Oilers deal Ladislav Smid, sign Ilya Bryzgalov

Jonathan Willis
November 08 2013 05:08PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers have traded Ladislav Smid to the Calgary Flames. Reportedly, they have also signed goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov.

The Trade

On it's own, this deal is a clear win for the Calgary Flames.

The only legitimate NHL player in this trade is Ladislav Smid. He has his faults; in particular he isn't an especially good puck-mover and has always been at his best when paired with a defenceman who can take primary responsibility for that part of the game. With that said, he is a legitimate middle-pairing defensive defenceman and a welcome physical presence, a guy who can kill penalties and has played some tough minutes over the years.

Olivier Roy is a marginal NHL goaltending prospect at this point, a guy still struggling to prove he can play regularly at the AHL level. Laurent Brossoit, an ex-Edmonton Oil King, is in his first year as a professional but is a better prospect long-term. Neither of these guys really matter in the NHL picture in the short term.

Roman Horak adds centre depth. He has 82 games of NHL experience but has spent most of this season with Abbotsford; he'll help the Barons a lot at centre right now and provides the Oilers with a second plausible call-up at that position (along with Linus Omark.

In the balance: the Oilers cleared cap space, but their NHL roster just got poorer.

Bryzgalov

Ilya Bryzgalov is a pretty good goalie. We don't have contract details yet, but the best guess is that we're looking at a one-year deal somewhere in the $2.0 - $2.5 million per year range. This isn't a totally surprising move; Jason Gregor reported it might happen not that long ago on this site.

Over the last five seasons, Bryzgalov has posted a 0.923 save percentage at even-strength. That makes him a little better than Devan Dubnyk and puts him in the same range as guys like Jonathan Quick, Carey Price and Corey Crawrford over that span. The difference is that Bryzgalov also famously imploded after being signed to a amassive ocntract by Philadelphia.

This is a good addition, particularly if he's being brought in to compete with Devan Dubnyk for playing time. It's not enough to explain the Smid trade, unless the contract is horrific. 

That's where we are now. The Oilers are better in net at the moment, significantly worse on defence and if another move doesn't come this has been a very bad night for Craig MacTavish. Another move is probably coming, and it will need to be a good one to make up for what's already happened.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, Sportsnet, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#151 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:04PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Holy hell, imagine how the comments section is gonna look on the GDB if Bryz lays an egg his first game. Colonel Wanye's gonna need to pay for extra servers to handle the influx of despair.

"if"?

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#152 Shredder
November 08 2013, 06:17PM
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I for one am excited at the goalie prospect...I think Broissoit is going to be the next great goalie...in 4-5 years. but the team right kinda sucks and just got worse

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#153 MessyEH!
November 08 2013, 06:30PM
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DSF wrote:

Gord MiIler ‏@GMilIerTSN 2m

BREAKING: EDM trade RW Ales Hemsky + 2014 2nd Rounder for PHI RW Wayne Simmonds

Oops...fake account.

Well played Sir. You just broke my heart.

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#154 Spoils
November 08 2013, 06:32PM
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RexHolez wrote:

I'm done with this team

the rules on this are simple. You can check out, but you can never leave.

good luck actually caring about another team bro.

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#155 Johnnydapunk
November 08 2013, 06:49PM
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!!!!!!!BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!

The Oil have also signed the goaltending god that is Chet Pickard to a minor league deal to play in OKC who last season played in Somewhere in Sweden.

I had no real monster breaking story to offer except this accidentally found tidbit which might have some meaning with regards to the 50 contract limit or who will be assigned where, or some other piece from a puzzle of a picture that only MacT and 6Rings is seeing or has seen.

I like Tylenol 3, keeping my dental blues away and making me loopy as fook :-)

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#156 Eulers
November 08 2013, 06:50PM
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I hope we are trading for a physical player that bleeds copper and blue and sticks up for his teammates. Like Smid...

Break my freaking heart! And for spare parts??

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#157 Randaman
November 08 2013, 06:57PM
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Most of you are caught up in a team loyalty to Smid. I understand that. He's a warrior. On to the positives; we just got faster on D no matter what you think. You will see how slow Smid is when Hall blows by him time after time. We got a great goalie prospect. Roy is a bust. Something else is in the works. I smell Simmonds coming here I hope. Wait for it...

