Oilers deal Ladislav Smid, sign Ilya Bryzgalov

Jonathan Willis
November 08 2013 05:08PM

 

The Edmonton Oilers have traded Ladislav Smid to the Calgary Flames. Reportedly, they have also signed goaltender Ilya Bryzgalov.

The Trade

On it's own, this deal is a clear win for the Calgary Flames.

The only legitimate NHL player in this trade is Ladislav Smid. He has his faults; in particular he isn't an especially good puck-mover and has always been at his best when paired with a defenceman who can take primary responsibility for that part of the game. With that said, he is a legitimate middle-pairing defensive defenceman and a welcome physical presence, a guy who can kill penalties and has played some tough minutes over the years.

Olivier Roy is a marginal NHL goaltending prospect at this point, a guy still struggling to prove he can play regularly at the AHL level. Laurent Brossoit, an ex-Edmonton Oil King, is in his first year as a professional but is a better prospect long-term. Neither of these guys really matter in the NHL picture in the short term.

Roman Horak adds centre depth. He has 82 games of NHL experience but has spent most of this season with Abbotsford; he'll help the Barons a lot at centre right now and provides the Oilers with a second plausible call-up at that position (along with Linus Omark.

In the balance: the Oilers cleared cap space, but their NHL roster just got poorer.

Bryzgalov

Ilya Bryzgalov is a pretty good goalie. We don't have contract details yet, but the best guess is that we're looking at a one-year deal somewhere in the $2.0 - $2.5 million per year range. This isn't a totally surprising move; Jason Gregor reported it might happen not that long ago on this site.

Over the last five seasons, Bryzgalov has posted a 0.923 save percentage at even-strength. That makes him a little better than Devan Dubnyk and puts him in the same range as guys like Jonathan Quick, Carey Price and Corey Crawrford over that span. The difference is that Bryzgalov also famously imploded after being signed to a amassive ocntract by Philadelphia.

This is a good addition, particularly if he's being brought in to compete with Devan Dubnyk for playing time. It's not enough to explain the Smid trade, unless the contract is horrific. 

That's where we are now. The Oilers are better in net at the moment, significantly worse on defence and if another move doesn't come this has been a very bad night for Craig MacTavish. Another move is probably coming, and it will need to be a good one to make up for what's already happened.

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Jonathan Willis is a freelance writer. He currently works for Oilers Nation, the Edmonton Journal and Bleacher Report. He's co-written three books and worked for myriad websites, including Grantland, ESPN, The Score, and Hockey Prospectus. He was previously the founder and managing editor of Copper & Blue.
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#201 Peakaboo Street
November 09 2013, 10:50AM
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Flames fan here. Brossoit is a mega talent goalie. I've seen him here for flames camps and the last wjc camp in which he was ROBBED of the starting goalie job. Too bad Subban was given the job 6 months before camp started. Brossoit was a particular favorite prospect of mine and I hate that he's on your team now. He will once again become a fan favorite in Edmonton.

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#202 Smokey
November 08 2013, 05:18PM
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Theres another trading coming where we take on salary. Cause this a dump. Makes no sense otherwise. People freaking out is stupid. Wait a few days.

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#203 reaperfunkss (2nd tier fan)
November 08 2013, 05:24PM
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I guess this is the state of our goaltending and they have no other choice now... i want to be positive but his philly years were not positive in any way.

what were his terms?

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#204 DSF
November 08 2013, 05:34PM
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Still see something getting done between EDM and Philly. Oil may have to take on Meszaros to get what they want.

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#205 OilClog
November 08 2013, 06:01PM
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Pronger.. Coming back

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#206 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:04PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Holy hell, imagine how the comments section is gonna look on the GDB if Bryz lays an egg his first game. Colonel Wanye's gonna need to pay for extra servers to handle the influx of despair.

"if"?

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#207 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 06:07PM
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@Alsker

Positive Friday, it's really all I've got left after this season.

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#208 dougtheslug
November 08 2013, 06:12PM
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http://youtu.be/OtaWkLFfevc

Don't worry. Be Happy

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#209 DSF
November 08 2013, 06:35PM
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Brian Lawton ‏@brianlawton9 1m The night is getting crazier by the minute...... Hemske on the move to philly for 2 players including a forward and a D? Names start with S

Simmonds and Schenn?

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#210 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:41PM
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Smid, Bryz,Hemmer, insanity reigns.. is this because its Rorschach's b-day.

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#211 jonny94
November 08 2013, 06:50PM
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Kevin wrote:

Yes- Klowe is freeing up cap space to extend Yakupov to a seven year $42 million dollar contract.

