Slow clap for the Flames Organization

Wanye
November 05 2009 12:21PM

Just when this item seems to be getting a little old, more and more information is coming to light about the fateful decision to jump the Calgary Flames and their families to the front of the H1N1 vaccination line up. During a time when thousands of hard-working non-hockey-playing Albertans are waiting in line ups so long that many are expiring of natural causes before they reach the front of the line, the Flames flexed their collective clout and had a special vaccination clinic set up for the private use of the Team and their families.

This story broke earlier in the week when it was brought to our collective attention that the Calgary Flames had jedi mind tricked someone senior at Alberta Health Services into setting up a private clinic to administer flu vaccines to the Flames players, staff and families. This inspired many levels of rage amongst a good many people, who believed that Pro Athletes should be left to die at the hands of H1N1 infected zombie hordes that will be terrorizing major Canadian cities within days.

Once this initial story had made the rounds like a Californian Wildfire, more news comes today that the Flames have defended themselves publicly with one arm and with the other quietly went about having their AHL farm team skipped to the front of the line too.

“Tuesday evening, with the great Flames Flu Scandal still raging, members of the Calgary Flames farm club were quietly inoculated against H1N1 by their team physician.

This, despite the fact that British Columbia has been strictly rationing its flu vaccine from the outset. According to the B.C. health department, only pregnant women, children under five, those with serious chronic health conditions, and caregivers of infants under six months, are currently entitled to receive the vaccine.

Perry Kendall, B.C.'s chief health officer, says doctors in private practice can requisition vaccine for their patients, but only on the understanding that it be reserved for those high-risk cases. Nonetheless, the Heat's team doctor officially diagnosed most of the players as "high-risk" and vaccinated them accordingly.”

Oh man, is this ever rich.

If we actually believed that the swine flu was a threat to 99% of the population we might be more concerned about this. But instead we can totally see how this was a good idea for the medical staffers involved and the heretofore community oriented Calgary Flames.

Not only do NHL hockey players have a greater need to ward off disease than say – oh a 94 year old woman with chronic bronchitis – we can also see how protecting the Calgary Flames of tomorrow should be jobs number 1 and 2 respectively. If this wasn’t insulting enough to the father of four, wearing his Flames hat a little less proudly as he waits in a 6 hour line to have his toddlers immunized today, he can rest easy knowing that the families of both the NHL and AHL teams have been vaccinated as well.

Although

Well, who would want to live with the knowledge that Mrs. Robyn Regehr contracted the H1N1 virus whilst shopping for purses at Holt Renfrew? Would you want that hanging over your head? Would ya? Huh? What if Cory Sarich’s aunt’s cousin’s babysitter were to get sick too? How would that impact the penalty killing unit? Where do you want to draw the line for who to save and who to let go?

Never mind that most of the hockey wives we have met rarely, if ever, leave the confines of their rented Canadian apartment to do anything that interacts with the swarms of “non players and player families” that infest every inch of the city that they have to live in 6 months of the year. These disease ridden germ bags will totally cough on you as you wait in line for your daily Starbucks. Ew!

Look at this picture of people waiting in line for flu shots today:

Babies. Babies, their parents and more babies. How can a baby be expected to post a .600 record on the road? Will a 3 year old score you 20 goals and suck up 15 quality minutes of ice time on any given night? Not on your life brother. No, given the choice between saving the Flames and saving non-hockey playing children and the elderly, what is being called "the biggest black eye in franchise history" has been a great idea.

The other thing that is sad about this business

In addition to the firestorm outlined above, comes news that the Health Authoritados have found the person in charge of this fateful decision and have promptly fired his ass. Think that the players are calling that guy to send their sincere apologies? Yeah, we can totally see the Flames – or even better their families- banding together to assist the long serving civil servant who made the fateful decision to help his local hockey squadron. This poor bastard has just seen a 20 year career in Medical Administration go right out the window to give preferential treatment to a group of people that probably won’t even give it a second thought.

Man, do we ever hate the Flames.

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#51 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 01:58PM
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I guess according to Oiler higher ups they havent gotten vaccinated. But I swear a commentator on one of the games said we were offered it and a few players took it... maybe they were talking about regular flu shot but I dont think so.

