Go time

Wanye
August 26 2009 11:02AM

For many folks the last 30 days were an ordinary August like many others. Relaxed summer fun, while we wait for the new season to begin and for Dancing with the Stars to end. But to us August 2009 will stand as our quarter life crisis that caused us to quit our job before it killed our soul in order to focus on hockey blogging.

During Great Depression II.

We are that dumb

We have realized of late: it is better to fail at doing something you love then succeed at something you hate. Even if that shit pays you well and has an inattentive IT department that hasn’t noticed “user pr62 has 3.2 trillion hits on OilersNation in the past 12 months.” At the exact time that many folks are glad to have a job – we have unwisely left ours and are setting out on our very own.

It went over well with the roommates:

Wanye: (enters room, throws down luggage) I’m home gentlemen. I bring you three vessels loaded rich spices from exotic lands.

Roommate 1: (watching TV) Whatever, keep it down.

Wanye: And also I have quit my job.

Roommate 1: (watching TV) Whatever, keep it down.

Back to OilersNation World HQ

nationhq

Having returned to the City last night, we immediately decided to lay in provisions for the long hard winter in a moment of Survivorman-esque planning. Never having to leave the house again, we were looking for commercial quantities of ready made meals, that require no added steps like adding milk. To our great joy we found a sale so massive that we had to go back to Wanye Manor and gather the roommates to assist in bringing our provisions back to the cave. $2 for a box of five granola bars? In this economy?

It boggles the mind: deliciousness

Taking stock of the scene

Job quit, survival provisions stocked in the pantry, we set about seeing what’s what on the Nations. While we were busy losing our mind Jonathan Willis has turned into a three-a-day article beast, providing insight and interesting articles multiple times per day.

So you can imagine our shock and horror when we read this comment last night from local media personality Bob Stauffer:

No disrespect to Mr. Willis, but five JW stories on the front page of ON is at least three and probably four too many. Given that JW has his own site do we really need all five lead stories on the ON site coming from someone who has no direct access to anybody that matters in hockey circles? Combine that with the fact that Jon resides in Mortheastern B.C., it can be argued he doesn’t really have a pulse for what is happening in Edmonton either. I can see getting Jon’s take once a week…but in this case I think less might be more. Take Care Bob Stauffer

Oh Bob. Really?

A few questions spring to mind:

1. Why bother?

What did Willis ever do to you? The guy is a gentleman who is busting his nuts in your field for a tenth the dough that you did when you started out. Rather than using your power and influence to cheer on emerging sports writers you have used it to shit on Willis publicly, in his home court we might add. Why bother?

2. What’s worse?

Having no access but saying something every day of interest or having plenty of access and rarely breaking news you know people are clamoring to hear?

See Bob, you who possesses both the bat phone number for Daryl Katz and the actual shoe size of Captain Ethan Moreau haven’t really used this power for any real good of late. Rather than calling out Willis for the stuff he talks about, you may want to look at yourself in the mirror and ask yourself about all of the stuff you haven’t talked about. Great stuff, interesting stuff you could discuss that you know people would want to know - except for the fact that it is easier to report the news that floats to the surface rather than do any real digging.

Compare if you dare, the portion of the media kicking it at well paid day jobs that haven’t done any real digging in years - to a guy like Willis who does nothing but dig – even though he has to dig for miles to find a glimmer of gold. There he is, day after day, grinding it out. When a guy like Willis gets that access that you refer to – watch out.

3. Willis is awesome

Jonathan Willis is a gentleman farmer, a scholar and an immediate recipient of any or all Wanye Organs of his choice should he ever need a donor. The guy takes ridiculous amounts of shit from people but continues to churn away, steadfastly becoming a wicked writer in the process. Nothing but good will come to a man of his nature.

In closing, be on the ready Nation

We have walked through a few doors of late and no longer recognize our surroundings. We are out on our own, cushy job be damned and we are going to try to take it up a notch around here. We have a year’s supply of granola bars to fuel us and no longer have anything better to do than work on our dream: hard hitting independant NHL coverage.