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#158 hankthetank
November 08 2013, 07:06PM
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@TSNRyanRishaug: For those expecting another Oiler move any second, don’t hold your breath. Sensing they are done for the time being. Nothing imminent.

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#159 Dangilitis
November 08 2013, 07:11PM
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Stack Pad Save wrote:

What this really makes is Pronger for Roman Horak and Luaren Broussouit ....seriously....wtf

If you are playing that game, Pronger also helped get us Eberle, Klefbom, Marincin. But who's counting?

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#160 Johnnydapunk
November 08 2013, 07:20PM
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ubermiguel wrote:

OKC-only contract doesn't count against limit I believe. Might mean Bachman's hurt worse than we know.

As far as I have read in wiki, any pro contract signed counts as one of the 50, irrelevant if it is a minor league deal or not. There is a 90 player limit that each team has which includes all signed and unsigned draft picks, players in College/ University or any player drafted within the last 2 NHL seasons which teams have exclusive rights to for the two years.

Number of contracts and salary cap wiki

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#161 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 07:28PM
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DSF wrote:

Dan Tencer ‏@dantencer 8m

MacTavish on @630CHED re: the churning rumour mill: "Certainly no moves imminent and hopefully none for quite some time."

Ugh, I think I just vomited in my mouth a bit.

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#162 Don W
November 08 2013, 07:30PM
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Makes me wonder what the potential deal with Philly was at the draft that MacT considered a bad trade. I thought someone said Smid and both 2nd round picks for Coburn. That would be way better than this but it would have capped the oilers out.

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#163 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 07:56PM
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DSF wrote:

Hey. I'm not a big fan of Smid but he is an actual NHL player...likely a 5-6 D on a decent team.

But he was traded for Horak, who you can find in the remainder bin at K-Mart anytime you like and a G prospect who is many years away, if ever.

The old saying that "the team that gets the best player wins the trade" leaves this as a HUGE win for the Flames.

Not even close.

This. LB may turn into something down the road, but as it stands now, MacT just got his bell rung. By friggin Feaster, no less.

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#164 DanMan
November 08 2013, 08:06PM
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The only d-man we had that was somewhat difficult to play against.. Good God

I am now bigger than our entire defence core other than belov. That is just sad. WTMF!

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#165 Wil Fraser
November 08 2013, 08:12PM
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DanMan wrote:

The only d-man we had that was somewhat difficult to play against.. Good God

I am now bigger than our entire defence core other than belov. That is just sad. WTMF!

Get off the internets Dusty.

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#166 DanMan
November 08 2013, 08:18PM
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The silver lining is that we clear room for soft euro d-man prospects

We dont want to be known as big meanies, after all

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#167 DSF
November 08 2013, 08:31PM
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Harlie wrote:

And that's where we differ, I see LB as legit #1 starter within 3 years.

I liked Smid's game but he was a passenger like most on this team. Only has 2 plus seasons in his career, last one 11/12 season.

You like these numbers?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4802

Good grief.

He's playing in the ECHL after being shelled in the AHL.

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#168 camdog
November 08 2013, 09:59PM
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@camdog

And does anybody remember what Mact said when he signed Labarbera?

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#169 2004Z06
November 08 2013, 10:11PM
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DSF wrote:

Easy there Sparky.

There is no evidence, none, that he will ever be an NHL goaltender.

You may be right, but for all the bitching that we have no goaltending depth in the system he is a huge upgrade over Roy.

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#170 Eddie Shore
November 08 2013, 10:33PM
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Bryz at $1.75... Did Mac need to clear space to fit him in or should we expect something more to shake down(please dear God)?

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#171 camdog
November 08 2013, 10:34PM
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@HeavyChevy

I heard Bryz was getting 3 million.

As to the Ducks trading a goalie, it won't be to Edmonton, not after what we did to them with Penner and Schultz. THere is no love between the organizations.