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#52 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 01:58PM
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@Librarian Mike

Sadly, I fear you're right. As Wyshynski points out, this is ingrained in more professional sports than hockey, and obviously in the broader North American culture, too.

By the way, even though I'm a registered ON citizen and am logged in, I still can't find the edit button. It's probably right beside the "I'm an idiot" button.

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#53 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:00PM
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Craig Wark wrote:

Maybe everboby just gets in line regardless of who they are.

This is the first statement you've made that I can get on board with.

Last week in Manitoba the government was not screening to ensure that the low-risk categories were being turned away. Due to local media coverage touting the H1N1 as the next big people killer people panicked and started to line up. The clinics that were set up saw up to 5x the expected turnout for vaccinations and let them all through. Now faced with a looming shortage, the Winnipeg Regional Health Authority has started issuing statements that they have now begun screening and low-risk people are being turned away at the vaccination clinics.

I'm not sure if this is how things were handled last week in Alberta, but if it was our Manitoba Moose who skipped the line last week, it wouldn't have bothered me at all because anyone could have received it. If they skipped the line today, it would be a different story because they're receiving the shot while people are being turned away entirely.

As far as the story today goes, probably not a classy move this week to vaccinate the farm team while they're trying to distance themselves from last week's debacle.

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#54 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:03PM
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@Maggie the Monkey

Im all fine with everyone else being openly gay... but I wouldnt shower in the same room as an openly gay teammate. It should be Dont Ask Dont Tell until your career is over. Your private life can be private but if you come out of the closet in a christian nation be prepared for the boos and to be hated. I dont mind gays but I still believe its wrong and wouldnt want my kid idolizing an openly gay sports hero.

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#55 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:04PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:

Yeah, extreme homophobia from people seems to fall into the 'he doth protest too much' category more often than not. I look at people with those attitudes the same way as I look at people who have rotary phones: "Really? in the 21st Century?"

One thing I do know is that if a hockey player comes out of the closet, he's going to have to be a great player, because he will be completely ostracized otherwise.

It depends. Bear in mind current legislators grew up in a society where it was not acceptable to be gay. As morbid as it sounds, laws will change when they start to die off and are replaced by people who grew up in modern society where it is acceptable. Laws change with the evolution of thought as a general rule.

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#56 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:09PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

And once its completely acceptable? Whats next? Animals? Welcome to the Roman Empire, here's your decadence, leave your morals at the door.

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#57 Dan the Man
November 05 2009, 02:10PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Im all fine with everyone else being openly gay... but I wouldnt shower in the same room as an openly gay teammate. It should be Dont Ask Dont Tell until your career is over. Your private life can be private but if you come out of the closet in a christian nation be prepared for the boos and to be hated. I dont mind gays but I still believe its wrong and wouldnt want my kid idolizing an openly gay sports hero.

"It's wrong"? Wow....you understand that being gay isn't a choice that people make don't you? You don't have to support a gay lifestyle but to say it's wrong is just plain ignorant.

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#58 Librarian Mike
November 05 2009, 02:11PM
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@Maggie the Monkey

I still can't find the edit button. It's probably right beside the "I'm an idiot" button.

Good guess, but it should be next to the 'reply' button after you post.

By the way, welcome aboard.

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#59 Dan the Man
November 05 2009, 02:12PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

And once its completely acceptable? Whats next? Animals? Welcome to the Roman Empire, here's your decadence, leave your morals at the door.

Did you really just compare gays to animals? What is wrong with you?

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#60 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:12PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

And once its completely acceptable? Whats next? Animals? Welcome to the Roman Empire, here's your decadence, leave your morals at the door.

I'm not actually offering my opinion for or against homosexuality. I'm just pointing out the fact that Western society's attitude towards the topic has been trending towards acceptance. When the current generation of young people take the place of the current generation of legislators, the attitude of acceptance will be reflected in the laws that get passed. I don't think that's an unreasonable assumption.

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#61 Librarian Mike
November 05 2009, 02:13PM
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@Hemmertime

Consenting adults, dude.