And on that day when the Willises, Brownlees and Gregors of the world are so highly read from coast to coast that the NHL has no other option but to grant them full access over which they have little control, we shall put our feet on our desk, crack a Bud Light and declare the job well done.

Until then – it’s game time.

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#151 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 10:43PM
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SierraRacs wrote:

A question for you. You haven’t been posting as frequently on C&B, is there a posting limit or is there an agreement between you and the other bloggers you share the site with?

OilersNation, at this point in time, is my priority, for a number of reasons. Thus they get the bulk of my work, and they generally get the first pieces I do each day.

Sometimes I will intentionally refrain from posting at Copper & Blue to leave the main page to others. I do that less here, since if Robin has a big story or whatever my work can just be bumped down the main page.

The other thing is that the nature of my writing is different. People talk about my love for stats, but I save most of my really indepth stuff for C&B, since the audience there is more inclined to that sort of thing. The really indepth stuff (like the AHL QualComp) takes more time, and thus it takes me longer to write those pieces, usually.

I hope that answers the question.

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#152 David S
August 26 2009, 10:43PM
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Bob Stauffer wrote:

You have a fine site here, unquestionably relevant; just felt you needed more than range of opinion in your writers on the front page.

Maybe you guys have it all wrong. Mayyyyybe Bob is hinting that he wants to JOIN the Oilers Nation staff.

I mean, who'd be so stupid as to openly diss an up and coming hockey site with a growing fan base and solid writers like Willis, Gregor, and Robin F!ckin' Brownlee. Don't even get me going about Wanye's MS Paint masterpieces, or hall of fame commenters like jeanshorts, Travis Dakin, towelboy and that strange duo archeologuy/ogden brother fattening up the post counts. Seriously, you'd have to be a complete idio...

Oh. Riiiiight.

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#153 David S
August 26 2009, 10:47PM
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I always wondered what kind of people switch to glasses of water after two beers at the bar. Guess its officially case closed on that life mystery.

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#154 David S
August 26 2009, 10:48PM
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^ (@ guys like Neil.)

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#155 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 10:53PM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

Imagine what you’d write if Quinn sounded off like you did in this blog from one of your comments: we’d all be calling him a baby.

Actually, at this point I'm pretty sure Wanye's convinced that Pat Quinn is a Saint. He'd pass out from the thrill of being mentioned.

If you choose the best writers to blog about the Oil then keep it to that and leave your adventures of beer drinking and baseball games for another blog called, ‘The Elite Bloggers of Oiler Writers With Nothing Else Productive To Do.

Maybe you haven't noticed, but this is what Wanye writes. Robin, Jason, Wanye and I each have our own way of writing which appeals to different people. Evidently Wanye isn't for you.

JW has his style and at times it is appropriate but really ask yourself, has ANYTHING he said during this slow summer really fug’n mattered at all? When Bob talks, I listen. When you or JW write I waste time during coffee breaks while the boys choose to play cribbage.

Apparently my style isn't for you. Fair enough. On the other hand, that post I did on Wayne Fleming was the most thorough piece I saw anywhere - if you think it didn't matter fair enough but I think you're wrong. There are other articles I could point to (a listing of UFA options to help the PK, the Mark Messier as Oilers' coach rumours, the Bibby study on the death of hockey, the Toni Rajala profile, etc., etc., etc.) but if you think it all didn't matter that's your perogative.

Honestly - and this isn't just directed at you - everyone's going to have an opinion. Some won't like me. But as long as I can look at my work and feel I'm doing a good job, I'm not going to worry about it.

Lastly, there's such a hard-core group of hockey fans on this site that most people want something - whatever it is - Oilers-related to dissect and argue about. It isn't easy to provide things every day, and it's a necessity to focus more on analysis and less on news during the summer, because less is happening. I'm happy I've been able to do that, and I'm comfortable with both criticism and suggestions.

By the way - and anyone feel free to chime in here - what sort of content would you like to see during the summer that we aren't providing? TIM S? Bob Cob?