Hahahahahaha good god I hope you're wrong

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#212 Gordie Wayne
November 08 2013, 06:59PM
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Nice find!

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#213 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:01PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I'll say it again....the reason you feel baffled is because you don't know Smid....you're overvaluing him.....not only is he one dimensional, he's not that physical....like Harlie said....more bear hugs than hits....seldom fights.....and he's at his prime....he's not getting any better.......he's a serviceable 4...more like a 5 on a good team.......if you don't believe me....ask yourself why the Oilers would trade him to anyone in their division let alone their arch rivals?

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#214 Gordie Wayne
November 08 2013, 07:23PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

Is this true? Hemsky + 2nd rounder for Simmonds?

http://tracking.si.com/2013/11/08/wayne-simmonds-oilers-flyers-trade/

Sorry if this has been mentioned already...

Sorry:

From Gord Miller's real Twitter account: "There is a fake account out there, I am not reporting a Hemsky trade."

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#215 DSF
November 08 2013, 07:31PM
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Ari Gold wrote:

Relax everyone. This season is done anyway. Just consider the rest of the way a 'preseason' of sorts.

Brossoit is a better goalie than Roy. Good. Smid is a #4 Dman and he was exposed playing in a higher role in Edmonton. His faults are very aparent: slow, poor passing, marginal defensive zone coverage. His position as a #4 Dman is redundant with Ference, Schultz Jr., Belov, Petry, Larson, Fedun, Mirancin & Klefbom. Don't forget that he was being paid $3.5mil: that's far to high for someone of his skill at the #4 d-spot. Sadly his intangibles will be missed. He wanted to be in Etown, married a gal from here. He'll be missed. Sadly I hope this doesn't show that Oiler management has no loyalty to the rest of the league. I fear it may.

Horak is good at hockey, better than Smid (even though they play different positions). He's a smart hockey player. He'll be a decent fit at 4th line C. Certainly better than Acton & Smyth.

Bryz aside, this isn't a fleece job on MacT.

The Bryz signing, honestly, I can't imagine what a media frenzy this will be when they play in Philly. I seriously hope he starts. I know DE won't play him but it'd be amazing drama for the two bottomfeeder teams.

Bryz is apparently headed to OKC for a conditioning stint.

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#216 Oilers need Ogie Ogilthorpe!
November 08 2013, 07:39PM
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We get cap room for Bryz and room for prospects to show their stuff. We're overloaded with 2nd/3rd pairing dmen. I really liked #5, but something had to give. Lots of talk about Horc (roasted by Datsuyk yesterday) and Hemmer and the 'culture of losing'. Smid's been here since the cup run too. Hope it's not like what happened when we traded Matt Greene. Who knows, maybe Horak could help the PK now

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#217 Harlie
November 08 2013, 08:04PM
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@DSF

And that's where we differ, I see LB as legit #1 starter within 3 years.

I liked Smid's game but he was a passenger like most on this team. Only has 2 plus seasons in his career, last one 11/12 season.

You like these numbers?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4802

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#218 merfer
November 08 2013, 08:08PM
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Wow. You guys are harsh. Did it ever occur to you that MacT needed to dump some salary and Smid was fairly easy to trade. Also he did Smid a favor. Isn't his wife from Edmonton? She is now still very close to family and friends. I think they will be happier in Calgary than in Philly.

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#219 Slats
November 08 2013, 08:15PM
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Johnnydapunk wrote:

Nick Schulz is a UFA after this season so it wouldn't do a lot to free future cap space, well except not re-signing him.

I am assiming N. Schulz career is not over so some cap space would be moved. All we got in return was a 4th line plugger and a prospect goalie though there has to be more this . . . No?

Im surprised we did not get a pick

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#220 Greg the Hammer Valentine
November 08 2013, 08:15PM
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Harlie wrote:

And that's where we differ, I see LB as legit #1 starter within 3 years.

I liked Smid's game but he was a passenger like most on this team. Only has 2 plus seasons in his career, last one 11/12 season.

You like these numbers?

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4802

As a legit starter at the NHL level? Within 3 years??? Come to think of it, maybe in this organization, he actually can.

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#221 PapaMike
November 08 2013, 08:37PM
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Hemmercules wrote:

There must be another deal in the works. There is no way Mact can't know what his defense is right now. Tsn mentioned a 3 mil contract for Brys which was speculation but I hope to god it's lower than that.