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#62 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:14PM
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@Dan the Man

No, I compared being attracted to a man to being attracted to a goat. The Goat-F*cker is being ostracized! (willing goat)

And as I said, Gay people fine by me, should have the right to wed. We should not hamper their rights as humans. But unless they building 2 changing rooms in the NHL locker rooms I wouldnt accept a gay teammate. And I believe it is still morally wrong, not religiously wrong. Its unnatural and just as good as f*cking a dog in my eyes.

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#63 Librarian Mike
November 05 2009, 02:16PM
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*waits for the inevitable comparision between gays and pedophiles...any second now...*

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#64 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 02:17PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Im all fine with everyone else being openly gay... but I wouldnt shower in the same room as an openly gay teammate. It should be Dont Ask Dont Tell until your career is over. Your private life can be private but if you come out of the closet in a christian nation be prepared for the boos and to be hated. I dont mind gays but I still believe its wrong and wouldnt want my kid idolizing an openly gay sports hero.

Yours is, in many ways, the sort of response I fear. I respect both your opinion and your honest expression of it, but it's sad to me that a person who is gay would have to hide this fundamental aspect of their identity just to partake in another passion, in this case hockey. Surely they don't have to be mutually exclusive? Besides, I'm a straight man with several gay friends and while I can't recall showering in a public place with any of them, it would not bother me to do so.

Just to pick a superstar with a pretty clean image, would anybody who played with Mario Lemieux have been a good teammate if he demanded that Mario shower in a different area if he'd been gay? It seems to me that rather than being an obstacle, a gay teammate could be a great thing for a team to rally around, but then I'm a bit of a hopeless optimist with these things.

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#65 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:18PM
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And I have gay friends, so its cool... http://ourfounder.typepad.com/leblog/WindowsLiveWriter/BourdainsDisdain_8A86/image%7B0%7D%5B5%5D_1.png

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#66 jeanshorts
November 05 2009, 02:18PM
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@Hemmertime

I'm not seeing the logic in being afraid of having your kid look up to someone who is gay. So because his hero is gay means your kid is going to be gay?

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#67 Librarian Mike
November 05 2009, 02:19PM
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Substitute 'gay' for 'black' and you have comments people made in the 1940s in baseball.

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#68 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 02:20PM
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@Maggie the Monkey

Nice. I found the edit button and my opposable digits at the same time.

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#69 Dan the Man
November 05 2009, 02:21PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

No, I compared being attracted to a man to being attracted to a goat. The Goat-F*cker is being ostracized! (willing goat)

And as I said, Gay people fine by me, should have the right to wed. We should not hamper their rights as humans. But unless they building 2 changing rooms in the NHL locker rooms I wouldnt accept a gay teammate. And I believe it is still morally wrong, not religiously wrong. Its unnatural and just as good as f*cking a dog in my eyes.

I bet you could find an anti-gay/hate site to post on if you looked.

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#70 bingofuel
November 05 2009, 02:23PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

No, I compared being attracted to a man to being attracted to a goat. The Goat-F*cker is being ostracized! (willing goat)

And as I said, Gay people fine by me, should have the right to wed. We should not hamper their rights as humans. But unless they building 2 changing rooms in the NHL locker rooms I wouldnt accept a gay teammate. And I believe it is still morally wrong, not religiously wrong. Its unnatural and just as good as f*cking a dog in my eyes.

Actually, homosexual behaviour is very natural, and occurs in most social animal species, include primates and birds.

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#71 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:23PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

No, I compared being attracted to a man to being attracted to a goat. The Goat-F*cker is being ostracized! (willing goat)

And as I said, Gay people fine by me, should have the right to wed. We should not hamper their rights as humans. But unless they building 2 changing rooms in the NHL locker rooms I wouldnt accept a gay teammate. And I believe it is still morally wrong, not religiously wrong. Its unnatural and just as good as f*cking a dog in my eyes.

Did you know that the term 'unnatural' comes from the attitude that Truth (note the capital 'T') can be found by observing nature?

Imagine how embarrassed gay-bashers will be when they realize that you can observe homosexuality in nature.