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#172 dougtheslug
November 08 2013, 10:36PM
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Actually, I've always likes Laddy, but he really seems to have regressed over the past couple of seasons, and his performance this year, objectively, has continued to trend downward. And getting walked around by Richard Panik for the winning goal against TB (Richard who? At least Horcoff, in his last game, got undressed by Datsyuk. But Richard Panik?) may well have been the final nail in his coffin.

Clearly a salary dump of an underperforming player (another of Tambo's genuis moves), and indicative of things to come, and not, despite DSF's crowings, a sign of MacT's dementia.

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#173 Deece
November 08 2013, 05:13PM
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I was just thinking that we need to make a move, and what we need to do is clear out all these defensively responsible, gritty, NHL caliber defencemen. You can't swing a dead cat in that locker room without hitting one.

Dear god, there better be something else coming...

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#174 DevoKnows
November 08 2013, 05:15PM
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This doesn't make sense unless we are unloading cap space for a bigger trade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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#175 westcoastoil
November 08 2013, 05:20PM
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Let's hope the Smid deal is also a precursor to Stall or Girardi coming over from NYR

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#176 PapaMike
November 08 2013, 05:22PM
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I get signing 'B', but sending Smid to the Flames is what is wrong with the Oilers. Never EVER trade with them. I need more beer.

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#177 Virtual_Xi
November 08 2013, 05:22PM
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cant wait till we keep losing and we get some beeeeeuty interviews from the legend himself!!!

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#178 KRad
November 08 2013, 05:23PM
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I don't really like this deal, we could have gotten Brossoit cheaper at the draft (and yes, we didn't have the poor start to goaltending but it was an area that MacT wanted to address). But we do have a plethora of middle pairing defencemen and it clears cap space for Bryz (not that I'm exactly wild about having him either). But my question is why in the world did the Flames do this? You don't trade prospects for players in year 1 of a rebuild! And it isn't like they have actual goaltenders in their system. But whatever, I'm an Oilers fan what the f#$% do I know about how to do a rebuild.

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#179 Craig1981
November 08 2013, 05:24PM
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clyde wrote:

Horak can be a good 4rth line center, can kill penalties and gets in on the forecheck.

But is that worth a top 4 pairing d-man?

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#180 clyde
November 08 2013, 05:29PM
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DSF wrote:

You can find a player like that on waivers or as free agents every offseason.

Very true.

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#181 Johnnydapunk
November 08 2013, 05:45PM
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I still laugh at Bryzgalov defending Pronger with this gem of an interview, with the bonus of his thoughts on living in Edmonton.

Bryzgalov on Edmonton

If it is true that he signed, then welcome to the terrordome Bryz!

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#182 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 05:45PM
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DSF wrote:

Robin Brownlee ‏@Robin_Brownlee 12m

Already a laughingstock, the Oilers get funnier by signing Bryzgalov. Dubnyk left the door open and in walks the human whoopee cushion.

That's GOLD, Robin! GOLD, I tell ya!!

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#183 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:03PM
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Wonder if he could make the Philly game tom, as back up only, would be classic. As for Smid wish they had dumped his salary anywhere other than Calgary.

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#184 Rama Lama
November 08 2013, 06:04PM
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I do not understand why the Calgary Lames would do this deal..........someone like SMID does not really help them,........It's going to be wierd seeing him in Red.

The guy is a classic warrior ........too bad he did not have more skill with the puck.

All the best Smiddy........you were always an honest hockey player who defended your team mates with everything you had!

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#185 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 06:07PM
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@Alsker

Positive Friday, it's really all I've got left after this season.

D:

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#186 dougtheslug
November 08 2013, 06:12PM
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http://youtu.be/OtaWkLFfevc

Don't worry. Be Happy

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#187 Clyde
November 08 2013, 06:12PM
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Rama Lama wrote:

I do not understand why the Calgary Lames would do this deal..........someone like SMID does not really help them,........It's going to be wierd seeing him in Red.

The guy is a classic warrior ........too bad he did not have more skill with the puck.

All the best Smiddy........you were always an honest hockey player who defended your team mates with everything you had!

Pretty small def corps that just got run over the past 2 games and they are playing wideman and Brodie way too much.

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#188 Shifty203
November 08 2013, 06:17PM
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if this is it, then MacT must read this site, and this is his response to the "it can't get any worse" saying going around.