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#156 ronaldo
August 26 2009, 10:56PM
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By the way - and anyone feel free to chime in here - what sort of content would you like to see during the summer that we aren’t providing?

Ummmmm, how bout Righteous Sack Beatings of Neil Sherwood.

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#157 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 10:57PM
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And while I think Bob's initial comment was badly phrased and lent itself to being construed as an attack, he's not wrong when he says we could all use more Brownlee, Wanye and Gregor (and Amber and JSBM and...). The diversity and range of voice on this site are one of the things that make it so appealing to a wide audience.

Unfortunately, sometimes Wanye's away for two weeks planing KansasCityNation, and sometimes Gregor's on holidays and sometimes Robin Brownlee already posted what he's paid to post. It's just the way things are.

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#158 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 10:58PM
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ronaldo wrote:

Ummmmm, how bout Righteous Sack Beatings of Neil Sherwood.

There's no need to kick anyone who takes a columnist named "Wanye Gretz" (don't forget - the 1994 LPGA comeback player of the year) too seriously.

They're already down.

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#159 Travis Dakin
August 26 2009, 11:02PM
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@ Jonathan Willis: Don't feed the troll buddy. You are very correct in that between the four of you, we get a little bit of different flavour and there is a little for everybody. If people don't like one guy, then by all means don't read it. You have that option. Please don't think twice about what you're providing. What we are getting is what we want and coincidentally, it is what you are giving. It's summer so things are obviously slow but If we want things made up we can go to Ecklund. Unfortunately, with the rapidly growing traffic we are starting to see a lot of negativity coming through. That's just people in general. When you're the hotness, someone is always going to try to take the wind out of your sails.

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#160 Archaeologuy
August 26 2009, 11:05PM
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David S wrote:

Don’t even get me going about Wanye’s MS Paint masterpieces, or hall of fame commenters like jeanshorts, Travis Dakin, towelboy and that strange duo archeologuy/ogden brother fattening up the post counts.

Did someone mention my name?

*returns to his archaeololair feverishly scheming new airtight arguments with which he can defeat his archnemesis, ogden brother (and chris)*

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#161 jeanshorts
August 26 2009, 11:05PM
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@ Neil Sherwood:

So, you agree with Bob that this site should have more diversity of articles, yet you complain that you don't like to read what Wanye and Willis write? That sounds a bit contradictory no? Either have your cake or eat it guy. Choose one.

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#162 Travis Dakin
August 26 2009, 11:15PM
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David S wrote:

or hall of fame commenters like jeanshorts, Travis Dakin, towelboy and that strange duo archeologuy/ogden brother fattening up the post counts.

@ Archaeologuy: @ jeanshorts: @The Towel Boy @ogden brother Holy crap we are famous!!! shout out to us.... oh it was just David S. Oh well, someone know us. Hi David. @Neil Sherwood You sir are not nice. uh.... yes.

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#163 Poo Czar
August 26 2009, 11:19PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

Either have your cake or eat it guy. Choose one.

Anyone else's blood boil when being called "guy"? Well done, sir.

And to the esteemed Mr. Gretz: I finally get a birthday pittance from the wife to spend on the lovely $40 (?!?) "Revolution" ON shirt and the shop has been down for months. I'm guessing that your new found career path coupled with your lust for skrilla (mmmm... discount granola bars...)will be resulting in a new just-in-time-for-training-camp line of ON gear hotness. Sadly, I demand a second run of that glorious blue shirt. NOW.

What, I'm supposed to support the JSBM crack habit by buying their rags? That Forest Whitaker shirt is damn funny though, I hates me some lazy eye... Wish I knew how to hide the link in text, but I'm too old to figure that crap out.

ps. Willis is still dreamy.

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#164 Jonathan Willis
August 26 2009, 11:22PM
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Poo Czar wrote:

Willis is still dreamy.