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#72 RobertF
November 05 2009, 02:26PM
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Edmonton, whining about Calgary as per usual. Maybe if you guys had elected some more NDP candidates in the last Federal Election, none of this would have happened! I don't think one was enough! I am feeling a Marxist revolution in the next few days! Collect the Proletariat along Jasper Avenue and demand justice!

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#73 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:27PM
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Dan the Man wrote:

I bet you could find an anti-gay/hate site to post on if you looked.

People were talking opinions and their outlooks. Slandering a person who believes being gay is morally wrong is just as bad as the person who slanders homosexuals. I believe they should have all the rights as regular people, I just view the "gay gene" as a birth defect and it shouldnt be fully accepted. The purpose of life is pro-creation - so anything that stops said procreation (low sperm count, gay) is a defect to me.

If I was towel boy for the girls swim team I wouldnt be allowed to shower with them, no matter how much I want to - so homosexuals should have their own washrooms. I realize that sounds like blacks in the 50s but its my opinion. Its a thought out opinion thats not based on "Kill all fags". Thanks though.

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#74 Librarian Mike
November 05 2009, 02:30PM
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RobertF wrote:

Edmonton, whining about Calgary as per usual. Maybe if you guys had elected some more NDP candidates in the last Federal Election, none of this would have happened! I don't think one was enough! I am feeling a Marxist revolution in the next few days! Collect the Proletariat along Jasper Avenue and demand justice!

Hey, I've been absolutely clear that if it was the Oilers who jumped the queue that I would be equally if not more disgusted by them.

I don't care which team is doing that. In my mind it is wrong. Period.

P.S. Isn't it an interesting coincidence that one troll gets kicked to the curb and another appears 15 minutes later...

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#75 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 02:32PM
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@Hemmertime

I guess it's the "Dont Ask Dont Tell" bit that is most troublesome. This is essentially asking any gay men (or women) to hide an important part of who they are in order to be accepted - ie telling them to stay in the closet.

The focus of the articles that I cited isn't about whether or not gays should be better accepted in professional sports, but rather that the use of offensive gay slang should be quickly weaned out. It's obvious that calling someone a fag should be penalized as if it were a racial slur, but this should also extend to implied terms like cocksucker. Some will think I'm taking this to too much of an extreme, but even invented words with derogatory implications like "Flamers" rubs me the wrong way. (Although I loathe the Flames as much as any Oilers fan, trust me.)

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#76 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 02:34PM
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Librarian Mike wrote:
I still can't find the edit button. It's probably right beside the "I'm an idiot" button.

Good guess, but it should be next to the 'reply' button after you post.

By the way, welcome aboard.

Thanks for the welcome, by the way. I've been around for quite a while but don't tend to post very often. The frequency of my posts has a direct correspondence to academic deadlines, which I'm swimming in at the moment.

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#77 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:35PM
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@Hemmertime

I'm trying to respect your right to oppose homosexuality, but you make it difficult when you discount homosexuality as decadence. If the argument is that semenal fluid should not be wasted, you should be just as vigilant against birth control, chastity (namely among the clergy), and groups that oppose sex before marriage. All of these things interfere with the 'natural' programming you're arguing is the meaning of life.

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#78 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 02:38PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

Shouldn't he be opposed to underwear, too? ;)

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#79 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:39PM
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@Maggie the Monkey

Then ALL insults would have to be removed, along with baiting players by insinuating sex with their wives (loved that STL player that did it, cracked me up). Dont ask Dont tell is until the NHL has a policy working around gay people that is approved by the NHLPA it is 100x better for everyone involved. Also, good luck getting a sponsorship deal after so it will hurt the player too. Also, my opinion on the matter is probably shared by at least 20% of the NHL players I am sure. If the NHLPA votes they dont mind gays in their showers, fine, have at it. But 1 person coming out of the closet will just cause problems.

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#80 jeanshorts
November 05 2009, 02:43PM
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Maggie the Monkey wrote:

I guess it's the "Dont Ask Dont Tell" bit that is most troublesome. This is essentially asking any gay men (or women) to hide an important part of who they are in order to be accepted - ie telling them to stay in the closet.