Unless he is getting a legit #1 defenseman back later, the oilers meerly traded sideways today.

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#189 andrewmk20
November 08 2013, 06:17PM
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@Stack Pad Save

Eberle was drafted with Anaheim's first round pick so he should be included in that deal.

But yes that trade was horrific. I was hoping that if they were going to deal Smid it would be for an upgrade on defence. Coburn, Ehrhoff, etc. This deal is quite poor unless the Oilers are doing more.

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#190 Jj
November 08 2013, 06:35PM
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I don't think trading smid is a bad idea long term, but couldn't they of got more than that for him at the trade deadline? It seems either that or using I'm in a multi-piece deal would have been much smarter.

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#191 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:41PM
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Smid, Bryz,Hemmer, insanity reigns.. is this because its Rorschach's b-day.

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#192 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:43PM
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westcoastoil wrote:

How bad is DD's season? He just cost us Smid for a goalie with a career .913s%

Better Smid than Eberle.

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#193 jonny94
November 08 2013, 06:50PM
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Kevin wrote:

Yes- Klowe is freeing up cap space to extend Yakupov to a seven year $42 million dollar contract.

Hahahahahaha good god I hope you're wrong

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#194 Johnnydapunk
November 08 2013, 06:57PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I just see it as a kind salary dump that doesn't really harm anyone too badly. The flames have cap room to play around with so Smid's contract isn't too much of an issue. I am a bit envious that you got Berra as he will be a star for you guys once he fully gets used to the North American game as I'm sure there is still some adjustments to get used to.

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#195 Hemmercules
November 08 2013, 06:59PM
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pkam wrote:

The problem is MacT is getting a goalie who was cut by an ECHL team this summer. Just like he said earlier, the best move sometimes is no move. Brzy may be worse than what we have, including Roy and Bunz. This move may be worse than not making a move.

I thought that stint with the echl team was only temporary. Keep in shape type of thing.

Fans wanted changes. Bold moves. Mact is doing something. Gambles for sure but something. Can't please everyone I guess. More to come I'm sure.

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#196 ubermiguel
November 08 2013, 07:05PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

!!!!!!!BREAKING NEWS !!!!!!!!

The Oil have also signed the goaltending god that is Chet Pickard to a minor league deal to play in OKC who last season played in Somewhere in Sweden.

I had no real monster breaking story to offer except this accidentally found tidbit which might have some meaning with regards to the 50 contract limit or who will be assigned where, or some other piece from a puzzle of a picture that only MacT and 6Rings is seeing or has seen.

I like Tylenol 3, keeping my dental blues away and making me loopy as fook :-)

OKC-only contract doesn't count against limit I believe. Might mean Bachman's hurt worse than we know.

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#197 DSF
November 08 2013, 07:06PM
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Edmonton Oilers ‏@EdmontonOilers 27s

"(The trade) was an opportunity to give us some cap (room) to do a few other things and add goaltending depth." - GM MacTavish

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#198 Butters
November 08 2013, 07:07PM
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@Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty) Say again?

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#199 Harlie
November 08 2013, 07:15PM
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Bucknuck wrote:

I don't mind trading Ladi Smid. I get pissed when they trade him for nothing. We keep hearing how hard it is to get big gritty reliable players, and they give one away for a couple of long shot prospects. It's really disappointing.

I watched LB in all of the WJHL playoff games leading up to the Oilkings winning the cup.

LB literally stole a few close games and made some huge saves. I am by no means a goaltending expert but he kinda looked like Patrick Roy with his size and style and the team always played confidently in front of him.

It's no surprise the Oilkings fortunes turned the minute LB was signed to the NHL and Jarry started getting the starts.

We got a quality prospect, in fact excellent quality, I just hope we don't ruin him in the last part of his development..

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#200 Gordie Wayne
November 08 2013, 07:23PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

Is this true? Hemsky + 2nd rounder for Simmonds?

http://tracking.si.com/2013/11/08/wayne-simmonds-oilers-flyers-trade/

Sorry if this has been mentioned already...

Sorry:

From Gord Miller's real Twitter account: "There is a fake account out there, I am not reporting a Hemsky trade."

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