*looks at the ceiling, slowly backs out of the room*

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#165 Archaeologuy
August 26 2009, 11:23PM
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@ Travis Dakin: I know!! I'm almost ready to quit my job like Wanye and do this full time ;)

*double checks HIS agreement with ON to see how much HE gets paid per comment. Swiftly realizes that the agreement doesnt mention anything about getting paid, but instead mentions something about staying at least 50 yards away from Schools and Chuck E Cheese's. :(

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#166 Poo Czar
August 26 2009, 11:24PM
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Jonathan Willis wrote:

*looks at the ceiling, slowly backs out of the room*

Yeah Willis, you know how I likes it... Now go get the cape...

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#167 jeanshorts
August 26 2009, 11:32PM
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@ Poo Czar:

I'm not your guy, buddy. I'm not your buddy, friend. I'm not your friend, guy. Etc.

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#168 Neil Sherwood
August 27 2009, 12:50AM
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OK there Jay Dub. My comment "does any of it really fug'n matter?" was not entirely accurate. The stat/math entries are not for me. I find them to be filler that was completed very well with obvious research, but sometimes no news is good...no...better than a trip to Corsitown. It gets to be a bit too much. I have no doubt you are passionate and goal oriented and believe you deserve a shot at whatever you are aiming for in the sport reporting industry when you arrive at that level. Also, there have been stories you have come up with that have made you stand out in the clique of Oilblogeeks. Good on 'ya. If you need any more massaging or positive feedback on your stuff go to Thailand. -ON (like I said before) is the Oil blog of note -I'm a regular reader -I'd like to see it more focused on the Oil and less on the beer and clique crap. -I agree with Bob These are my comments, I stick by them For Jeanshorts and Ronaldo (not knowing who you are and not giving two willknots on Pokie Reddick's ass about it) there is only one thing worse than when a writer doesn't know when to put the keyboard away for a spell and that is commenters who must see themselves on the comment page day in and day out. You should download American Beauty and watch the opening scene again. Listen to Spacey's opening monologue.

Like all of you I need my fix and I've been without it for too long. The only methadone treatment for my addiction is the written word and if I get a couple bad doses then as #11 is my witness I'll tell the clinic all about it.

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#169 jeanshorts
August 27 2009, 02:55AM
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@ Neil Sherwood:

I own American Beauty as a matter of fact, and I think I'll stick to reenacting the shower jerk off scene instead.

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#170 A.T. Husky
August 27 2009, 04:32AM
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Archaeologuy wrote:

[...] *double checks HIS agreement with ON to see how much HE gets paid per comment. Swiftly realizes that the agreement doesnt mention anything about getting paid, but instead mentions something about staying at least 50 yards away from Schools and Chuck E Cheese’s.

David S wrote:

[...] or hall of fame commenters like jeanshorts, Travis Dakin, towelboy and that strange duo archeologuy/ogden brother fattening up the post counts [...]

Sounds like an allusion to an OilersNation "wolf pack," a la The Hangover

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#171 A.T. Husky
August 27 2009, 04:36AM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

OK there Jay Dub. My comment “does any of it really fug’n matter?” was not entirely accurate. The stat/math entries are not for me. I find them to be filler that was completed very well with obvious research, but sometimes no news is good…no…better than a trip to Corsitown. It gets to be a bit too much. I have no doubt you are passionate and goal oriented and believe you deserve a shot at whatever you are aiming for in the sport reporting industry when you arrive at that level. Also, there have been stories you have come up with that have made you stand out in the clique of Oilblogeeks. Good on ‘ya. If you need any more massaging or positive feedback on your stuff go to Thailand. -ON (like I said before) is the Oil blog of note -I’m a regular reader -I’d like to see it more focused on the Oil and less on the beer and clique crap. -I agree with Bob These are my comments, I stick by them For Jeanshorts and Ronaldo (not knowing who you are and not giving two willknots on Pokie Reddick’s ass about it) there is only one thing worse than when a writer doesn’t know when to put the keyboard away for a spell and that is commenters who must see themselves on the comment page day in and day out. You should download American Beauty and watch the opening scene again. Listen to Spacey’s opening monologue. Like all of you I need my fix and I’ve been without it for too long. The only methadone treatment for my addiction is the written word and if I get a couple bad doses then as #11 is my witness I’ll tell the clinic all about it.