The focus of the articles that I cited isn't about whether or not gays should be better accepted in professional sports, but rather that the use of offensive gay slang should be quickly weaned out. It's obvious that calling someone a fag should be penalized as if it were a racial slur, but this should also extend to implied terms like cocksucker. Some will think I'm taking this to too much of an extreme, but even invented words with derogatory implications like "Flamers" rubs me the wrong way. (Although I loathe the Flames as much as any Oilers fan, trust me.)

Man, I'm sorry I agreed with more or less what you were saying up until this point. Why people get so worked up when another person uses a word that they deem "offensive" even though they have absolutely nothing to do with what is being said is beyond me. Hockey players use the word bitch a lot. Should women's rights groups be knocking down the NHL's front doors and demanding the NHL be shut down, just because the word bitch can sometimes be used as a slur against women? No that's ridiculous. They're not using it in that context to degrade a woman.

Why should a gay man who gives blowjobs be insulted by the word cocksucker? That's like someone coming up to me and calling me a vaginaeater and me being taken aback by it. Why would I? Absolutely I'm a vaginaeater. Why be ashamed of it?

I think I'm rambling here and these comments have gone hilarious off the rails. Like I said I just don't understand why people get so offended by things that have absolutely nothing to do with them.

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#81 Dan the Man
November 05 2009, 02:45PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

People were talking opinions and their outlooks. Slandering a person who believes being gay is morally wrong is just as bad as the person who slanders homosexuals. I believe they should have all the rights as regular people, I just view the "gay gene" as a birth defect and it shouldnt be fully accepted. The purpose of life is pro-creation - so anything that stops said procreation (low sperm count, gay) is a defect to me.

If I was towel boy for the girls swim team I wouldnt be allowed to shower with them, no matter how much I want to - so homosexuals should have their own washrooms. I realize that sounds like blacks in the 50s but its my opinion. Its a thought out opinion thats not based on "Kill all fags". Thanks though.

I'm not sure if you understand what slander is. Asking a person who is clearly anti-gay to post on an anti-gay website instead of this one isn't slander. If I called you a goat f@$ker that could be considered slander.

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#82 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:46PM
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Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things wrote:

I'm trying to respect your right to oppose homosexuality, but you make it difficult when you discount homosexuality as decadence. If the argument is that semenal fluid should not be wasted, you should be just as vigilant against birth control, chastity (namely among the clergy), and groups that oppose sex before marriage. All of these things interfere with the 'natural' programming you're arguing is the meaning of life.

No, those are all conscious decisions. Being gay isnt a choice. They were born that way.

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#83 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:48PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

No, those are all conscious decisions. Being gay isnt a choice. They were born that way.

I was born a Catholic. ;)

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#84 Librarian Mike
November 05 2009, 02:48PM
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@jeanshorts

It goes back to the homophobic/homoerotic elements in society. Athletes eat together, travel and sleep together, shower together, hug, slap each others' asses, and basically do everything couples do EXCEPT have sex.

This realization leads to anxiety and externalization which manifests itself as hatred and violence.

It always makes me laugh to see moustached cops drive by in their 'cruisers'. So oblivious.

Anyway Jeanshorts, I guess the real issue here is that....*loses train of thought*

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#85 jeanshorts
November 05 2009, 02:50PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

No, those are all conscious decisions. Being gay isnt a choice. They were born that way.

*head explodes*

But.....You said it was unnatural like 20 minutes ago. How does being born that way make it unnatural????????? One or the other man. One or the other.

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#86 dragon
November 05 2009, 02:51PM
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@Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things

Re your opinion that society is trending towards acceptance. I tend to believe your opinion has support in daily evidence (see current Bountiful, BC case). Unfortunately I don't believe society as a whole, has reached the moral level required in order to be able to draw a firm line between individual freedoms (of the many natures) and benefits to society... Hence the debate will keep on going.

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#87 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:51PM
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@Dan the Man

Ah ya, you werent slandering me, but thats like asking a person who is pro-gay to go post their opinions elsewhere too. So...

I am sure you can find a pro-gay site to post on if you looked.

Better? Me saying your opinion isnt welcome here is great eh? Pfft.

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#88 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 02:54PM
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@jeanshorts

Yeah, I take things to idealistic extremes all too often, but won't apologize for it. My comments are not meant as suggestions that the league (or anybody else) should be forced to live by, they're just how I see things.