Man, if it is true,$3MM prorated is insane. He is already getting

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#222 rob
November 08 2013, 09:46PM
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taking a chance on bryz is ok with me(i hate him but dubby sucks)trading smid was stupid but whatever,not having another trade in place to bolster blueline is just plain retarded!this team has sunk to the lowest point possible.get us some help with bold moves,not stupid ones!

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#223 DAVE
November 08 2013, 10:44PM
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camdog wrote:

Bob Stauffer says those rumours are not true and are complete "BS".

The reality is that Mact has hancuffed the organization by not buying out Eager, signing Labarbera, Grebeshkov and Macintyre. That's 4 wasted roster spots on gut shots. On top of that we have Potter in the minors. The Oilers as it stands have 5 players signed to Nhl contracts on the Barons. I guess Potter will likely be recalled at some time, but that's just not good asset management.

You are right, up against the contract wall, and whole world know's it. Bad salary dump, with no bad contract's being dumped.

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#224 DSF
November 08 2013, 05:45PM
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mc79hockey ‏@mc79hockey 6m

Vomits. RT @HBomb1982 Gregor throws out Hemsky, Meszaros and Simmonds names.

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#225 Rama Lama
November 08 2013, 06:04PM
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I do not understand why the Calgary Lames would do this deal..........someone like SMID does not really help them,........It's going to be wierd seeing him in Red.

The guy is a classic warrior ........too bad he did not have more skill with the puck.

All the best Smiddy........you were always an honest hockey player who defended your team mates with everything you had!

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#226 Rama Lama
November 08 2013, 06:20PM
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Clyde wrote:

Pretty small def corps that just got run over the past 2 games and they are playing wideman and Brodie way too much.

Thanks mang.......this helps but don't you think giving up LB is a little steep?

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#227 Harlie
November 08 2013, 06:29PM
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DSF wrote:

Gord MiIler ‏@GMilIerTSN 2m

BREAKING: EDM trade RW Ales Hemsky + 2014 2nd Rounder for PHI RW Wayne Simmonds

Oops...fake account.

Damn!

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#228 Johnnydapunk
November 08 2013, 06:57PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I just see it as a kind salary dump that doesn't really harm anyone too badly. The flames have cap room to play around with so Smid's contract isn't too much of an issue. I am a bit envious that you got Berra as he will be a star for you guys once he fully gets used to the North American game as I'm sure there is still some adjustments to get used to.

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#229 Old Retired Guy (A.K.A. Die-Nasty)
November 08 2013, 07:01PM
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The Last Big Bear wrote:

Brossoit could become something at the NHL level. But so could Olivier Roy, goalies are just too hard to predict. Brossoit clearly has a better chance, but we're still talking about two guys who will probably never make it.

Horak has essentially already made it, he could slot into the Oilers' bottom 6 tomorrow. But he has had difficulty scoring at the pro level, so odds are against him getting TOO much better (he will improve somewhat, I'm sure).

I know what kind of game Smid brings. And I like it. He's a defenceman who can defend. He's one-dimensional, but sometimes that's exactly the dimension you need. The Flames need that dimension. But the Oilers probably need it even more, so this trade is pretty much baffling.

I'll say it again....the reason you feel baffled is because you don't know Smid....you're overvaluing him.....not only is he one dimensional, he's not that physical....like Harlie said....more bear hugs than hits....seldom fights.....and he's at his prime....he's not getting any better.......he's a serviceable 4...more like a 5 on a good team.......if you don't believe me....ask yourself why the Oilers would trade him to anyone in their division let alone their arch rivals?

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#230 hankthetank
November 08 2013, 07:06PM
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@TSNRyanRishaug: For those expecting another Oiler move any second, don’t hold your breath. Sensing they are done for the time being. Nothing imminent.

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#231 Gordie Wayne
November 08 2013, 07:21PM
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Is this true? Hemsky + 2nd rounder for Simmonds?

http://tracking.si.com/2013/11/08/wayne-simmonds-oilers-flyers-trade/

Sorry if this has been mentioned already...

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#232 DSF
November 08 2013, 07:22PM
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MacTavish on @630CHED re: the churning rumour mill: "Certainly no moves imminent and hopefully none for quite some time."

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#233 Don W
November 08 2013, 07:32PM
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Gordie Wayne wrote:

Sorry:

From Gord Miller's real Twitter account: "There is a fake account out there, I am not reporting a Hemsky trade."

I don't think the oilers have their 2nd either since they used it to get Perron. Honestly, people need to step up their game on these fake rumours.

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#234 camdog
November 08 2013, 10:37PM
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1.75, well that doesn't sound bad, I must have been incorrect.

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#235 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:42PM
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@camdog

For sure. I think any conversation MacT has had with any team regarding a goalie has resulted in a ridiculous asking price just based on his position.