I don't think you get it.

How does something get to be too much if you don't read it? Usually people don't read stuff they don't like.

If you're a regular reader and you think that the work here is merely a "trip to Corsitown," then why do you keep coming back?

No news is bad news, and you know that.

But analysis and news are different things as well.

If you don't like it, don't read it. Or else you'll just come across like a whiney b*tch.

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#172 JRyanMac
August 27 2009, 05:04AM
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@ Neil Sherwood: I own American Beauty as a matter of fact, and I think I’ll stick to reenacting the shower jerk off scene instead.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!! Well played, Sir.

And Mr. Sherwood, I've been reading this site for a long time, and never found the guys here to be some sort of clique. Everyone has just gotten to know each other through this site and others on the blogroll. I think you need to view certain articles with a sense of humor, and realize they are written from a fans perspective. That, or chose not to read them and wait until something that interests you comes up. Wanye Von Gretz IV is a funny, 99.9987% of us here like funny. 76.674% of all statistics are made up. Now back to watching a Stortini Summer.

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#173 Neil Sherwood
August 27 2009, 06:33AM
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OK OK. Sorry! I was using an aging browser. I've updated and now I see that it's not 'comment' it's 'positive comments only'. A complete oversight on my part. To make a final response to some of your suggestions. -I stopped reading stat loaded entries from Jay Dub a month ago. Didn't realise there was a date on the comment time but again it was my browser Actually, I could respond to a lot more but there's really no point. This site gave me a right to my opinion-I used it I have no desire at all to argue with Oiler fans because if you're an Oiler fan you must be a likable person in some way. I have something in common with everyone here-I'm a diehard: have been for 25 years and never once waivered. So, call me what you want-suggest that I just don't get it-I haven't whined at all but sure, call me a bitch. I like Stauffer and agreed with him and disagreed with your beloved comedian. Sorry for pissing on your panty parade. If you chose to read this then it should not upset you in anyway because you chose to read it and you only choose to read words that satisfy yourself in every way so there should really be no response to this comment for any reason.

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#174 cableguy
August 27 2009, 07:38AM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

I agree with Bob 100%. If ON is supposed to be the end all of Oilers blogs then they should treat it that way. Instead, at times, I read crap like this entry to which it sounds like a clique of wanna-be-know-it-alls that can’t stand the least bit of critisism. A lot of the material you write critisizes people you may never meet. Imagine what you’d write if Quinn sounded off like you did in this blog from one of your comments: we’d all be calling him a baby. You Gretz, sound like a turd suckling baby in this entry. If you choose the best writers to blog about the Oil then keep it to that and leave your adventures of beer drinking and baseball games for another blog called, ‘The Elite Bloggers of Oiler Writers With Nothing Else Productive To Do. JW has his style and at times it is appropriate but really ask yourself, has ANYTHING he said during this slow summer really fug’n mattered at all? When Bob talks, I listen. When you or JW write I waste time during coffee breaks while the boys choose to play cribbage.

Hi Pat, i'd like to buy a comma please...

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#175 Travis Dakin
August 27 2009, 07:45AM
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@ cableguy: hahaha

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#176 Mayor of MJ
August 27 2009, 07:46AM
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Sometimes those that have all the access in the world should, don't! And the ones that don't are the go getters of the world in the trenches picking up pennies trying to make a buck! For those pluggers that really make the world move along vs sitting high and mighty above the entire sports world looking down from their golden chair, we raise our empty beer can to you, and say keep on writing the content! H*ll, post 10 blogs a day, the fans of the nation crave it and need it!

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#177 MrOiler
August 27 2009, 11:42AM
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There's been a bit of an overload of Willis lately, but the articles are top notch.

Stuff happens.

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#178 GSC
August 27 2009, 02:44PM
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@ jeanshorts

Just for me, throw in "What is Love?" by Haddaway the next time the mood strikes you right...