And I see it that way because I know that the term cocksucker is offensive to gay men when it is used in a derogatory way. When it's used as an offensive term, it's directly implied that there's something wrong with doing it. As far as I know, nobody's ever used the term vagina-eater this way, which is why you wouldn't find it to be insulting.

(As for the term bitch, I use it from time to time with the weak excuse that it's technically calling somebody a dog - a whiny female dog. I'm not sure how many women's rights groups would bother to take on this battle anyway.)

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#89 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:54PM
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jeanshorts wrote:

*head explodes*

But.....You said it was unnatural like 20 minutes ago. How does being born that way make it unnatural????????? One or the other man. One or the other.

Its unnatural because it is a birth defect, the same way a club foot or super strength would be unnatural. They are born that way so I don't hold it against them, I wont NOT be a friend with someone because they are gay, they never had a choice. But its a defect.

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#90 BarryS
November 05 2009, 02:56PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

I guess according to Oiler higher ups they havent gotten vaccinated. But I swear a commentator on one of the games said we were offered it and a few players took it... maybe they were talking about regular flu shot but I dont think so.

I think that was the regular flu shot, the one made up of last years strains.

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#91 dragon
November 05 2009, 02:57PM
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Hemmertime wrote:

Its unnatural because it is a birth defect, the same way a club foot or super strength would be unnatural. They are born that way so I don't hold it against them, I wont NOT be a friend with someone because they are gay, they never had a choice. But its a defect.

who gets to decide what is 'defect'?

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#92 Maggie the Monkey
November 05 2009, 02:58PM
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@Hemmertime

I wonder if being a Flames fan could be considered a birth defect. I mean, it's not like they chose to be born there or raised in that corrupt environment...

(And yes, this is a satirical comment: intended to be both funny and somewhat serious.)

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#93 Dan the Man
November 05 2009, 02:58PM
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@Hemmertime

Feel free to post your opinions here as long as they aren't completely ignorant.

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#94 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 02:58PM
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@Maggie the Monkey

Vagina-Eater? You guys never heard of Carpet-Muncher? it already is a term for what you are implying instead of making a new one up... and was used derogatorily in the past to women. Now its seen as a great quality =)

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#95 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:58PM
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dragon wrote:

who gets to decide what is 'defect'?

There's a committee, I think. They also decide which plants are classified as weeds and which are flowers.

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#96 smiliegirl15
November 05 2009, 02:59PM
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Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he lusts after every man he sees. Do you guys want every girl that crosses your path or think she's hot after you just because you're a guy?

Edit - realizes what a silly question that was when it comes to humans with Y chromosomes and shakes head. Never mind

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#97 Maggie the Monkey
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@Maggie the Monkey

Man I love this edit button thing. The glory of correcting typos and bad grammar!!

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#98 jeanshorts
November 05 2009, 02:59PM
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@Librarian Mike

Yeah I understand that in order to get rid of the underlying hatred and fear and what not that in our society you have to cut it off at the knees, which I guess means trying to get rid of the derogatory words. But at the end of the day the meaning of a word is what you make of it. The word Faggot has gone through 6 or 7 different definitions since the 16th century. It started out as a word for an old, useless woman, then it was used for poor people who collected sticks, then it was used as a word to describe the actual bundle of sticks, and so on and so forth until the 1900's when it became a degratory term for a gay person. I can't wait to see what form the word takes on next!

Anyway what were we talking about? The Flames sucking at life?

*turns around to leave the room and smashes his face against the wall, knocking him unconscious*

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#99 Oil Kings 'n' Pretty Things
November 05 2009, 02:59PM
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smiliegirl15 wrote:

Just because someone is gay doesn't mean he lusts after every man he sees. Do you guys want every girl that crosses your path or think she's hot after you just because you're a guy?

Edit - realizes what a silly question that was when it comes to humans with Y chromosomes and shakes head. Never mind

Yes.

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#100 Hemmertime
November 05 2009, 03:00PM
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dragon wrote:

who gets to decide what is 'defect'?

Everyone. You do, I do. Its called opinion, which is a word Ive typed many times today heh.

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