 MessyEH!
November 08 2013, 05:28PM
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From hockey futures.

The butterfly goalie can be at times brilliant and get on a hot streak but is prone to letting in a weak goal on a harmless-looking shot when he's fighting his game. His biggest weakness is that he can be susceptible to letting in soft goals and losing his mental focus. 

Great. Now everyone second verse same as the first.

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#231 Citizen David
November 08 2013, 05:32PM
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Forget my Bryzgalov bashing. What number will he wear? I need to get a jersey.

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#232 TDSM31
November 08 2013, 05:33PM
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Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess...

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#233 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 05:43PM
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Bryz, Omark and Meszaros for Weber, now I get it.

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#234 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 05:55PM
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Holy hell, imagine how the comments section is gonna look on the GDB if Bryz lays an egg his first game. Colonel Wanye's gonna need to pay for extra servers to handle the influx of despair.

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#235 Lochenzo
November 08 2013, 05:55PM
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Goaltending this year is the concern. This summers, guys like Halak, Elliot, Hiller hit the open market. They'll want to go somewhere where they can be the starter.

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#236 Rob F
November 08 2013, 06:01PM
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@DSF

HEY! I thought I was the human whoopee cushion....

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#237 Ryan14
November 08 2013, 06:17PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

What this really makes is Pronger for Roman Horak and Luaren Broussouit ....seriously....wtf

Don't forget Eberle and Marincin.

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#238 Clyde
November 08 2013, 06:27PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

Thanks mang.......this helps but don't you think giving up LB is a little steep?

Flames have quite a few goalie prospects right now including the starter for the USA world junior team who is really something. Brossout is good though

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#239 Harlie
November 08 2013, 06:29PM
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DSF wrote:

Gord MiIler ‏@GMilIerTSN 2m

BREAKING: EDM trade RW Ales Hemsky + 2014 2nd Rounder for PHI RW Wayne Simmonds

Oops...fake account.

Damn!

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#240 dougtheslug
November 08 2013, 06:41PM
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It's only a game, why you heff to be mad???

Next trade will be soooo humongous big....

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#241 Gordie Wayne
November 08 2013, 06:59PM
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Nice find!

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#242 DSF
November 08 2013, 07:07PM
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Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 35s

GM MacTavish on Smid: "I thank him for his work ethic and sacrifice on behalf of the hockey club and we wish him well."

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#243 BleedingOil
November 08 2013, 07:36PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

As far as I have read in wiki, any pro contract signed counts as one of the 50, irrelevant if it is a minor league deal or not. There is a 90 player limit that each team has which includes all signed and unsigned draft picks, players in College/ University or any player drafted within the last 2 NHL seasons which teams have exclusive rights to for the two years.

Number of contracts and salary cap wiki

there is a difference between the oilers signing a 2 way contract to AHL and OKC signing. Cheechoo never counted against our cap because he was ppty of OKC and NOT the Oilers. He could never get called up, and trades were done by AHL. The only difference here is that Katz owns the AHL franchise. Its not like that league wide

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#244 BLAKPOO
November 08 2013, 07:51PM
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I'm just amazed Team Lowe made a deal with Team Burke.

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#245 LoweBlow
November 08 2013, 07:56PM
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DSF wrote:

Bryz is apparently headed to OKC for a conditioning stint.

So bloody disappointing. It would have been amazing to see him in the lineup against his old team. Bryz cold couldn't be that much different that our current goaltending.

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#246 DanMan
November 08 2013, 08:10PM
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Maybe its for the best

MacT and 6Rings are aspiring to have the smallest, $hittiest team in nhl history.. Yay!!!

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#247 Bryan in SK
November 08 2013, 08:14PM
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Bryzgalov?!

Aren't there bears in the forest near Edmonton?

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#248 Slats
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

Nick Schulz is a UFA after this season so it wouldn't do a lot to free future cap space, well except not re-signing him.

I am assiming N. Schulz career is not over so some cap space would be moved. All we got in return was a 4th line plugger and a prospect goalie though there has to be more this . . . No?

Im surprised we did not get a pick

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#249 Johnnydapunk
November 08 2013, 08:15PM
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BleedingOil wrote:

there is a difference between the oilers signing a 2 way contract to AHL and OKC signing. Cheechoo never counted against our cap because he was ppty of OKC and NOT the Oilers. He could never get called up, and trades were done by AHL. The only difference here is that Katz owns the AHL franchise. Its not like that league wide

I am aware of that, and specifically if it was just OKC signing him, then fair enough, but if you google the signing you will see that MacT did indeed sign him albeit to a deal for Pickard to play in the minors, maybe even a two way deal of some sort.

Also should point out that Katz does not own OKC Barons as they are owned by a local group who work under the name of Prodigal Hockey. Katz does indeed own the OilKings through his Rexall Sports banner though and naturally that is a completely different kettle of fish to the NHL Oil and have no official affiliation as far as I am aware.

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#250 Hemmercules
November 08 2013, 08:19PM
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There must be another deal in the works. There is no way Mact can't know what his defense is right now. Tsn mentioned a 3 mil contract for Brys which was speculation but I hope to god it's lower than that.

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