(bobs head to the side in the obligatory Roxbury fashion)

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#179 Neil Sherwood
August 27 2009, 10:10PM
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Funny! You made fun of my puctuation and another commenter massaged your nuts by publicly laughing, therefore supporting your witty action of doing it. Seriously? Pathetic! Makes ya' a punctuation snob and they're about the most boring people on Earth to hang out with. Take a good look at what this site is becoming, a bunch of nutjuggling ego massagers that comment on grammar queen's weak, ridiculous comment. I'll miss the blogeek daily comment frat party from now on and leave you mudsliders to your business.

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#180 A.T. Husky
August 28 2009, 01:37AM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

OK OK. Sorry! I was using an aging browser. I’ve updated and now I see that it’s not ‘comment’ it’s ‘positive comments only’. A complete oversight on my part. To make a final response to some of your suggestions. -I stopped reading stat loaded entries from Jay Dub a month ago. Didn’t realise there was a date on the comment time but again it was my browser Actually, I could respond to a lot more but there’s really no point. This site gave me a right to my opinion-I used it I have no desire at all to argue with Oiler fans because if you’re an Oiler fan you must be a likable person in some way. I have something in common with everyone here-I’m a diehard: have been for 25 years and never once waivered. So, call me what you want-suggest that I just don’t get it-I haven’t whined at all but sure, call me a bitch. I like Stauffer and agreed with him and disagreed with your beloved comedian. Sorry for pissing on your panty parade. If you chose to read this then it should not upset you in anyway because you chose to read it and you only choose to read words that satisfy yourself in every way so there should really be no response to this comment for any reason.

Negative comments with no actual argument are just empty complaints. If you had a complaint as to the merit or relevance of the articles, then I'd say, fine, that's your opinion.

Phrases like "a trip to Corsitown" are just empty complaints, because they have more to do with your own preference than any tangible fault inherent in the readable product.

Lots of people seem to enjoy it - but you don't. So don't read it. Nobody said you can't voice your negative opinions but the flip side of the coin is we can disagree with you as well.

What's the difference? We disagree with you on grounds that we believe JW's work has merit and is relevant.

Your argument so far? You're annoyed at numbers. Boo hoo.

Get to the back of the line, buddy.

There's a reason we have JW punch the numbers for us.

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#181 Neil Sherwood
August 28 2009, 02:25AM
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@ A.T. Husky: You forgot my 'filler' comment. You don't bring a lot to the table do you A.T.? This site didn't get any closer to getting on the 'inside' by having a story written by a grade 'C' comedy act on Bob's comment. Isn't that the ultimate goal? A.T. you bore me. I could poke more holes in your comments than the Lightening D had last year, but....what's the point? I'd end up reading another reply made by you, knowing it was completed with the aid of a book of synonyms. You are an empty complaint A.T. I find this tangible fault inherent in your unreadable comments.

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#182 A.T. Husky
August 28 2009, 08:48AM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

@ A.T. Husky: You forgot my ‘filler’ comment. You don’t bring a lot to the table do you A.T.? This site didn’t get any closer to getting on the ‘inside’ by having a story written by a grade ‘C’ comedy act on Bob’s comment. Isn’t that the ultimate goal? A.T. you bore me. I could poke more holes in your comments than the Lightening D had last year, but….what’s the point? I’d end up reading another reply made by you, knowing it was completed with the aid of a book of synonyms. You are an empty complaint A.T. I find this tangible fault inherent in your unreadable comments.

Actually, it's not the ultimate goal.

And judging by your comments you missed the point entirely, but why am I surprised?

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#183 A.T. Husky
August 28 2009, 08:56AM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

@ A.T. Husky: You forgot my ‘filler’ comment. You don’t bring a lot to the table do you A.T.? This site didn’t get any closer to getting on the ‘inside’ by having a story written by a grade ‘C’ comedy act on Bob’s comment. Isn’t that the ultimate goal? A.T. you bore me. I could poke more holes in your comments than the Lightening D had last year, but….what’s the point? I’d end up reading another reply made by you, knowing it was completed with the aid of a book of synonyms. You are an empty complaint A.T. I find this tangible fault inherent in your unreadable comments.