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#236 HeavyChevy
November 08 2013, 10:55PM
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Jofa wrote:

The only way this remotely resembles sense is if a larger deal or deals are in the works, but even still, this is a bad deal...

The Oil's depth just lost significant depth in a steady blue liner that the opposition hates to play against. Two things I'm at a loss about: if we needed to move a D-man, why Smid? If we were willing to trade Smid, was there no better return than than Calgary cast-offs and prospects that didn't involve the team's provincial rival?

A soft team that's already easy to play against just got softer and easier to play against. Oh ya, and we signed the goalie that the rest of the league has passed on for a bloated contract, based on accounts so far.

There has to be deals to come, right? I mean, it doesn't take a business degree for MacT to understand that he's just made a position of weakness even weaker... Either we've got a big deal coming, which still doesn't make these good deals or signings, or being an Oiler fan just got crappier today.

Well said. I really hope that the deal is significant and doesn't fall apart.

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#237 Dog Train
November 08 2013, 10:57PM
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I have no problem with getting rid of Smid and signing Bryzgalov. Smid was a good soldier but once our D is fully healthy, I'm not sure that I wouldn't rather Larsen or Fedun playing instead of him. Not to mention guys like Klefbom and Marincin down the road. We didn't really give up much and we added some cap flexibility going forward. I'm not totally sold on Brossoit but I wasn't a big Roy guy either.

As for Bryzgalov, if nothing else this gives Dubnyk some real competition. If we didn't address the goaltending then Dubnyk could have gone out and sucked every game the rest of the season and still been the starter by default.

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#238 Uks Ya !!
November 08 2013, 11:22PM
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Eberle for Evander Kane

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Hemsky & either Omark or 2nd round pick for Simmonds!!

To the dumb ass saying we traded our 2nd rounder for Perron I believe we still have our 2015, 2016, 2017 etc... Draft picks available to trade away for HELP!!!!

Simmonds & Kane play the type of game we NEED!!!

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#239 Uks ya!
November 08 2013, 11:26PM
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Uks Ya !! wrote:

Eberle for Evander Kane

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Hemsky & either Omark or 2nd round pick for Simmonds!!

To the dumb ass saying we traded our 2nd rounder for Perron I believe we still have our 2015, 2016, 2017 etc... Draft picks available to trade away for HELP!!!!

Simmonds & Kane play the type of game we NEED!!!

P.s watch sportnet tonite and see The Evander Kane issue in the Peg!

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#240 Cynic
November 09 2013, 01:55AM
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I can't wait to see Philip Larsen taking a regular shift. Has an NHL goalie ever finished a season with a GAA above 5.00?

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#241 **
November 09 2013, 05:19AM
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i'm a fan of Bryzgalov. The season just got more fun!. I'm a fan of Smid too though, so mixed feelings because I'm also a fan of brossoit.

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#242 pelhem grenville
November 09 2013, 06:14AM
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"...and in walks a human whoopee cushion..."

best Brownlee line ... E V E R !!!!!!

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#243 Toro
November 08 2013, 05:16PM
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Bryzgalov just signed here , Smid gone for cap reasons

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#244 westcoastoil
November 08 2013, 05:20PM
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Let's hope the Smid deal is also a precursor to Stall or Girardi coming over from NYR

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#245 DSF
November 08 2013, 05:42PM
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John Shannon ‏@JSportsnet 1m Oilers make Bryzgalov signing official. 1 year deal.

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#246 Jordan Nugent-Hallkins
November 08 2013, 06:01PM
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EDIT: double post, please delete!

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#247 Shifty203
November 08 2013, 06:17PM
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if this is it, then MacT must read this site, and this is his response to the "it can't get any worse" saying going around.

Unless he is getting a legit #1 defenseman back later, the oilers meerly traded sideways today.

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#248 Harlie
November 08 2013, 06:26PM
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DSF wrote:

Gord MiIler ‏@GMilIerTSN 2m

BREAKING: EDM trade RW Ales Hemsky + 2014 2nd Rounder for PHI RW Wayne Simmonds

Oops...fake account.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

BOLDY HAWN!

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#249 Alsker
November 08 2013, 06:31PM
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Jordan Nugent-Hallkins wrote:

Positive Friday, it's really all I've got left after this season.

D:

Sorry, but I couldnt help myself.

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#250 madjam
November 08 2013, 06:54PM
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L.Schenn, M.Streit , Coutourier and Simmonds for Eberle , J.Schultz and Hemsky (of which we pay half )says my squeezie board ?

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