Also, you do realize that a "book of synonyms" (known by many in the English speaking world as a thesaurus, amazing isn't it?) would have been completely useless for whatever you think I would've been using it for?

Somebody else sh*t on your poor grammar but it makes no sense to do the same to me. The outstanding thing is that, to this point, you have not given any actual line of reasoning for anything that you stand for, only that you stand for it.

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#184 Neil Sherwood
August 28 2009, 11:04AM
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@ A.T. Husky: Dear A.T., Ask 100 Edmontonians, over the age of 30, what a synonym is and 90 of them will say a brand of snowplow, the other 10 will surely know that a book of synonyms is a thesaurus, as do I. I used 'the book of' instead of 'thesaurus' as a matter of choice, knowing very well you would bring it up in your next comment or retort. My grammar was not shat upon, sir, it was my lack of or improper use of commas. I only suggested that you used a thesaurus because your comment was well written and I knew it would bother you, thus sparking a deep desire in the pit of your stomach to: A.)defend your honor B.) get in the last word. A.T. buddy, you know what? I'm not that down on Jay Dub, The Masked Joker, this site, you or any of the commenters or writers. I like the site. I read it daily and I never comment until I saw the Stauffer piece. Why? -I think this city is bloody lucky to have a guy like him. When I listen to him he tells it like it is. I learn a lot from him. -He can rap off stats from the top of his head unlike any other local sports reporter, and I've been listening to Edmonton radio since the Oil were in the WHL. -He puts Tencer in his place at times and I feel that was needed. -I think he is a huge talent and I wouldn't be the least suprised if he's not scooped up by a bigger fish fairly soon. I'll enjoy him while I can. -His statement was respectful, polite and honest and if that deserves the kind of article that was written about him here, then I think it is Wayne Gretz that needs to look into the mirror, not Stauffer. Finally, I feel that this site (as I have stated before) is a fine read. But, look at the top writers in the industry. They don't report news when there is no news. They know very well that any stat related material they try to print will be rejected because it is fluff/filler/trip to Corsitown/trip to Granolabarand beertalkingtown: the masses do not want to read it. Now, you are going to argue that you are a die-hard and you need your fix everyday and this site provides it. What you actually need is an opportunity to make a daily comment so that you can be a part of a special (volunteered) group of people that have something in common (clique). The site needs to produce everyday to stay on top of the Oil blogs and rack up the daily visitor count so that it can keep Zender on as a revenue source (filler). This site does act like it is the Katz ass of the Oil blog world because it is the only one that doesn't link to other blogs. Have I included enough substance for you A.T.? have I backed my sh*t up? Like I said, I really have no serious beef with anyone. This article pissed me off, but so what? You can lead the pack of Hulkamaniacs and I'll be the much needed Randy 'macho man' Savage, because every circus needs a bad guy. Have a real good and honest look at what this site has become this summer and tell me the comment pages and some of the entries don't belong. Then again, it's you page so do what you like. Have a super weekend

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#185 bingofuel
August 28 2009, 11:07AM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

This site does act like it is the Katz ass of the Oil blog world because it is the only one that doesn’t link to other blogs.

Hi Neil,

I just wanted to point out that the quoted statement above is incorrect. We have an extensive blogroll, and we frequently link to other blogs in our stories.

Thanks for reading!

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#186 A.T. Husky
August 29 2009, 01:05AM
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Neil Sherwood wrote:

Now, you are going to argue that you are a die-hard and you need your fix everyday and this site provides it. What you actually need is an opportunity to make a daily comment so that you can be a part of a special (volunteered) group of people that have something in common (clique).

Interestingly enough, despite the fact that the masses don't want to read what is written here, they still tend to come every day. Strange, strange.

Also, I rarely comment unless I feel strongly about something. And that can be easily verified.

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